Since ATS and/or the UFO forum may be going away, I thought it only civil to wrap up a few things, and if anyone has been shy about asking me
anything, now's your chance.
Regarding the USG and 'UFOs'
Assuming the USG 'knows all about 'UFOs' is like assuming the Pope 'knows all about god'. It's a complete non-starter. Yes, the USG has massive
resources, and yes, there have been many unstable personalities within the USG over the years, who have attempted to spend taxpayer dollars on their
private aspiration to be Fox Mulder. If you get to know any of these folks, I think you will find that they are all attempting to 'trade up' -- for
example the 'aviary' kept trying to 'trade up'; some of the individuals that the 'aviary' was attempting to trade up to, was themselves attempting to
'trade up' to even higher 'authorities'. It's like a traffic accident; everyone is going "go around idiot", "go around" to everyone, while they are
themselves such an idiot. All available information (and there's a fair amount of it) indicates that the USG is a Russian Doll within Doll sort of
thing, where everyone assumes there is something there, if ONLY they had higher clearance, while the final guy with ridiculous clearance, also wishes
to find someone more in the know than they themselves are. In the final analysis, if you take out 'metaphysical things', you are left with only the
Regarding the USG and Metaphysical Things
The USG has been infiltrating occult groups since forever, and there certainly have been many of the same individuals referenced in the previous
section who are poking around with ghosts and such, on the taxpayer's dime. Now there are the two major divisions, that being the Christian "it's all
demons" (and some Gnostics "It's Archons") and then the non-religiously inclined pseudoscience/occultists types.
Now I'll be the last person to say, that occult things don't exist, but occult does just mean 'hidden', and I for one like to say that 'occult things'
are simply undiscovered laws of physics.. of course it may be that we are 'turtles all the way down' with the 'laws of physics' being just simulated
nonsense, but then that would indicate there are 'magical laws', and any sort of laws are still laws, and may as well be called 'undiscovered laws of
physics'. It's a good general term.
The thing is, with the occult, that humans are capable of infinite self-deception, and the human brain is actually a virtual reality generator carried
around by legs. If you go into enough of a 'shamanic frenzy' you can completely break with reality and experience almost anything you want 'inside of
your virtual reality generator'.
So if you manage to pull off some rare 'shamanic thing' , are you just burrowing into your own brain and showing yourself movies? Or are you affecting
the 'real world'? Perhaps both?
There's certainly been enough effects in the physical world associated with 'paranormal events', or there certainly SEEMS to be. It's very slippery
stuff to prove.
And that's the point.
I highly suspect that the reason the USG isn't 'interested in the 'real UFOs' is that they have chased it around a whole bunch, and while they
'believe in it', Casper has not cooperate for them either, and has not allowed himself to be captured and dissected for them either.
But if 'real disclosure' is something like "sometimes occult critters / ghosts" really exist, that's the LAST thing the USG would put out there.
Instead, they'd ram nuts and bolts UFOs down our throats, which is exactly what they've been doing since day one.
Now of course, the false belief in nuts and bolts UFOs has been vigorously put forward by the USG, (either by promoting as in Rosewell) or even more
effectively by denying (you want what is denied to you), to cover black project operations.
Good or Evil Spirits
If there really is something 'spiritual' out there, whether you want to call it 'spirit' or 'demon' or 'djinn' or 'plasma' or 'Boltzmann brains'; it
doesn't matter what you call it, all those concepts are wrong IMHO, the question always comes down to, are the 'hypothetical spirits' 'good' or
Well, humans killed about 1 billion cattle in the year 2014; those innocent, peaceful, inoffensive cattle.. I had one as a pet as a kid.. it licked my
hand and wanted me to pet it. Later that year, I found it's carcass hanging upside down from tree as it was being skinned and gutted by my
stepfather. The same stepfather who killed my pet rabbit, fried it up and forced me to eat it.
So are humans 'evil'? the cattle would probably think so, if they were a bit more aware.
Humans want 'good and evil' so that they can switch their brains off; they also want a 'free lunch' from some metaphysical sky daddy, who will kiss
their boo boos and tell them that they are the center of all creation.
We've no evidence that sort of thinking is rational or effective in any way. Living creatures compete with some, predate on some, and cooperate with
some.. if 'hypothetical spirits' exist, almost certainly they would live based on 'self-interest' like any other living thing, and it would be
pointless to call them 'good or evil'.
Now, finally, is it valid to say that 'spirits' are more evil than good? Well, contrary to much wailing and gnashing of teeth, 'spirits' have never
been observed to help anybody (rare exceptions, but it was due to self-interest no doubt). So that would APPEAR to make them 'evil' to a human being,
who worships himself and his species as being special.
What I do know, is that humans beings are busy exterminating all life on Earth.. we don't need to worry about metaphysical boogey men, real or not; we
should stop our own madness first.
Is Chasing after UFOs / Metaphysics Worth it?
I'd recommend that we stop the destruction of all life on Earth FIRST; do useful things for humans and stop being so savage and heartless to the rest
of Earth's ecosystem. THEN sure.
But be very careful of course. Nothing will screw up someone faster than chasing after 'UFOs' and "the occult". (or god or your own soul, it's all the
The human brain just CRAVES certainty, which then leads to a bit of mental illness when taken too far.. it's how we evolved.. we simply MUST, most of
us, poke around the edges of reality looking for more. It's how we evolved.
It's really hazardous, and our attempts to scratch this itch, or at least deaden it, is largely behind why we are destroying all life on Earth.
So yah... getting to the bottom of that would be very good. But almost nobody would accept the results. What if the answer for our 'occult
thirstiness' as a species were discovered to be a couple mangled base pairs of DNA? Who would want to accept that?
Ok... I'll leave it there for now, as a conversation starter.
edit on 18-12-2020 by KellyPrettyBear because: typos