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Freedom in Iraq Doesn't Come With a Haircut. (If you want one, you'll be murdered)

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posted on Mar, 18 2005 @ 09:42 AM
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I deleleted this one. sorry..it was a repeat



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posted on Mar, 18 2005 @ 09:46 AM
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Originally posted by 00PSGo read my ATSNN Submissions about womens rights in Iraq.

Women in Iraq under saddam had more rights

Under their new 'rule' (not government) they have less rights

They are under taliban style shar'ia rule

Go read a book yourself before you accuse people like you have.

You are wrong...that's the last I will say.



they did have the right to be picked up off the street, raped and killed by sadam's sons and his cohorts.

is that the right you are talking about?



posted on Mar, 18 2005 @ 09:48 AM
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Originally posted by Crakeur

Originally posted by 00PSGo read my ATSNN Submissions about womens rights in Iraq.

Women in Iraq under saddam had more rights

Under their new 'rule' (not government) they have less rights

They are under taliban style shar'ia rule

Go read a book yourself before you accuse people like you have.

You are wrong...that's the last I will say.



they did have the right to be picked up off the street, raped and killed by sadam's sons and his cohorts.

is that the right you are talking about?


If you haven't done your research then go do it schoolboy.

If you don't know the social freedoms that women had under Saddam then you have no idea about the differences of

secular societies vs. religious oppression

Go read a book. They're good for your mind.



posted on Mar, 18 2005 @ 09:49 AM
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Originally posted by 00PS
I see your 330 points and I can only assume you are new...

word to the wise, stay on topic.

the topic of this post is about freedom in iraq doesn't count for haircuts anymore....

you are argueing apples and oranges my friend...

sorry... if you can't prove my point wrong, take your agruements into a new thread!

peace


OOPS, man you took a low blow with that one!!!!
Im ok people, I have regained my stance and Im back in the fight!!!!

OOPS, My 330 pts (yeah baby) is not an issue here for this thread....
people can see that I have 330 pts, you do not have to point it out
people can see that I have been a member since early 2005 and they can make their own assumptions on my level of Experience.
Since in your eyes "newbies" have no credibility and or intelligence.

I am done here, people I apologize for wandering off topic.

Now I will punish myself as a newbie should
im joking ok

I thought I was in topic....except for this thread of course...
and I believe it was OOPS who also wrote a little about womens
rights in Iraq....but hey, how about them haircuts!!!

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posted on Mar, 18 2005 @ 10:07 AM
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At least that is what their marketing brochure said....
I would want my money (and soul) back...



posted on Mar, 18 2005 @ 10:12 AM
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Yeah then Christians and Jews should get their money back too.

Don't you think?

Many wars have been fought in the name of religion, not just Islamic wars.



posted on Mar, 18 2005 @ 10:23 AM
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....I believe one of Saddans top scientists on chemical warfare was a female, I don't know, is this good or bad
?

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posted on Mar, 18 2005 @ 11:26 AM
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OOPS,

Thanks alot for making ATS a worse and worse place.

Originally posted by 00PS
That is an ignorant statement
Women had more rights under saddam
you don't know what you are talking about


Originally posted by 00PS
DUH!!!!!!
I DON"T CARE IF YOU DON"T LIKE WHAT I POST
SMART PEOPLE DO


Originally posted by 00PS
Under Saddam you could get any haircut you want
Under USA occupation you can't
Any questions?
That cut and dry huh


: Originally posted by 00PS
I see your 330 points and I can only assume you are new...
word to the wise, stay on topic.
the topic of this post is about freedom in iraq doesn't count for haircuts anymore....
you are argueing apples and oranges my friend...
sorry... if you can't prove my point wrong, take your agruements into a new thread!
peace

I think SkepticOverlord put it well in this thread
www.abovetopsecret.com...



posted on Mar, 18 2005 @ 11:30 AM
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Originally posted by REASON
OOPS,

Thanks alot for making ATS a worse and worse place.

Originally posted by 00PS
That is an ignorant statement
Women had more rights under saddam
you don't know what you are talking about


Originally posted by 00PS
DUH!!!!!!
I DON"T CARE IF YOU DON"T LIKE WHAT I POST
SMART PEOPLE DO


Originally posted by 00PS
Under Saddam you could get any haircut you want
Under USA occupation you can't
Any questions?
That cut and dry huh


: Originally posted by 00PS
I see your 330 points and I can only assume you are new...
word to the wise, stay on topic.
the topic of this post is about freedom in iraq doesn't count for haircuts anymore....
you are argueing apples and oranges my friend...
sorry... if you can't prove my point wrong, take your agruements into a new thread!
peace

I think SkepticOverlord put it well in this thread
www.abovetopsecret.com...


You are most welcome. If you need anything else please be sure to come back and be off topic with your silly little remarks again. Oh I forgot, would you like Cheese with your Whine?



posted on Mar, 18 2005 @ 11:49 AM
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Violence Against Women



Human rights organizations and opposition groups continued to receive reports of women who suffered from severe psychological trauma after being raped by Iraqi personnel while in custody.



Former Mukhabarat member Khalid Al-Janabi reported that a Mukhabarat unit, the Technical Operations Directorate, used rape and sexual assault in a systematic and institutionalized manner for political purposes. The unit reportedly also videotaped the rape of female relatives of suspected oppositionists and used the videotapes for blackmail purposes and to ensure their future cooperation.



In June 2000, a former Iraqi general reportedly received a videotape of security forces raping a female family member. He subsequently received a telephone call from an intelligence agent who stated that another female relative was being held and warned him to stop speaking out against the Iraqi Government.

Iraqi security forces allegedly raped women who were captured during the Anfal Campaign and during the occupation of Kuwait.

Amnesty International reported that, in October 2000, the Iraqi Government executed dozens of women accused of prostitution.

In May, the Iraqi Government reportedly tortured to death the mother of three Iraqi defectors for her children's opposition activities.


Iraqi security agents reportedly decapitated numerous women and men in front of their family members. According to Amnesty International, the victims' heads were displayed in front of their homes for several days.

www.whitehouse.gov...



posted on Mar, 18 2005 @ 01:37 PM
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Yeah, that's sarcasm...guess you didn't pick it up...


You just needed to slam the US? btw how is the UN doing bringing peace to Africa?



posted on Mar, 18 2005 @ 06:27 PM
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I feel that the barbers should now be entitled to carry shotguns or AK-47's in their shops now if it is getting this bad. In fact the coalition should make it a missions to hand out weapons registered under the barbers name of course in order to stave off this kind of violence.



posted on Mar, 18 2005 @ 06:51 PM
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Originally posted by thehamsamiam
Yeah, that's sarcasm...guess you didn't pick it up...


You just needed to slam the US? btw how is the UN doing bringing peace to Africa?

Yeah, what's wrong with slamming the US? Are you morally opposed to criticism against our government? That's odd. Are you ok? Are you satisfied? If not speak up - you can you know.



posted on Mar, 18 2005 @ 07:15 PM
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Originally posted by 00PSWomen in Iraq under saddam had more rights

Under their new 'rule' (not government) they have less rights

They are under taliban style shar'ia rule

Go read a book yourself before you accuse people like you have.

You are wrong...that's the last I will say.


really? what rights exactly? noone had rights, equality maybe but equality isnt freedom, you can equally oppress too you know.

they arent under shar'ia rule any more than they were under saddam, he didnt ban shar'ia law you know, and whats with the arrogance at the end there?


Originally posted by 00PS
If you haven't done your research then go do it schoolboy.

If you don't know the social freedoms that women had under Saddam then you have no idea about the differences of

secular societies vs. religious oppression

Go read a book. They're good for your mind.


again, equality isnt freedom.

....take your own advice, you know, like get a book on soviet secular policies, or north korea, vietnam, or many other oppressive secular nations.

try comparing secular oppression vs religious oppression, you know because comparing two seperate things is pointless and wont tell you anything.



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