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reply posted on 20-3-2005 @ 09:48 AM by RANT
Originally posted by FlyersFan
Originally posted by RANT
But anyone emotionally involved in this case (not related to
Mrs. Schiavo) is being played for a fool.


RANT. YOU told me that the heart and soul of the left is to take
care of people ... from breathe to death.


That was another issue. In the comparative context of "the greater good" the left is concerned with "breathe to death" as "the right" is predominantly concerned with "conception to breathe"... then you're on your on.

As evident when then Gov. Bush (in 99) first signed the bill into law that allowed
Hospitals to End Life Support AGAINST FAMILY WISHES When Patients Can't Pay!

But am I "the left" in this argument? I'm calling them the suckers.

Senate Democratic Communications Center
“I am pleased Senator Frist and I were able to pass the bill that protects the life of Terri Schiavo by allowing her parents to go to federal court. If the House Republicans refuse to pass our bipartisan bill, they bear responsibility for the consequences.”

Don't politicize my refusal to get sucked into this diversion as indicative of anything but my recognition of a circus when I see one.

This rally for "Terri" consists of both "left" and "right" as new camp. A new "Kleenex Camp" I don't fully understand the implications of yet, but it is a political camp just as handled as Terri's parents have been and just as manufactured as the result of a Frank Luntz focus group.

You're also an irrelevant group which makes me wonder why the news and federal government seems to care so much all of a sudden.

PollingReport/TerriSchiavo

65% of the public think her spouse should determine her fate (25% parents).

87% would want to be allowed to die in the same situation. (8% say kept alive).

Correction: That means the new "Kleenex Camp" (now approaching 25%) has been successfully wedged off by the same 8% that want life no matter what (probably the same camp as the "ban all abortions" people), and that's the hook for all the attention and fair & balanced debate between supposedly fanatically divided equal camps.

It's really not. It's probably the 8% wearing sandwich boards sceaming Save Terri, Save Terri... (with the 17% neo-converts making up 25% in the circus that is "Save Terri") against the overwhelming majority of America (both right and left) looking at your Congressional side show in confusion and disgust.

Don't be shouted down America by radical fringe groups pretending to be a movement. Don't get sucked in by circuses.

[edit on 20-3-2005 by RANT]


reply posted on 20-3-2005 @ 11:47 PM by Bleys
What an awful precedent this sends - let's hope the federal courts strike it down quickly, otherwise the interference by the Feds is just getting started.

"It will be very interesting, because I just can't think of another case that's like this," said Nathaniel Persily, a University of Pennsylvania law professor. "I mean, our guts tell us it's wrong for Congress to try to legislate the result of a particular case, and in general, courts frown on retroactivity and laws that are aimed at selecting out a particular person. But I can't tell you what context a court would use to decide this particular issue, because it's so unusual."

Douglas Laycock, a University of Texas law professor, said there wasn't much ambiguity to the issue.

"Congress is saying no matter how final a matter is, no matter how settled it is in state court, we can tell you to go back and redo it in federal court," he said. "Congress gets to write statutes. It doesn't decide cases, and that's what they seem to be doing here."

The law Congress is set to pass says that the parents of Terri Schiavo, who has been in a vegetative state for 15 years, can go to a federal court to argue that removing her feeding tubes violates her rights under the U.S. Constitution or under federal law.

Congress says the federal court can't consider the many state court judgments that concluded that her husband, as legal guardian, had a right to have her feeding tubes removed. And it can't consider the fact that the Florida Supreme Court has reviewed those state court decisions and concluded that they passed legal muster.

The goal of the legislation is to get Schiavo's parents a full hearing in federal court, and the new law also commands the federal court to provide "injunctive relief" from the state court decisions, which would presumably have Schiavo's feeding tubes re-connected while the federal court proceedings unfold, which could take a year or more.

The legislation raises several questions about Congress' authority, experts say. One is whether it is treading on ground that is reserved exclusively for the judiciary in the Constitution; another is whether it is simply beyond the scope of Congress' own enumerated powers in the Constitution.

There are also questions about whether Congress is improperly blurring the lines between federal and state authority, and whether it is changing a law and applying it retroactively to a case that's already settled.


Regardless of your opinion on the Schiavo case - this law has huge ramifications and needs to be read by all.

Source:
KC Star
Shiavo Compromise Law

B.
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