President Trump's Speech Did NOT Incite the Violence in Wash D.C. This Week.

a reply to: carewemust

Oh grow up you cant tell people their democracy is under attack and tell them they are fighting for their kids futures and how they were cheated and not expect violence. Ye s many would have heard his speech and said my god we have to defend democracy for the sake of our children and grandchildren. We need to get in there and let congressman know we are mad. Any idiot even Trump would know sending people down pensylvania avenue after his rally was a bad idea. You dont gaslight people and set them loose it gurantees crazy things will happen.

Thats why i blame that womans death on Trump as well. She goes to his rally he talks about democracy being stolen than her president tells her to go to capitol hill and be heard. I will put it this way if he couldnt figure out there was going to be violence than hes dumber than i thought.

a reply to: dragonridr

Why did he not lead the march instead of getting in his armoured SUV and hunkering down in the White House?

Because he knew damn well it was all going to kick off.

"The attack on the Capitol last Wednesday was not a spontaneous eruption of violence. It was the culmination of a campaign waged by the president of the United States and his allies in Congress and the right wing media to overturn the results of a free and fair election that began even before the ballots began to be counted on Election Day.

That campaign involved a barrage of lies about the integrity of the voting process from the president, his allies and other elected Republicans.

Mr. Trump began undermining November's election before the first vote was cast.

Then, after it was clear Mr. Biden was the victor, and after weeks of public and private attempts to get states to change their vote totals and deliever him a second term, the president encouraged his supporters to converge on Washington on Jan. 6.:

"Be there, will be wild!' he tweeted

Mr. Trump took the stage and gave perhaps the most un-American speech ever uttered by a president.

'We will not take it anymore,' Mr. Trump told the crowd. 'We will stop the steal.'

Mr. Trump further said on his Jan. 6 speach:

'We're going to walk down, and I'll be there with you, we're going to walk down,' Mr. Trump said, 'to the Capitol, and we're going to cheer on our brave senators and congressmen and -women, and we're probably not going to be cheering so much for some of them.' He continued: 'Because you'll never take back our country with weakness. You have to show strength, and you have to be strong. We have to demand that Congress do the right thing and only count the electors who have been lawfully slated, lawfully slated.'

'We fight. We fight like hell,' the president said. 'If you don't fight like hell, you're not going to have a country anymore.

With that, the crowd struck off and some of the president's loyalists stormed the capitol.

Mr. Trump may not have called directly for this behavior, but there is no question that he encouraged it and then refused for hours to condemn it, even as the whole world watched in horror. When he finally asked for rioters to stop and go home, he continued to claim the election had been stolen."

quoted excerpts: NYT's - Editorial - "Impeach Mr. Trump Again" - Tuesday, January 12, 2021

source:

www.nytimes.com...

a reply to: Erno86

I hope you are wearing an asbestos jock strap.....

a reply to: Erno86

Mr. Trump may not have called directly for this behavior, but there is no question that he encouraged it and then refused for hours to condemn it, even as the whole world watched in horror.

--from your NYT piece posted above

But he did. He DID call for it directly. And then he sat and watched it and ignored urgent calls from GOP legislators to help. And still did nothing.

Pathetic Pathological.
Seditious.
Treasonous.

He did call for it.

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: RazorV66

Muslim 'n Mexican hoards are a comin' to getcha!

Communists too, probly.

Communists and Socialists and Marxists, oh my!

I'll expand on this later, in a separate thread, unless someone else starts it first.

President Trump did NOT commit any crime. In order to be "convicted" by the Senate, you have to have committed a criminal act related to "Inciting and Insurrection". Veering off into RUSSIA or any of the other Trump-hater favorites isn't allowed, unless one of those incited insurrection, and can be proven to have done so.

-cwm

originally posted by: carewemust
Saturday, January 9, 2021

With Joe Biden being sworn in as an (illegitimate) U.S. President on January 20th, Democrats are determined to give President Trump a kick in the butt, on his way out the door.

Democrats, a few Republicans, and the Mainstream Media are urging that President Trump be Impeached ASAP, because he "incited violence" on January 6th, when Trump supporters left a rally, walked into the U.S. Capitol Building, and trashed several offices inside.

If you look at the Transcript of his speech, there is no section where President Trump asked supporters to go to the Capitol building and cause damage or injury. Here are the key excerpts:

We’re going walk down to the Capitol, and we’re going to cheer on our brave senators, and congressmen and women.

We have come to demand that Congress do the right thing and only count the electors who have been lawfully slated, lawfully slated.

I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard.

Full Transcript: www.rev.com...

If you notice, the evil people who say President Trump incited a riot, or incited violence, never point to, or play sections of his speech where he called for violence.

BECAUSE THERE AREN'T ANY.

Keep that in mind when nasty Nancy Pelosi unveils articles of Impeachment this coming Monday. She wants President Trump to go down in history as the only President impeached by the U.S. House, twice in one term.

-CareWeMust

a reply to: carewemust

The senate has no power to censure a civilian. In a couple of dsays he will be a former president the constitution doesnt give congress any powers over a former president. In other words they would have to find him guilty before he leaves office. And truth that would never happen the last one took months.

a reply to: carewemust

a reply to: andy06shake
Those are cute meme's...I prefer REAL LIFE TRUTH, however.

For instance...

Here is a video clip of an ANTIFA-BLM "cell" preparing in a hotel suite to infiltrate Trump supporters, and provoke a riot, on Wednesday, January 6th.

Video Clip: twitter.com...

No wonder Nancy Pelosi was in such a hurry to Impeach President Trump. SHE KNEW that the President did not "Incite an Insurrection" as she claimed!

a reply to: carewemust

Like for instance the ""real life truth"" that Trumps now been impeached twice.

I think we have seen enough evidence from both Trump and his MAGA minions to know who was responsible for the attack on your capitol.

Half of them have now been apprehended or turned themselves in for a start.

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: andy06shake
Those are cute meme's...I prefer REAL LIFE TRUTH, however.

Coming from you that is HILARIOUS!!! Real-life??? You couldn't tell the difference between real life and fantasy if someone handed you a map.

At the point that the Capitol was breached and over run...

At the point that rioters had overcome the Capitol police and security...

At the point that the Congress assembled there that day to certify the votes were evacuated and led to safe shelter...

The potus remained in his TV room..watching the unlawful attack on the seat of government.

Trump was not evacuated..
Trump was not in his bunker..
He was munching popcorn and watching people die.
Why didn't anyone remove the Commander in Chief ?
Because there was no present danger from his own band of insurgents.

I was not fully convinced at first that he was guilty of incitement at first.
Now I am.
It was orchestrated and planned.
His minions may have allowed him a degree of plausible deniability.
But he knew what was going to happen.

Planned, paid for, attempted coup.
Trump overplayed his hand this time.

If you have any respect for the US constitution and law that is what you would see.

a reply to: cosmickat

I agree with you at first I wasn't convinced either but as I learned more it's obvious he wanted trouble. He even went into hiding making Pence have to approve calling out the national guard. That should have been him but conveniently he became unavailable.

He knew he started it I don't think he thought anyone would be killed but he started it. You cant tell people they are going to lose their way of life and the country is at stake without getting a huge emotional response. He wanted people to make noise hoping that would give the congressman backbones to support him. Didn't occur to him that he lit a powder keg.