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Originally posted by Seapeople
Originally posted by Herman
Seapeople, you never answered my question. Please answer it. Do you think that it's possibly for a God to exist?
Herman, yes, I have answered your question countless times, and several times in this thread.
Yes, I believe it is a possiblity for a god to exist with qulifications. It is possible for a creating force of the universe to exist. However, it is physically impossible for that creating force to have any bearing on our lives. Though, I have stated this so many times that I cant count, I will explain it to you further AGAIN if you want.
Originally posted by Seapeople
Beyond all that, there is still a difference between you and I that clearly makes me a better person.
You see, I admit in possibilities, very thought out ones at that. You do not admit in possibilities.
It is likely that no creating force exists. You would never admit that because you are a coward. And if you did, your beliefs tell you that you would go to hell. Sheep....
Originally posted by Seapeople
Joedoaks,
Well how have you been? Great. I like how I take a few days toi slow down on here and you focus your efforts on someone else. Please, refrain from calling other people aside from me arrogant. Isis does not deserve your criticism. Isis is one of the most intellegent people I have ever observed on this forum. I on the other hand am an idiot. I still claim to know more than you, rightfully so. So, take out your misguided frustrations on me.
Also, I loved how you said that you found it amazing that people were able to discuss something when they didn't know too much about it. I didn't bother quoting you, but no matter. Whats amazing, is that you come in here every day and push an unlikely story on each of us. You know, that whole man rising from the dead thing....
Simon.
Are you really this dense? Are you as stupid as you continuously prove yourself to be? I am guessing at this point the answer to that question is yes. I take that back. You may just be a liar.
In your moronic little dissertation you just gave me, you mentioned that I was an athiest. I AM NOT AN ATHIEST. Though, I would have to argue that an athiest would have to be smarter than you. What you need to do, is read into my posts a little better. Just because I disagree with morons, doesnt mean I am an athiest. It just means I am smarter than a theist such as yourself.
Learn to read. They offer classes for that these days..even for adults. Then come back and read some of my posts. I am sure you will get a better handle on them. Heck, you may even at that point understand what the smart people are talking about when they refer to your bible.
Here, I will provide you a link to my beliefs. Something that I am sure you never took the time to read before because you probably can't. I wrote this several days ago.
www.belowtopsecret.com...
Originally posted by Seapeople
Simon,
I made no such flawed statement. It isn't my fault you are foolish and you have no choice but to follow others who present themselves as smarter than you in life. I cannot help the lack of logic and reason that you were unfortuneatly born with or were just to lazy to correct. Please, do not be offended. It isn't me who did this to you. You are the one who was made a fool.
You stated something that wasn't true about me because you are too lazy to read posts in there entirety. When I pointed it out to you, you naturally were shown what you truly are. So of course you would be mad. Its ok now...count to ten. Relax...breath....... dont cry
Originally posted by Seapeople
Like I stated before, you are as I described and responded accordingly.
You see, you are fundamentally wrong in all of your beliefs. I kinda laugh when I see your words. To address your GWB response. I would first like to state some serious fundamental points. You may have felt that you knew the outcome of that election. But, it could have easily been different. You in reality, "thought" that it was likely. A probability that it would occur. Another issue that you failed to notice because of your severe lack of insight, is that you knew this to be a probability for a reason. The reason was that most people were open about choices they had already made. If you had absolutely no idea about the choices of the people that had already been made, then you would have had NO BASIS WHATSOEVER to make the assumption (and it was only an assumption) that gwb would win.
You can predict a likelyhood, but by no means can you predict with 100% certainty a choice made by a living human.
The second and last point that you made. You said, god exists at all times simultaneously. (Please note the word "exists") Lets get this clear for everyone to see. You say that we have free will, but yet you are stupid enough to then say that god exists at all times at once. You know what your idiotic assumption means? It means that YOUR FUTURE CHOICES ALSO EXIST. There cannot be another way if you believe the way you do. Not only do your choices already exist by your OWN WORDS, but the feeling of actually making a choice, is a feeling already existing right now, just not experienced by you.
To be precise, you stated that your choices DO already exist. Which, leaves no room for debate (even though you are foolish enough to try). This means, everything, every feeling, every movement, and every decision in your life has been prescripted as far as you are concerned. The feelings that you have when posed with a decision...already existed before you got to that point. You are just experienceing a path of destiny which was already written at the moment of creation. You, by your own admission, have no free will.
So, when you are sitting there thinking about what to write in response, just remember your response in its exact form already existed before you even were born. You just follow the path. No choices exist to you.
It is amazing....
Originally posted by Seapeople
Originally posted by JoeDoaks
Just as an example (poor one to be sure), people that rant about say Panda Bears. I have to ask myself how many of these people have tried to comprehend the intricacies of Pandas much less the environment that they (the Panda) abide.
This would be like me (as for instance) trying to have a discourse with an aknowledged master of all things mathematics such as your self (for instance). That would make me pretty foolish, would you agree?
[edit on 24-3-2005 by JoeDoaks]
Like I give a flying **** what you believe... You're just exhibiting common atheist misconceptions so I assumed you were one. I'm not in the least bit interested in reading about you at all, don't flatter yourself. I'm not the one lacking logic, it's you - as you proved by citing a common flawed atheist/agnostic statement..
Not only is it painfully obvious that the sage advice went unanswered it is apparent that the unrestrained and constant rantings of superiority must indeed be the result of perhaps repressed bestiality tendencies.
Originally posted by Simon_the_byron
We cannot jump forward in time, only God can.
Just because God can exist at a time where our choices have already been made does not mean that we have already made our choices, it means that God has already seen our choices.
Derren Brown can predict people's responses with 100% accuracy, but he does not create the responses, he merely reads them.
Originally posted by Seapeople
Did a christian introduce derren brown into this conversation?
Originally posted by Seapeople
Now, being omnipotent, your god has infinite power. Included in that power, is the ability to know everything. Included in everything is your future. Lets pretend for a second that I am omnipotent. This would mean that I would know the outcome of your next unmade choice. So, lets pretend you are making that choice right now. I know what you will "choose" already.
Originally posted by I_s_i_s
babloyi, in order to educate a 10 yr old in QM one has to explain it in kiddy terms. My point was that you cannot explain it to a child in an adult way.
Originally posted by I_s_i_s
Well, so, God had to follow the rules of humans when he's interacting with us. If he doesnt we wont either see it or know that interaction ever happened. What God does outside of our influence is not important. If he's all powerful he could be out there blowing up suns or creating suns or whatever he chooses to do to defy physics. Not here.
Originally posted by I_s_i_s
There are countless "sightings" of God being down here in the religious texts. So now that we established he was infact down here( according to the texts ofcourse) he chooses not to do it from up there or wherever.
He needs a form, a voice, a face( in some cases), a certain image. These things only make sense to a human. So he DOES play by our rules. He has no choice does he? If he didnt, people wouldnt know what he wants them to do next right?