originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: Leftist
China's rise is proof that socialism is superior to capitalism
China's rise is proof that a mix of both socialism and capitalism works well for them although their people still suffer the worst of both systems.
Spot on, it did work well in Europe however, Western Europe that is until the 80's came along (you lived through it so you know but for others that
did not or are not from here).
In our system it was NOT a communist government but a more or less democratic government in the UK and our particular mix of socialism and capitalism
was working great until both the Extreme Right Tory's and the foreign Communists working through there proxy MILITANT destroyed our system, caused
mass strikes (really at there worse in the 70's and those in the 80's were at least partially justified) on the part of the Commies and sold off our
national assets on the part of the TORY's, BOTH ARE AS BAD AND AS EVIL AS ONE ANOTHER.
But for well over 30 years it bloody worked and it worked great, no true homelessness since we had council housing and everyone had the right to a
house, subsidised industry's to help us compete with the rest of the world (The EU is terrified of us subsidising our industry in the future once we
are out) and a social safety net, comprehensive health care for every person - no two track system as we have today with private health insurance
today being given priority even though we in fact PAY for our health service and it rightly BELONGS to us.
China though is very different, they do not value human life like we do, not talking on a person by person level but as a society.
Baby girls left out to die and never declared during there one child policy, a child being run over in the street by a driver whom full well knew she
was there but drove over her anyway and then a second driver whom did exactly the same with his lorry and drove over the crying dying child and people
walking past her like she was less than a dog or something and not caring one iota.
I have come to despise them and I am sorry China but you are EVIL, your system was NEVER communism NEVER and neither was the Russian Soviet
More like Totalitarianism and a new imperial dynasty dressed up as THE PARTY in both cases.
You want communism then listen THROW that little red book down the toilette were it belongs.
Go and pick up a bible and read about the early Christian's, there is no Atheism involved and No priestly princess cashing in and wearing silk's,
it's people pooling there money and wealth in there community while using the excess to help those less fortunate than themselves and being willing to
die PACIVEY for there belief's.
OR go and look at a Kibbutz - pretty much the same thing but with a tiny bit more personal greed and no Jesus though they still accept his father
just not his father in him which they will have to figure out some day when he proves them wrong.
And China claiming Jesus murdered someone, what quoting from an Islamic lie or making it up which is it?.
The State is not GOD, it is not Mother and it is not Father it is a group of people most of whom have never met one another and a tiny group of
people living very well off from the sweat and toil of the rest of them called the Party.
At least in our System we get a choice of which crook we put into power they are not foisted onto us by corrupt bent officials (most of the time but
the US are wondering if that very thing is currently happening to them).
And then there is China STEALING other people's territory, POACHING (STEALING) Other peoples fish not even leaving the fry so the fish will become
extinct from what they are doing and worse.
Your PARTY killed millions of your people in the so called Cultural Revolution, they Turned to Cannibalism to feed themselves and there are many
tales that this is still going on in China to this day and I quite believe them, the starvation of your cultural revolution when MAO killed off the
hardest working and poorest of your people the uneducated farmers forcing them from the land is well documented, that is not communism that is as bad
as Pol Pot.
Here is the simple truth, ALL POLITICIANS are # HEADS, the rest of us really don't have much of say but at least we can try to do something about
that in the west, over there in China if you ask for a say in who governs you the tank's will roll over you and crush your body flat.
Oh and lets not forget prisoners imprisoned so the PARTY can sell there internal organs for transplant's, forced sterilization of non HAN minority's
Not the nicest folk's in the world by any means I am sure you would agree if you take and objective stance.
edit on 5-12-2020 by LABTECH767 because: (no reason given)