Capitalism? Is that what you call this?

Not long ago, Twitter, Facebook, and some other companies started to censor speech they were afraid of. The argument was and I assume still is, that these are private companies and can do what they wish. If you don't like it, don't use them. make your own "twitter". Well, it seems that was done, and now THAT is being shut down. So I have to ask again, is this capitalism, or something completely different?

www.cnn.com...

(CNN Business)Parler, the alternative social media platform favored by conservatives, now finds itself virtually homeless on the internet as Amazon (AMZN), Apple (AAPL) and Google (GOOGL) have all booted it from their platforms in a span of a little more than 24 hours.

At some point, your empty words will ring hollow even to the incredibly stupid ones. And then you may understand what you have done.

a reply to: network dude

I call it corporatism.

Not much you can do other than resort to violence at this point. I’m not that guy, but I’ll gladly be on the side being censored rather than doing or cheering on the censoring. Their time will come.

originally posted by: network dude
Not long ago, Twitter, Facebook, and some other companies started to censor speech they were afraid of. The argument was and I assume still is, that these are private companies and can do what they wish. If you don't like it, don't use them. make your own "twitter". Well, it seems that was done, and now THAT is being shut down. So I have to ask again, is this capitalism, or something completely different?

www.cnn.com...

(CNN Business)Parler, the alternative social media platform favored by conservatives, now finds itself virtually homeless on the internet as Amazon (AMZN), Apple (AAPL) and Google (GOOGL) have all booted it from their platforms in a span of a little more than 24 hours.

At some point, your empty words will ring hollow even to the incredibly stupid ones. And then you may understand what you have done.

Strangely some people on the left have noticed this way back when these companies started growing so big that they weren't just leaders of their industry they were the only name in their industry...is its called unfettered capitalism. But God knows we say something about it and we get called communist or socialist.

originally posted by: FauxMulder
a reply to: network dude

I call it corporatism.

Oh my, that looks spot on.

originally posted by: FauxMulder
a reply to: network dude

I call it corporatism.

Exactly. Which is just capitalism winning. The more you deregulate, the more you get corporatism. Gotta love the side that pushes this system with extreme vigor for decades then is like... 'hey, wait a minute. we want to take it all back.'

originally posted by: Middleoftheroad
Not much you can do other than resort to violence at this point. I’m not that guy, but I’ll gladly be on the side being censored rather than doing or cheering on the censoring. Their time will come.

We aren't supposed to be the violent ones. And I sincerely hope it never comes to this. Democrats are true LARPers in this game. I hope nobody entices the vets with training, ambition, patriotism, an oath to protect against ALL enemies foreign and DOMESTIC, and the tools to do great harm, into becoming violent against what they perceive as a threat to the constitution.

The agitators who drive the MSM need to regroup and rethink their plan. This current doubling down on stupid won't go well if left unchecked.

We as a nation don't need any of this.

a reply to: okrian

Bingo.


Serious question, what's stopping someone from hosting a site on their own privately owned servers?

originally posted by: okrian

originally posted by: FauxMulder
a reply to: network dude

I call it corporatism.

Exactly. Which is just capitalism winning. The more you deregulate, the more you get corporatism. Gotta love the side that pushes this system with extreme vigor for decades then is like... 'hey, wait a minute. we want to take it all back.'

Unfortunately for the GOP now that the big money had made their way to the Democratic Party they aren't needed anymore thus the ground shifting of the political muscle of big corporations has them confused. The GOP was applauding these guys not too long ago and now they have left you out in the cold and worst yet no more money coming the GOP way it seems. Big corporations played the GOP for fools big time.

originally posted by: wheresthebody
a reply to: okrian

Bingo.


Serious question, what's stopping someone from hosting a site on their own privately owned servers?

where would that happen in today's google based society? I'd also like a serious answer to that. I hope you find one and post it here.

a reply to: wheresthebody
Money. All the money needed to buy infrastructure, hire personnel, maintain, sustain and upgrade. Needs boatload of money and if people don't want to lend you because they deemed as a risk then you have very few options if any.

originally posted by: Bunch
....its called unfettered capitalism. But God knows we say something about it and we get called communist or socialist.

These companies received billions in subsidies and litigation protection....THAT is the definition of socialism!

Really, get that right.

Capitalism had nothing to do with it.

The biggest problem is that these ISP's have never been classified as common carriers.

originally posted by: wheresthebody
a reply to: okrian

Bingo.


Serious question, what's stopping someone from hosting a site on their own privately owned servers?

I asked this on another post............crickets.

I'll tell you the answer, money, smarts, foresight..
Tech has always been championed by the left. Maybe those on the right have some reflecting to do.

a reply to: network dude


Is the movement so weak that it is that dependent on google?

originally posted by: Bunch

originally posted by: network dude
Not long ago, Twitter, Facebook, and some other companies started to censor speech they were afraid of. The argument was and I assume still is, that these are private companies and can do what they wish. If you don't like it, don't use them. make your own "twitter". Well, it seems that was done, and now THAT is being shut down. So I have to ask again, is this capitalism, or something completely different?

www.cnn.com...

(CNN Business)Parler, the alternative social media platform favored by conservatives, now finds itself virtually homeless on the internet as Amazon (AMZN), Apple (AAPL) and Google (GOOGL) have all booted it from their platforms in a span of a little more than 24 hours.

At some point, your empty words will ring hollow even to the incredibly stupid ones. And then you may understand what you have done.

Strangely some people on the left have noticed this way back when these companies started growing so big that they weren't just leaders of their industry they were the only name in their industry...is its called unfettered capitalism. But God knows we say something about it and we get called communist or socialist.

No, that is collusion. Companies colluding to take down a competitor.

Unfettered capitalism would mean that there would be few barriers to entry, particularly from a regulatory standpoint, so that any competitor can enter a market.

AWS shut down Parler because they realized even if it isn't on the Apple store, people can still get it. I am sure they will find a new host but then you'll find big tech seeking other ways to shut them down.

Tihs tactic isn't anything new though. Recall Democrats were trying to do this with banks in order to put pressure on gun manufacturers / stores. Making it hard for them to get financial services.

Democrats Seek to Restrict Gun Rights with Financial Services

a reply to: network dude

originally posted by: wheresthebody
a reply to: okrian

Bingo.


Serious question, what's stopping someone from hosting a site on their own privately owned servers?

I don't have an iPhone or other I still keep a land line so I may be wrong but from what I am hearing the problem is reaching people on their phones by app. No one will allow the apps to be carried.

a reply to: JAGStorm
Meh..it might be a the worker level but Peter Thiel is a big Trump supporter, Elon Musk I think is a shy Trump supporter and ole Marky Mark as much as people of the right hates him here I think he is a quite MAGA as well.

a reply to: network dude

Is it capitalism? Yes. Not the capitalism of the past but rather the demented inbred child of capitalism that was allowed to grow in the womb of an economic system that prospered only because of the base it used in the wake of WW2,

That base was the United States. Dominant after that war, the only industrial nation not bombed to smithereens. An intact delivery system ready to ship product to the whole world. Work galore as US workers produced good for all around the world.

Resources from around the world because it was US corporations that swooped in and took control of those resources.

There were warnings about what capitalism could grow into but they were ignored by those mesmerized by the wealth it brought them. Now, we got what we got, Capitalism's bastard child.