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Options still exists to right the ship....

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posted on Dec, 16 2020 @ 09:45 AM
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While some here will say: “ you don’t believe in the Constitution”.. to the contrary; I believe in it and I am glad there are checks and balances in place like this.

If the “law” is refusing to see these blatantly obvious crimes against the people of this country; then the lawless “justices” and leaders of these ABC agencies need to be held accountable.

I do understand that if this happens, and NOTHING is found; then it was all for nothing. BUT extreme times cal for extreme measures; and I for one would like the integrity, put back into this system..

Friday should be interesting......


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posted on Dec, 16 2020 @ 09:48 AM
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And if nothing comes from it, then Trump himself should also be held accountable. But I can’t ignore the writing on the wall. There is TOO MANY signs of fraud, wrongdoings, blatant gaslighting, and propaganda to ignore......

As I have said before ( MATH doesn’t LIE) and we are seeing math speak very many truths in this “(S)election”
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posted on Dec, 16 2020 @ 09:51 AM
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If Fraud, on the scale that is being claimed was carried out, I am certain it would have been found and judges would have no choice but to listen and make informed decisions in relation to the law.

I do not expect people who are blinded by Trumpism to clearly see or understand this, as they all think anyone denying them justice is part of the problem, even if the evidence does not stack up.


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posted on Dec, 16 2020 @ 09:52 AM
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originally posted by: SeektoUnderstand
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While some here will say: “ you don’t believe in the Constitution”.. to the contrary; I believe in it and I am glad there are checks and balances in place like this. I do understand that if this happens, and NOTHING is found; then it was all for nothing. BUT extreme times cal for extreme measures; and I for one would like the integrity, put back into this system..
Friday should be interesting......



I firmly believe the election was a fraud and sham.

While I would like to believe there will be a miracle like Israel had in the 6 day war. I don't believe it will happen. So please don't get your hopes up, the odds are 99.9% against our hopes for the USA.

I also believe Joe won't last a year before radical and far left Harris becomes President as planned so that the Democrats will be thrilled to have a "black" female President. Identity group is the #1 concern in the Democratic Party, they must at all times be politically correct rather than choose the best person, skin color and gender are their #1 qualifications for all jobs.

Don't get your hopes up for Georgia either, some polling places use Dominion cheating machines without paper ballots to recheck results, and Georgia has mastered sending ballot counters home and then finding ballots to count after the official counters went home.

I believe China/mainstream media mogels/tech mogels and their collusion with Democratic Party corruption is so deep and so established we will never learn the truth. The election is firmly set for a nearly 80 year old man to take the Presidency and for complete and total one party rule for generations to come.

The Democrats will rule the nation with the very heavy handed iron fist that the Democratic Governors have been doing for the past year.

They will institute socialism and raise taxes sky high on even the middle class.

They must to enact all the free things they have promised to institute.

Welcome to the people's republic of the USA.

CNN, MSNBC, NBC, ABC, CBS, NY Times, The Atlantic, Google, Facebook, Twitter, Microsoft, Soros, have won and we will end up like China. Google wrote and sold to China the program that enables China to 24/7 surveil every single individual in the country for "incorrect" thinking on their phones or internet to punish them.

With single party rule firmly established how long before the tech giants hand the code for 24/7 surveillance to Pelosi/Schumer/Biden/Harris to use on YOU?



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posted on Dec, 16 2020 @ 09:55 AM
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originally posted by: Cobaltic1978
If Fraud, on the scale that is being claimed was carried out, I am certain it would have been found and judges would have no choice but to listen and make informed decisions in relation to the law.

I do not expect people who are blinded by Trumpism to clearly see or understand this, as they all think anyone denying them justice is part of the problem, even if the evidence does not stack up.


Maybe, but personally I view the fraud that has been implied as the part of the iceberg that's above the water. While each little bit of potential fraud may not add up to much, taken as a whole it's probably much larger than people realize and would probably sink the ship if it came to light.

Anyone want to take bets that the Democrats try to enforce an overhaul of the voting system so the same things can't happen to them the next election?
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posted on Dec, 16 2020 @ 09:56 AM
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Donald Trump declare a national emergency, invoke the Insurrection Act and suspend habeas corpus.

The Insurrection Act, also mentioned in Steinburg's post, allows the president to deploy the military on U.S. soil.


And...then what happens?



posted on Dec, 16 2020 @ 09:56 AM
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To be blinded by “Trumpism” I would have to be an idiot that falls under the right or left paradigm. Seeing as I do not and have the ability to look past bias; I have concluded that the brainwashing of people to just read a headline and say “fake news”.... or “no evidence”, well those people have chosen willfull ignorance and that I will never condone.

“Seek first to understand, before you’re understood”.



posted on Dec, 16 2020 @ 09:56 AM
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Woah dude...you believe that then you need to GTFO and go to Cuba or somewhere.

Any sane person would think o themselves that a Republican Rep/Senator, or local rep would have been able to produce some real evidence.


To hell with anyone suspending civil liberties or anyone who would support that happening.



posted on Dec, 16 2020 @ 09:58 AM
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originally posted by: SeektoUnderstand
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While some here will say: “ you don’t believe in the Constitution”.. to the contrary; I believe in it and I am glad there are checks and balances in place like this.

If the “law” is refusing to see these blatantly obvious crimes against the people of this country; then the lawless “justices” and leaders of these ABC agencies need to be held accountable.

I do understand that if this happens, and NOTHING is found; then it was all for nothing. BUT extreme times cal for extreme measures; and I for one would like the integrity, put back into this system..

Friday should be interesting......

The 2020 election was run under a state of national emergency, I wonder why?

thehill.com...




posted on Dec, 16 2020 @ 10:00 AM
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There is no reason and no justifcation at any time to trample our Consitution.

The day that actually happens, as opposed to people talking about doing it, is the day the USA will die.

Thankfully, it is blatantly obvious that the vast majority of American still want our constitutional republic.

There are plenty of Constitutional and legal methods for deailng with insurrectionists and traitors.



posted on Dec, 16 2020 @ 10:00 AM
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Anyone that committed treason, or willingling ignored evidence to fraud would be held accountable. They would hopefully hold a re-vote, without the machines ( especially ones connected to the internet, that children can hack).

Now I said there are options to right the ship..... however; that leaves it up to the captain. Always a chance for mutiny.


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posted on Dec, 16 2020 @ 10:02 AM
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originally posted by: Cobaltic1978
If Fraud, on the scale that is being claimed was carried out, I am certain it would have been found and judges would have no choice but to listen and make informed decisions in relation to the law.


Really? You're certain??? Because judges cannot be wrong? Judges cannot be corrupted? Judges cannot be blackmailed? Bought? Threatened with bodily harm?

Please.


I do not expect people who are blinded by Trumpism to clearly see or understand this...


Screw the left-right paradigm. Those of us not living in the left-right paradigm, who do not think in a partisan bubble, understand that the ONLY proper answer is full transparency. Proof one way or the other. The people have a right to the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.

We aren't the ones afraid of the truth. We aren't the ones desperately trying to convince others to trust the most corrupt critters on the planet.


...as they all think anyone denying them justice is part of the problem, even if the evidence does not stack up.


Freudian slip there??? Denial of justice is ALWAYS a problem.



posted on Dec, 16 2020 @ 10:03 AM
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originally posted by: Cobaltic1978
If Fraud, on the scale that is being claimed was carried out, I am certain it would have been found and judges would have no choice but to listen and make informed decisions in relation to the law.

I do not expect people who are blinded by Trumpism to clearly see or understand this, as they all think anyone denying them justice is part of the problem, even if the evidence does not stack up.

Know what's worse than US citizens blinded by Trumpism ?
Foreign citizens with a deep TDS affliction.
Why ?
There
Is
Just
No
Reason
For
It

Yet in this case we were speaking of "righting the ship"
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posted on Dec, 16 2020 @ 10:03 AM
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Unconstitutional Executive Orders aren't worth the virtual paper they're written on.

What you're seeing is simply what happens when a narcissist feels they have no limitations. Trump literally CANNOT CONCEIVE that he can't wheedle his way out of losing. He can't. There is a significant number of Americans who have been caught up in a kind of participation mystique with Trump's personality disorder.

Thankfully, the Constitution and principled Americans are not all trapped in co-dependency.



posted on Dec, 16 2020 @ 10:04 AM
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“Trampling” by using what is included “in the law”? Can’t always use a fastball, got to have an off speed pitch. Or you’ll give up too many homeruns for the other team.

You already “trampled” it; by ignoring facts, that you claim unless a court says so are not facts.

So if I told you, the moon orbited the earth...... would you need a group of astrologers to tell you, or can you not see what is plainly in front of you?
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posted on Dec, 16 2020 @ 10:05 AM
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The whole fake news phenomenon was started by Trump and to what ends? Anything he disagrees with is termed fake news, even if it is later proved very real.

There have been numerous attempts at trying to get results overturned in many states, but no real evidence produced. I’ve seen lots of statements claiming fraud on many sites, yet when it does get to court, it’s more hearsay than actual evidence.

I truly feel if there was fraud to the level being suggested then fraud would have happened on both sides. People can’t believe the numbers voting for Biden, but I would suggest they were voting against Trump. Either way, you’re screwed. Biden is not good for America, and neither is Trump.

Is there any candidate out there that can reach out and appeal to both sides? Or, is political division too wide now?


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posted on Dec, 16 2020 @ 10:06 AM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66
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Unconstitutional Executive Orders aren't worth the virtual paper they're written on.

What you're seeing is simply what happens when a narcissist feels they have no limitations. Trump literally CANNOT CONCEIVE that he can't wheedle his way out of losing. He can't. There is a significant number of Americans who have been caught up in a kind of participation mystique with Trump's personality disorder.

Thankfully, the Constitution and principled Americans are not all trapped in co-dependency.

You have still yet to explain how this would be unconstitutional?

Pretty sure you were bitching for 4 years about russian collusion, or in other words foreign intervention, yet doing something about it is now unconstitutional???



posted on Dec, 16 2020 @ 10:08 AM
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What’s happening Friday? I’m not clicking on a link without a summary.



posted on Dec, 16 2020 @ 10:08 AM
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There was evidence for Russian collusi........ wait nope, that’s right....



posted on Dec, 16 2020 @ 10:08 AM
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How will deploying the military on us soil and suspending habeus corpus make this happen?
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