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A rise of two new political parties?

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posted on Nov, 24 2020 @ 12:14 PM
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Could there be a rise of two new parties?

I was browsing another site and saw a poster mention that if Trump decides to start campaigning for 2024, he's going to ruin a lot of chances for other Republicans. I agree because if nothing happens and this fraud can't be proven then I fully believe Trump will immediately begin to campaign for 2024. And why shouldn't he? He pulled in 75 million votes because he stands for America and runs an America First platform. Many leaders around the world hate that because it means we're not kowtowing to their demands and leaving open the door for them to take advantage of a weak American leadership. Donald Trump, and the party he has more or less created over the past 4 years, runs on upholding the Constitution and the law and making sure we can once again lead the world by peace through strength. This new party doesn't consist of Republicans, it consists of Democrats, Republicans, Independents, and Libertarians. It even consists of people who cared nothing about politics before 2016/18. We're made up of the Middle Class taxpayers and we have a small amount of celebrities and news on our side. Trump's crass, he's aggressive, he's a typical arrogant billionaire that hates to lose, but he's proven that he loves a strong country. He tweets too much and says some things he shouldn't say, but he also says what's on the minds of most who support him. I don't know what the party can be called, but I know it's full of people from all sides who are patriots to America and believe in upholding the law and the Constitution.

Now let's take a look at what's becoming of the former Democrat party. It, too, consists of Democrats, Republicans, Independents, Libertarians, and people who weren't interested in politics prior to 2016/18. They're made up of an impoverished class the Democrats have held down for 60 years, ultra rich celebrities, mainstream news networks that continue to cover up all of their crimes and not expose them to the world, even when there's video evidence of corruption. They hate the party we've created, with a passion, and have openly stated that they want to end jobs that make up Middle America such as mining and fracking, they continue to support high taxes and a push towards socialism, and have openly talked about changing parts of the Constitution that they don't like. Parts like the electoral college, and already censor what they don't like which violates our 1A rights, plus want to tax the hell out of our 2A rights when we purchase a firearm. They run a platform that will weaken this country, weaken the people, and will open the door to other countries taking advantage of us yet again. They believe in taking what they haven't earned by awarding trophies and victories to those who haven't put in the hard work to earn such prizes ranging from things as miniscule as a passing grade in High School to something as *formerly* revered as a Nobel Peace Prize and a Grammy or Emmy. I don't yet know what this party would be called, but I know it's full of people who are fine with amending our Constitution to their benefit, taking from us what isn't theirs, and - whether or not they see it - weakening our country to the point of ultimate failure without a single hint of possessing a backbone.

I can't be the only one who see's this unfolding before our very eyes. All you have to do is take a look around you.



posted on Nov, 24 2020 @ 12:20 PM
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Most libertarians will never join any party because they can't get in any line without thinking the line is BS. Only saying that from being a Libertarian for a long time. Most of those will pick something when their lives are actually being affected not until then.



posted on Nov, 24 2020 @ 12:21 PM
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a reply to: LSU2018

There's more than two
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posted on Nov, 24 2020 @ 12:23 PM
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Progressives vs Constitutionalists. It took 100 years but the country is divided enough once again to control it.

It has been coming for a long time. The issue is though that although the media tells you different it is the Constitutionalists who are growing in numbers. You can see it from Trumps election. He pulled more votes and minorities are sick of the pandering. The fringe and the young are all 'social action is needed' but that all goes away after elections.

If the Constitutionalists could absorb some more of the Libertarians you will have a new party that could save the country in 2022 and 2024. They are much closer that their leaders want to admit either.

If not you will have Progressives(Dems and RINO's), Constitutionalists and Libertarians.

Policy over Personality...but we have to remember this is not the party of Trump. Like he continues to say...it is the party of the people.


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posted on Nov, 24 2020 @ 12:23 PM
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a reply to: Fools

How do you know how a libertarian thinks without being one? Did you have a bad experience with some one at one point? It's impossible to label a person. Can you explain it a little more?



posted on Nov, 24 2020 @ 12:27 PM
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a reply to: Fools

It's totally not true for everyone. I donated my hard earned money to kids who need it regardless of where they live in the United States. I constantly donate money to the causes I believe in.



posted on Nov, 24 2020 @ 12:30 PM
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a reply to: LSU2018

The existing parties have moved to the extremes.

New parties should be centrist. Cautious. Deliberate. Ruled democratically rather than autocratically. Making change incrementally. Building on what works. Administrators rather than rulers.



posted on Nov, 24 2020 @ 12:34 PM
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Nice thread, I personally hope that all parties implode, disband, and never return in any way, shape, Or form. They breed corruption, group think, and divisiveness. We need to represent ourselves and not appoint somebody who claims he/she will do it for us. Those are the ones who inevitably end up corrupt.
a reply to: LSU2018





posted on Nov, 24 2020 @ 01:18 PM
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What new parties? a reply to: chr0naut



posted on Nov, 24 2020 @ 01:19 PM
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a reply to: CrazyFox

A perfect world doesn't exist. History repeats. Itself.
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posted on Nov, 24 2020 @ 01:23 PM
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originally posted by: Rekrul
a reply to: Fools

How do you know how a libertarian thinks without being one? Did you have a bad experience with some one at one point? It's impossible to label a person. Can you explain it a little more?


I havent had a bad experience at all. With any Libertarian. I just think that they are youth hearted and dont see much past their current reality.

I can take time to cut down any political belief given time. Even I am subject to stupid, we all are.



posted on Nov, 24 2020 @ 01:51 PM
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a reply to: LSU2018

It used to be North vs. South,

Now I think it might be East/West vs Midwest/South



posted on Nov, 24 2020 @ 01:53 PM
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From my perspective the Two new parties are as follows .

The Republicans are now Democrats of the early 2000's

The Democrats are now Socialist.




posted on Nov, 24 2020 @ 02:03 PM
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a reply to: Fools

I've seen "proclaimed" Libertarians supporting both sides so they were included in there. If Biden and the democrats get the power to pass what they talk about wanting to pass, a lot of Libertarians and other different party affiliates are going to be affected and have a lot in common to come together about, even more than what we have right now.



posted on Nov, 24 2020 @ 02:03 PM
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The parties can be defined as the Selfless and the Selfish. Those who value human rights, and those who value their money and care only about lowered taxes. Those who are upset by innocent people being murdered by consequence-immune authority figures, and those who are upset about an inanimate, lifeless building being burnt down. Human rights VS property rights. Civil rights vs financial rights.

The Selfless & The Selfish



posted on Nov, 24 2020 @ 02:04 PM
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originally posted by: Rekrul
a reply to: LSU2018

There's more than two


I agree, but there's still only two major parties that have been created out of this.



posted on Nov, 24 2020 @ 02:08 PM
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Trump's backbone and policy, in a time that so many had been pushed away, helped tremendously in putting this forward with a giant leap. I would never say I was the party of Trump either (lol), but I've grown to love my country and the constitution and law and order more than I ever have in the past, thanks to the left coming after everything they didn't like. And I've always been a patriot for this country.



posted on Nov, 24 2020 @ 02:10 PM
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originally posted by: Rekrul
a reply to: Fools

How do you know how a libertarian thinks without being one? Did you have a bad experience with some one at one point? It's impossible to label a person. Can you explain it a little more?


My nephew is a Libertarian, as is one of the only coworkers I discuss politics with. His biggest gripe about Trump is the Red Flag Law he let pass. But he said it's still better than Biden's all around policies.



posted on Nov, 24 2020 @ 02:12 PM
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The difference between the right & left is that the left actually cares about other people's rights as much as they care about their own.

Tread On Anyone You Want Except For Me - The Right's Motto



posted on Nov, 24 2020 @ 02:13 PM
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originally posted by: CrazyFox
Nice thread, I personally hope that all parties implode, disband, and never return in any way, shape, Or form. They breed corruption, group think, and divisiveness. We need to represent ourselves and not appoint somebody who claims he/she will do it for us. Those are the ones who inevitably end up corrupt.
a reply to: LSU2018




I would love to disband all party affiliations and let people vote based on policies. That would be the most ideal thing to do, but I don't see that ever happening. Labels are all a lot of people live by. Honestly, think about where we'd be today and great things would be if we didn't use labels.




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