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The Fall of Lucifer, and his Return as the Man of Sin.

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posted on Nov, 29 2020 @ 12:41 PM
I would like to share my understanding of He who was once Heralded as God's Greatest Angel.

Pride was both His greatest strength and weakness.

He was given rule over Earth and Mankind, in accordance with God's Will.

However, Lucifer saw the Great Potential in Mankind, and sought to accelerate and perfect its Growth, against the natural law of Harmony which had been established thus far, by God's Will.

And so Mankind was introduced to its first Great War; a Celestial Battle between Heavenly Bodies.

Man was but a child, and knew nothing.

On one side, God's Word and all those who uphold it.
On the other, our Fallen Prince who only sought to make us become as Him; to be a reflection of His Image.

"Do as thou wilt shall be the whole of the law.
If you so will it, ye be as Gods Yourselves."

"The Light of Life is the only Way.
The Ego must be let go to join the holy sea of Spirit."

To this day, we still each face the duality of "service to others / doing God's Will / sacrifice" and "service to self / exert your own will /survival."

In theory, the labels of Good and Evil fit nicely unto each side.
But in reality, it is clear to see that it is not so.
Our Crowned Prince wished for us to understand the mirror of Truth, the illusion of Evil, the need to balance Self with Oneness.
He understood the great power of Sin, and its terrifying cost.

He wished for us to Know what lies beyond Life and Death, and to become Great Teachers to Worlds Beyond!

Michael who stood on the side of the Way of the Light, with his armies had become the Victors.
And so our Fallen Prince Lucifer was cast down unto a lower Realm, this we call our Physical Universe.

Life progressed as such.
Mankind continued in utter darkness, yet aware of a certain duality of things, conceptualizing a "God" vs "Devil" struggle, assigning labels as we are taught by those we trust.

Though I fervently believe the following and the above, my word is but the needed expression of a Fool who has seen too much and wishes desperately to share what broken memories he yet hold, before they fade away like all else.

Much as God has sent his only begotten Son to share his Good Word, there is One such Man who will speak the Words of our Fallen Prince. This Man we know as the Man of Sin, the Lawless One, the Anti-Christ.

The event of his unveiling will come with Great Tribulations.

And yet, we should all rejoice!

For his Coming ushers in a Dawn of Light!

All things will be made right unto our Brethren, and Mankind shall take his place amidst the Cosmos.

These are interesting times to be alive my friends.
If you stick around long enough, you might get to be lucky/unlucky enough to witness it all!

No one knows of the Hour or the Day of this event.

Though many know the time is at hand.

I love you All.


posted on Nov, 29 2020 @ 12:59 PM
Wow! That was awesome. Great stuff!

posted on Nov, 29 2020 @ 02:20 PM
I'd always railed against "evil" (not in a street preacher way) and fought the "good fight" but the last two years in particular have had a way of shining a light on things and forcing me to view it all in a way I'd never been privy to before...

At one time Lucifer was God's "favorite son"... and of course there was the "falling out"... but the "role" he plays in everything and the view God may have of him may perhaps not be all it's been painted as for millennia...

I know it sounds stupid but I've personally had people approach me and tell me at different times with a weird blank stare in their eyes that I'm both the "second coming" and "the anti-Christ"... at this point who the hell knows... maybe I'm one... or both... or neither... at this point nothing would shock me... including "winged men" armed with swords falling from the sky... been a weird year... and there's plenty more to come...

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posted on Nov, 29 2020 @ 03:17 PM
Wow. Okay.

Talk about reading the context that you want into something.

Lucifer is a LIAR. A murder, a thief.

The lie that was told was "You shall be as Gods". This was a lie, we were already like God, we wouldn't die, we could talk directly to our creator and walked in his garden, your ignorance is astounding and you're literally writing a defense for the man of sin!? Disgusting.

The man of sin is a fierce man who is filled with violence and hatred, he will kill Christians and set up a system were you are FORCED to worship him (God doesn't do that). Honestly this is the most ridiculous thread I've read so far on ATS. You're writing a defense for the devil.

Satan is nothing but a liar with a counterfeit kingdom and ALL who follow after him will have his reward, the lake of fire. You have been warned, don't claim ignorance, he prowls the Earth for people like you, who he can easily devour.

Man of God fight the good fight of faith, I know the thoughts that I think towards you, saith the LORD.

You're backing the enemy. I hope you see sense before this all comes down on your head.

posted on Nov, 29 2020 @ 03:18 PM
Your mind-sea ego field is something I have had mentioned from several sources recently.
Tell me. Is did this realisation occur to you recently, or is it a long held belief?

a reply to: iammrhappy86

posted on Nov, 29 2020 @ 03:25 PM
Well well well chicken little.
Judge not, lest Ye be judged.
The Satan has been judged in righteousness.
YOUR judgement is a flaw and blemish on you.
Observe. Be fruitful and multiply.
Let the divinity keep his own house. Pay attention to to what YOU are doing, Dont worry about what your neighbor does. That is God’s job.

a reply to: Joneselius

posted on Nov, 29 2020 @ 03:35 PM
a reply to: Dalamax

Wrong. So badly wrong.

Ii know who the enemy is, if I didn't I'd have no business being on the battlefield.

I'm not judging anyone, I'm telling people what the BIBLE says the judgement is for those who follow the anti-Christ, if you'd read your Bible you'd know that (by the way) and it's the lake of fire matey.

Try to turn this round all you want, hide behind that impenetrable wall of "I'm like you, you can't judge me", it wont work. I see through this tripe (and that's exactly what this is) and look straight to the spirit that it's formed of, which is anti-Christ.

By the way, you didn't finish the quote, did you?

John 7:24 Do not judge according to appearance, but judge with righteous judgment.”

Your judgement is lacking because you're focused on ME - hypocrite. I'm focused on he spirit behind the words. I don't worry about what I'm doing, Jesus covered me. Those who follow the beast WILL NOT be saved.

James tells us that those who use impartiality will not be spared as their minds are evil, a double minded man is unstable in all his ways, here you people are supporting the ENEMY. Get out of here, liars. Repent!
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posted on Nov, 29 2020 @ 03:44 PM
Is that so?
Reminds me of a slave song.
‘The things that your liable, to read in the bible. They ain’t necessarily so.’
I’m about as focused on you as I am on myself.
We are one, like it or lump it.
Judgement is for everybody. You see, the memories you take to the grave and the ones you imprint on other people will be your witnesses at the time of your slipping this mortal coil.
What is acceptable to God will be accepted. The chaff will be blown to the winds and dismissed.
A Righteous judgement, wrought by your own hand, enacted by a loving God. Who wants the best FROM you.
Just something to consider.
a reply to: Joneselius

posted on Nov, 29 2020 @ 03:46 PM

originally posted by: Joneselius
...The man of sin is a fierce man who is filled with violence and hatred, he will kill Christians and set up a system were you are FORCED to worship him (God doesn't do that)....

Are you talking about the 'God' of the OT here?
The 'God' who told man to worship him alone?
The 'God' who sent man into battle, to destroy cities, kill the men and take the women and children as the spoils?
The 'God' who lied to the Adam and the Eve, to keep them ignorant and keep them naked in subservience?

Or is the 'God' of the OT not the same 'God' as in the NT?

posted on Nov, 29 2020 @ 03:47 PM

originally posted by: Dalamax
Your mind-sea ego field is something I have had mentioned from several sources recently.
Tell me. Is did this realisation occur to you recently, or is it a long held belief?

a reply to: iammrhappy86

It's a long held belief that has grown over time throughout my life.

However, there has been a recent event in my life (near the end of august) which shed much clarity on many things beyond my ability to word properly.

posted on Nov, 29 2020 @ 03:51 PM
It’s a comforting thought for some. A terrible soul threatening betrayal for others.
In the end I know the people who live on in my memories are as much a part of who I am as any who keep memories of me.
a reply to: iammrhappy86

posted on Nov, 29 2020 @ 03:56 PM
a reply to: Dalamax

Again! WRONG!

Where are you getting this rubbish, it's not the Bible.

You think this is about works? About how good YOU are? You've missed the whole point. The father isn't looking at YOU, he's looking at the son. Are you in Christ, or not? If you're not, stop talking.

The Bible says that you don't remember anything in the grave, nor do you think. Come on man. This is nuts. This isn't some cosmic weight balance issue. You're either in Christ Jesus or not, that is literally the ONLY thing that matters, there is only ONE truth, and it's Christ.
edit on 11/10/2012 by Joneselius because: (no reason given)

We are not one, not at all. Unless you repent. You will remain of your father, the Devil. If you repent and trust in Christ then we are brothers, until that time you're simply the same species.
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posted on Nov, 29 2020 @ 03:59 PM
a reply to: fromtheskydown

God is the same today as he was all that time ago, and your post denies the historical reality of everything you typed.

What, you think God is unfair and mean? Boo hoo. He's God and you don't know his thoughts.

God did NOT lie to Adam and Eve, he said they'd die if they ate the fruit, guess what, we still die!

You people are so confused it's painfully, PAINFULLY obvious you're not getting this from scriptures and have, instead, gone wayyyyy out left-field. Always learning and never coming to an understanding of the truth.

We're ALL terrible people, without Christ, it's all vanity and grasping for the wind.

posted on Nov, 29 2020 @ 04:17 PM
The kingdom of God is within you. ‘Don’t you know that Ye are God’s?’
Sound familiar? Tell me what truth is Jesus? The truth is simple. The bible is a little pond for little fish. It’s a great big ocean outside your little book.
Point it out to me, where is the kingdom of God?

reply to: Joneselius

posted on Nov, 29 2020 @ 04:18 PM
a reply to: iammrhappy86

Glad you are sharing your insights with us, appreciated 😊👍

Lighting the path, in a dark and troubled world, that leads to a bright new day.

God bless.

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posted on Nov, 29 2020 @ 04:22 PM
Not works you dolt. Memories. You can change a persons life without them even being on your radar.
Just because they remember you and how you are. That’s the power of God working through you.
Not my works, God’s works are righteous and have a place in heaven.
I am that I am. I am because I know myself.
Has God finished his works? Not while a single conscious mind exists to wonder at his prodigiousness and marvel at his glory and power.

a reply to: Joneselius

posted on Nov, 29 2020 @ 04:22 PM
a reply to: Dalamax

Don't ye know that ye are Gods......

You do realize this was said because they had the ability to pass judgement right? It was a tongue in cheek statement. You do realize the one who said it also said "Before Abraham was, I am"? Of course you didn't because you're cherry picking scripture to suit your narrative.

You are NOT God, never will be, never was. You HAVE broken Gods laws and without the covering of Christ you will be judged by them and be condemned. Christ came to save YOU.

You have lied, stolen and blasphemed, lusted to, that makes you - like me - a lying, thieving, blaspheming adulterer at heart and yet here you are claiming to be God, it's disgusting.

Your worldview is perverse and I reject it entirely.

The kingdom of God is inside of you, that doesn't mean a literal place for YOU, it means that God's temple is in you! You are not God.

I'll say it again in case you missed it, you are NOT God.

posted on Nov, 29 2020 @ 04:23 PM
a reply to: Dalamax


Jesus on the cross "it is finished".

Man, oh man, you're completely lost. Repent man. You're going right off the rails.

Here you are lecturing me when you call the Bible a little pond. Blasphemy. You're of your father the Devil. Ii truly hope you repent. You don't realize how dark the place is that your track of thinking takes you to.
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posted on Nov, 29 2020 @ 04:26 PM
a reply to: primalfractal

I am the way, the truth and the Life and no man comes to the father but by me.

Jesus is the light. Without Jesus, forget it.
edit on 11/10/2012 by Joneselius because: (no reason given)

posted on Nov, 29 2020 @ 04:31 PM
How can you tell? Lol
Beware. Many will come and point the way but the path is narrow. Are you sure your not missing the exit and prancing on down the yellow brick road?
Your a self confessed liar and thief. Abasing yourself is anti christ. He punished himself so you wouldn’t have to. You spit in his face when you try to accomplish what he completed and trample his memory when you despise yourself and not the world.
Again. For your consideration.
a reply to: Joneselius

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