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The Protestors Are NOT Trump Supporters, But are Antifa/BLM members in Disguise.

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posted on Jan, 12 2021 @ 05:42 PM
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originally posted by: Astyanax
a reply to: xuenchen


Kool trick with... the gorilla article

Cool trick making a truthful person out to be a liar.

Link to another report, one of several easily available.

👆😃👆


Oops! That page can’t be found.



posted on Jan, 12 2021 @ 05:48 PM
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originally posted by: ElectricUniverse
a reply to: valiant
I don't love to spread disinfo...


Your post on Nazi's being Socialists proves otherwise!



posted on Jan, 12 2021 @ 05:50 PM
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National Socialist Party

The nazis were socialists

Or does the name mean nothing?

I guess that could be true because aNtifa is most definitely a 100% ultra fascist organisation, regardless of their intentionally fake label

Nobody even denies that
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posted on Jan, 12 2021 @ 05:56 PM
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a reply to: Breakthestreak

Let Michael Ray fill you in on on Britannica


Were the Nazis Socialists?

Were the Nazis socialists? No, not in any meaningful way, and certainly not after 1934. But to address this canard fully, one must begin with the birth of the party.


It was all about propaganda and marketing.



posted on Jan, 12 2021 @ 06:09 PM
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posted on Jan, 12 2021 @ 06:18 PM
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a reply to: djz3ro

I have tried, a few times, to refer posters on here.. as to how the Nazi party took their name.
They either don't get it...or just pretend they don't.
They seem to view a socialist as a fascist and vice versa. Nutz eh?
And as socialist is in the name...even though Hitler just co-opted it to suit the political flavour of the time, they just can't absorb the facts.

Fascism..Socialism..Communism.they don't get the nuances.
It's all reds under the beds to them.



posted on Jan, 12 2021 @ 06:27 PM
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a reply to: Breakthestreak

Question: do you honestly believe that or do you just post it to get some social credibility and confirmation bias on the internet?

love Antifa, hate Antifa, agree with them or not, they are not a *fascist organization* that doesn't even make sense in reality



posted on Jan, 12 2021 @ 06:27 PM
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a reply to: cosmickat

Yes, Thank you!



posted on Jan, 12 2021 @ 08:07 PM
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originally posted by: cosmickat
a reply to: djz3ro

Fascism..Socialism..Communism.they don't get the nuances.
It's all reds under the beds to them.



You speak of nuance.
But in reality you're just projecting.
It's simple to understand for anyone who knows history.

The goal of socialism is communism.

Vladimir Lenin



posted on Jan, 12 2021 @ 08:22 PM
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a reply to: JAY1980

Not projecting, no.
But you are right to point out, I did use the wrong language.
I should have said differences, as they are different ideologies.

Not all socialists are Leninists.

In the 21st century, Socialism is a very different concept. It is possible to adopt a democratic socialist ideology without tipping over into communism.



posted on Jan, 12 2021 @ 10:47 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen

I just tried the link. It works perfectly.



posted on Jan, 13 2021 @ 03:03 AM
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a reply to: JAY1980

yes, true, the idea of socialism was a step towards communism, then socialism would dissolve into communism

That still requires nuance because not every communist is a Leninist, Lenin had his own theory and ideology based on Marxism and communism, but there have many different communist theorizers



posted on Jan, 13 2021 @ 03:46 AM
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a reply to: JAY1980

What were the two main parties that went against Hitler’s party in the last legitimate election?

I’ll give you a hint..

One was influenced by Leninism and Stalinism, the other Marxism.


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posted on Jan, 13 2021 @ 10:15 PM
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a reply to: cosmickat

So again, ignoring the policies implemented by the nazis while continuing to claim "they are not socialists..." Really?... You only deny reality and make your own.


National Socialist Program
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23. We demand legal opposition to known lies and their promulgation through the press.
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en.wikipedia.org...

i wonder whom else has been using the claim of "fake news" to demonetize CONSERVATIVE and INDEPENDENT voices?...
I wonder whom has set out to suppress speech of CONSERVATIVES and INDEPENDENTS because we disagree with your political opinion?...

I wonder whom demands for "nationalization of all infrastructure, like the nazis did...
I wonder whom demands for "a strong central power"?...
I wonder whom demands for sharing, or "re-distributing" wealth meanwhile abolishing "unearned income"?...



posted on Jan, 13 2021 @ 10:25 PM
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originally posted by: Chadwickus
a reply to: JAY1980

What were the two main parties that went against Hitler’s party in the last legitimate election?

I’ll give you a hint..

One was influenced by Leninism and Stalinism, the other Marxism.



What were the "democratic socialists" demanding from the government before hitler took control?... SOCIALISM...

Ironic how people like you continue to ignore the FACT that there are different branches of socialism, but a branch of socialism National Socialism is...

Whom was against Stalin whom wanted National Socialism/Communism?... Lenin, Trotsky and others whom wanted International Socialism/Communism...

Whom was against the castro brothers' allowing communists to enter the "socialist revolution"?... Other socialists...

Heck, your pal hitler himself attempted to unite international socialists with his national socialists, when they refused he knew they were a threat, and like other socialists & communists have done in the past he killed those whom posed a threat, including hundreds of SS officers, aka nazi officers...


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After all, that’s exactly why we call ourselves National Socialists! We want to start by implementing socialism in our nation among our Volk! It is not until the individual nations are socialist that they can address themselves to international socialism.

Adolf Hitler as quoted by Otto Wagener in Hitler—Memoirs of a Confidant, editor, Henry Ashby Turner, Jr., Yale University Press (1985) p. 288

What the world did not deem possible the German people have achieved…. It is already war history how the German Armies defeated the legions of capitalism and plutocracy. After forty-five days this campaign in the West was equally and emphatically terminated.

“Adolf Hitler’s Order of the Day Calling for Invasion of Yugoslavia and Greece,” Berlin, (April 6, 1941), New York Times, April 7, 1941

To put it quite clearly: we have an economic programme. Point No. 13 in that programme demands the nationalisation of all public companies, in other words socialisation, or what is known here as socialism. … the basic principle of my Party’s economic programme should be made perfectly clear and that is the principle of authority… the good of the community takes priority over that of the individual. But the State should retain control; every owner should feel himself to be an agent of the State; it is his duty not to misuse his possessions to the detriment of the State or the interests of his fellow countrymen. That is the overriding point. The Third Reich will always retain the right to control property owners. If you say that the bourgeoisie is tearing its hair over the question of private property, that does not affect me in the least. Does the bourgeoisie expect some consideration from me?… Today’s bourgeoisie is rotten to the core; it has no ideals any more; all it wants to do is earn money and so it does me what damage it can. The bourgeois press does me damage too and would like to consign me and my movement to the devil.

Hitler's interview with Richard Breiting, 1931, published in Edouard Calic, ed., “First Interview with Hitler, 4 May 1931,” Secret Conversations with Hitler: The Two Newly-Discovered 1931 Interviews, New York: John Day Co., 1971, pp. 31-33. Also published under the title Unmasked: Two Confidential Interviews with Hitler in 1931 , published by Chatto & Windus in 1971

I will tolerate no opposition. We recognize only subordination – authority downwards and responsibility upwards. You just tell the German bourgeoisie that I shall be finished with them far quicker than I shall with marxism... When once the conservative forces in Germany realize that only I and my party can win the German proletariat over to the State and that no parliamentary games can be played with marxist parties, then Germany will be saved for all time, then we can found a German Peoples State.

Hitler's interview with Richard Breiting, 1931, published in Edouard Calic, ed., “First Interview with Hitler,4 May 1931,” Secret Conversations with Hitler: The Two Newly-Discovered 1931 Interviews, New York: John Day Co., 1971, pp. 36-37. Also published under the title Unmasked: Two Confidential Interviews with Hitler in 1931 published by Chatto & Windus in 1971

I have learned a great deal from Marxism as I do not hesitate to admit… The difference between them and myself is that I have really put into practice what these peddlers and pen pushers have timidly begun. The whole of National Socialism is based on it… National Socialism is what Marxism might have been if it could have broken its absurd and artificial ties with a democratic order.

As quoted in The Voice of Destruction, Hermann Rauschning, New York, NY, G.P. Putnam’s Sons (1940) p. 186, this book is also known as Hitler Speaks
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www.reddit.com...




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posted on Jan, 13 2021 @ 10:32 PM
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posted on Jan, 13 2021 @ 10:33 PM
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a reply to: Chadwickus


After all, that's exactly why we call ourselves National Socialists! We want to start by implementing socialism in our nation among our Volk! It is not until the individual nations are socialist that they can address themselves to international socialism.

Adolf Hitler

As quoted by Otto Wagener in Hitler—Memoirs of a Confidant, editor, Henry Ashby Turner, Jr., Yale University Press (1985) p. 288

Adolf Hitler Quote

Keep denying how similar you are to your pal meanwhile the party you want ruling over the U.S., meanwhile you live in Australia..., is doing today in the U.S. the same things the nazis started doing in nazi Germany...



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posted on Jan, 14 2021 @ 10:25 PM
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More evidence that Antifa/BLM members, and other radical left-wingers infiltrated the protest and were the ones doing the destruction in the Capitol. There are videos showing real pro-Trump supporters stopping, or attempting to stop the rioters/Antifa/BLM thugs breaking windows and causing destruction.

Here is one of such thugs which called to burn down the Capitol while he was inside.




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IN THE UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT FOR THE DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA UNITED STATES OF AMERICA : Case No: : v. : VIOLATIONS: : JOHN EARLE SULLIVAN, : 18 U.SC. §§ 231(a)(3), 2 : (Civil Disorders) Defendant. : : 18 U.S.C. § 1752(a) : (Restricted Building or Grounds) : : 40 U.S.C. § 5104(e)(2) : (Violent Entry or Disorderly Conduct) AFFIDAVIT IN SUPPORT OF CRIMINAL COMPLAINT AND ARREST WARRANT
I, Matthew B. Foulger, being first duly sworn, hereby depose and state as follows:
PURPOSE OF AFFIDAVIT
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www.scribd.com...

thenationalpulse.com...


John Earle Sullivan, 25, was charged federally on Wednesday with being on restricted property, civil disorder and “violent entry or disorderly conduct,” according to a complaint filed in U.S. District Court in the District of Columbia.
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Sullivan, who is the founder of Insurgence USA, a social justice group that calls itself anti-fascist and protests police brutality, attended a rally in Washington, D.C.. on Jan. 6 held by supporters of President Donald Trump outside the U.S. Capitol.

www.msn.com...






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posted on Jan, 14 2021 @ 10:39 PM
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John Earle Sullivan is a pretty well known nihilist and chaos agent. He doesnt really seem to have any specific set political agenda, he's tried to brand himself as several different things, but he's always been around to help spread chaos at multiple different places.



posted on Jan, 14 2021 @ 11:19 PM
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a reply to: trb71

Same thing can be said of Antifa, and other radical groups which do the same as well as other people like Jason Kessler whom voted twice for Obama, claimed that President Obama was the best POTUS, and despite the fact that he has lifelong left-wing beliefs, like man-made/anthropogenic climate change, the need to cull the human population to "save nature and the planet" etc. He claimed all of a sudden after hearing candidate Trump he "became a nazi overnight..." BS... He has written that he respects the most people whom are "agent provocateurs", like himself, Heimbach, and others that claim to be right-wing but have socialist ideals like Kessler...



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