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Originally posted by OXmanK
Maybe I am missing the point on all of these...but I just see these and a few others as flawed and perhaps just not thought through all of the way. Granted there is a large mess in Washington, but I do not think these will solve anything. And may in fact cause more harm than good.
My philosophy, Objectivism, holds that:
1. Reality exists as an objective absolute—facts are facts, independent of man's feelings, wishes, hopes or fears.
2. Reason (the faculty which identifies and integrates the material provided by man's senses) is man's only means of perceiving reality, his only source of knowledge, his only guide to action, and his basic means of survival.
3. Man—every man—is an end in himself, not the means to the ends of others. He must exist for his own sake, neither sacrificing himself to others nor sacrificing others to himself. The pursuit of his own rational self-interest and of his own happiness is the highest moral purpose of his life.
4. The ideal political-economic system is laissez-faire capitalism. It is a system where men deal with one another, not as victims and executioners, nor as masters and slaves, but as traders, by free, voluntary exchange to mutual benefit. It is a system where no man may obtain any values from others by resorting to physical force, and no man may initiate the use of physical force against others. The government acts only as a policeman that protects man's rights; it uses physical force only in retaliation and only against those who initiate its use, such as criminals or foreign invaders. In a system of full capitalism, there should be (but, historically, has not yet been) a complete separation of state and economics, in the same way and for the same reasons as the separation of state and church.
Should immigration laws be abolished?
As if Al-Qaeda needs anymore help getting into this country...moving on...
There's a difference between small "l" libertarians and big "L" Libertarians. Big "L" Libertarians being people affiliated or agreeing with the Libertarian Party. Small "l" libertarians are simply people that follow a libertarian philosophy. There can be a big difference.
There are several different forms of libertarianism. Libertarian Socialism is really just a pretty word for anarchism. This sums it up well: "adherents believe that management of the common good (socialism) is necessary, but that this should be done in a manner that preserves individual liberty and avoids concentration of power or authority (libertarianism). Some libertarian socialists say individual liberty and societal harmony are necessarily antagonistic, and anarchist philosophy must balance the two. Others feel that the two are symbiotic, and that the liberty of the individual guarantees the harmony of the society and vice-versa."
Then there's Libertarian Capitalism, the philosophy more closely associated to the LP.
There are many people that say they are libertarians, yet believe in completely different things. In fact, some libertarians say that voting in elections and the very idea of a political party are both anti-libertarian.
Why? There are extremes to any ideology, but that doesn't affect the people with more balanced views on those particular ideologies. Just because some people have an extremist take on an issue doesn't mean that should affect your views. If people did take the extremist position on issues, then all leftists would be vegans, but very many of us aren't even vegetarians. I'm a vegetarian myself, but I'm not a vegan.
Originally posted by boogyman
Its issues like that turn me off of Libertarianism. I see the point though that there is no set definition of libertarianism so basically as long as the freedom of the individual is maintained a philosophy can be libertarian in nature. In which case I guess you could call me a lower case libertarian. I never call myself libertarian though to seperate myself from the more extreme positions the philosophy can take.