Round Table network - The REAL power.

The Round Table network was created in London (the Illuminati's operational centre) in the latter years of the 19th century. Its first official "leader" was Cecil Rhodes, the man who mercilessly manipulated Southern Africa and took those lands from the black peoples.



The Round Table network consists of the Bilderberg group, the Council on Foreign Relations, the Royal Institute on International Affairs, the Trilateral Commission, the United Nations and Club of Rome. The network plays the part of the day to day manipulation of politics, banking, business, the military (especially NATO), "education", and so on. Basicly they are the people who are bringing the New World Order into this world.

The Round Table network has many groups but the main ones I will talk about.

Round Table Bilderberg Group - Formed in 1954 and meets yearly at differant locations in Europe to discuss the globalization of power agenda and the New World Order. Their powers spread globally sothis group is possibly the most powerfull of them all.

Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) - This group dictates home and foreign policy of the United States. They basicly run the U.S.

Royal Institute on International Affairs (RIIA) - This group is the UK equivilent of the CFR and does the same as the CFR except it has alot of control and influence globally.

Trilateral Commission - This group was formed in 1973 and is pretty much identicle to the others.

The United Nations (UN) - This organization is one of the many reasons they instigated World War II. This organization is planned to be the One World Government of the New World Order and when the planned NATO merge happens, will also act as the One World Military and the One World Police force to sort out any countries that refuse to fall under the command and law of the One World Government. The UN has a huge ammount of jurisdiction over participating countries and nations which is most of Europe and the U.S.

Club of Rome - This group is the innovation and technological group of the Illuminati. These guys are responsible from anything from science to technology to human genetics and stuff like that.



[edit on 17/3/2005 by Novusordo]

[edit on 17/3/2005 by Novusordo]

Originally posted by Novusordo
Round Table Bilderberg Group - Formed in 1954 and meets yearly at differant locations in Europe to discuss the globalization of power agenda and the New World Order. Their powers spread globally sothis group is possibly the most powerfull of them all.

Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) - This group dictates home and foreign policy of the United States. They basicly run the U.S.

Royal Institute on International Affairs (RIIA) - This group is the UK equivilent of the CFR and does the same as the CFR except it has alot of control and influence globally.

Trilateral Commission - This group was formed in 1973 and is pretty much identicle to the others.

The United Nations (UN) - This organization is one of the many reasons they instigated World War II. This organization is planned to be the One World Government of the New World Order and when the planned NATO merge happens, will also act as the One World Military and the One World Police force to sort out any countries that refuse to fall under the command and law of the One World Government. The UN has a huge ammount of jurisdiction over participating countries and nations which is most of Europe and the U.S.

Club of Rome - This group is the innovation and technological group of the Illuminati. These guys are responsible from anything from science to technology to human genetics and stuff like that.

How about you back up your outrageous claims with some proof?!?! Oh what's that? you don't have any? you don't even know what you're talking about? I though so.

by the way, I like this line: "The UN has a huge ammount of jurisdiction over participating countries and nations which is most of Europe and the U.S."

I thought it was obvious that the UN has no sway in the US???


[edit on 17-3-2005 by sebatwerk]

I see no place yet for the Grand Sovereign World Engineer or the Most High Reptilian Overseer.

*smells a red herring*

Originally posted by sebatwerkHow about you back up your outrageous claims with some proof?!?! Oh what's that? you don't have any? you don't even know what you're talking about? I though so.

by the way, I like this line: "The UN has a huge ammount of jurisdiction over participating countries and nations which is most of Europe and the U.S."

I thought it was obvious that the UN has no sway in the US???[edit on 17-3-2005 by sebatwerk]

WTF dude.. denying these groups exist is like denying my favorate flavour ice cream is mint chcolate chip. All of the groups in the RT network are well documented... Trilateral Commission and CoR even have websites

I say we shut off the power to the UN building, cancel all funding and support to NATO. There goes the NWO headquarters and Army in 1 fell swoop.

You people are killing me!
Europe had to start making euros to undo 100's of years of economic sterility. Left to themselves there isn't a single 1 of them that can come close to competeing and succeding in the real marketplace. Their attempt to unite under 1 currency is proof positive of their impotency and the horrendous failure of Socialism as a political/economic solution to their fiscal woes.

The redistribution of wealth through any other means other than the open marketplace is a complete and utter failure, over, and over, and over. Basic Economics, Macro and Micro, works every time!

They would still be killing each other over the Rhine and Ruhr river valleys if we had not interceded Twice, not once, in the last century. Between the Royals inbreeding and the aristocracy's complete and total ineptitude at running countries that they are supposed to serve, I'm surprised they aren't still in the Dark Ages.

There will be no adhereance to international treaties that put US troops under NATO or UN control, period. Those losers in blue helmets wear them for a reason. It's easier to snipe them that way. There will be no subjegation of American Troops to international courts either. Believe it or not, that's how it's going to be.

Iraq is the perfect answer to alot of what everybody's wondering. The willing went with us , the Wimps went home or stayed home.

Europe, the Bilderburgs, the Trilaterals, non of them has the stomach to beat the hell out of the bad guys. These folks are no more in control of what's going on than you and I. But I'm going to bet that Dubya and boys know who's butt they will be kicking next. Want to bet they haven't asked permission to continue any way they want. They are going to do what ever they want, to who ever they want, and there is not 1 thing all those punks in Europe can do about it.

Why do you think there has been all this Genuflecting and butt kissing going on in europe over this Iraq thing. They don't have the intestinal fortitude to do the job, and because of their condesending attitudes towards non-europeans they didn't believe those poor suckers in the middle east could handle being free. In short, they're idiots.

Being free, and the natural yearning to be free is an Inherent Human Trait. It is not the sole, prize possesion of the elite, People! It is a 'God-given' birthrite, not to be confused with the freedoms granted by semi-tolerant, or somewhat benevolent tyrants, kings, dictators or whatever snobbish psuedo-elites are in europe or the rest of the world.

I'm exhuasted by all the phony conspriracy, alien, elite, secret brotherhood garbage. The only conspiracy I can discern is that of the bankrupt and corrupt educational system in the US and the under-educated,(under-informed?) and over-active imaginations of lots of people I know on boards like this one and also some of my friends.

For Instance, a really close friend of mine on several occasions over many, many years has told me that the Freaking world was going to Go to H#ll in a hand basket because of everything from the Dark Comet, Pole Shifting, From HARP, to Global Warming, the Earth Tipping over, AD NAUSEIUM !!! I Love This Guy Like My Own Brother, but He Is Out Of His Freaking Mind!! If I had listened to him, I would still be in a cave at the 8000 ft. level in the Rockies eating MRE'S and winding up my radio to get the news for Christ Sake!

Let's all Take a Deep Breath for Crying Out Loud!

END OF RANT !!

Originally posted by Novusordo
WTF dude.. denying these groups exist is like denying my favorate flavour ice cream is mint chcolate chip. All of the groups in the RT network are well documented... Trilateral Commission and CoR even have websites

I want you to back up your claims as to what they do. You say, for example, that the Bilderbergs "meet in differant locations in Europe to discuss the globalization of power agenda and the New World Order". Considering that their meetings are secret, how do you know this? Where's your evidence?

How many times did (t)he(y) have to beat you, until he took you as his equal?
How many times did (t)he(y) deceive you, before you were considered worthy of the truth?

Thats not the person I know. If you can't beat 'em, join 'em?
I'd rather not.

How can you talk about THESE groups not having any power, when it was their freakin' tower that collapsed that started all this! They decide their policies in secret, and one of these policies is to have the US serve as 'God's Hammer' that destroys nations.

How many countries has the United States bombed into freedom since World War II? I don't know, four? Maybe five if you count Panama? No, wrong. There are TWENTY ONE countries (all 3rd world, and NONE with legitimate gov't at the moment) that were bombed THANKS to the USA, since WWII.
(How about someone looks into it themself, before asking for the answer handed to them, which way do you learn more?)

There's so many elitist subgroups that share membership among these Councils, Commisions, Clubs, Committees, and Crafts, one need only look at the Alfalfa Club's membership, easily found at NNDB.com
www.nndb.com...

Officially, its just another lobster and filet mignon dinner, where no visitors or press (other than the Press owners, cartoonists) are allowed, or report. But in reality, it is where politicians rub shoulders with billionaires, are told their true place. This is where the carrot is dangled, but the choice, of course, is still in the hands of the politician, its not as if they have sold their soul,

I have to say akilles, I view your argument as weak. It's just shifting the blame. And that's the problem I see with a lot of conspiracy theories regarding the NWO.
It's basically blaming others for a #ty position without blaming the real culprits - our parents and grandparents. We are responsible for creating our own societies. We are responsible for voting in our own politicians. We are responsible for the system.
Yet we never want to take responsibility. We want to blame things on others - even if we can't prove that they are involved we will still lay blame at their door. Anything but blame ourselves.

I'll give you an example. At the start of the Iraq war, something like 75% of Americans were in favor of going in to get Saddam. Now, after a year the figure has dropped to well under 50%. So you have over 25% of people running around bleating about how bad the war in Iraq is. Yet they were the same people who instigated it. They were the same people without whose support the US government could never have gone in. Now they just run around washing their hands of the situation and blame their government. Some of them don't even have the balls to do that, so they claim that their government has been manipulated by even shadier characters. It's total avoidance of responsibility.

And that's just one example. Look at the day to day running of your country (it doesn't matter where you live) and you will see hundreds of things that the man in the street thought was a "good idea at the time". He pressurised his government into doing these things, created the conditions for their thriving himself or he stood by and agreed with them as they were put into practice. But once those things started to disagree with him or even if he just plain didn't understand them, he then turns his back and washes his hands whilst laying the blame elsewhere.

How many Yanks cry "Liberty"? How many would support it throughout the world? All would claim to. And all would still claim to if every scenario was a success story. But if something goes wrong? The cry is still "Liberty" but "but they're not ready for it at the moment". It's a cowardly excuse. What gives anyone the right to decide who has the right to be free of tyranny?

It's not a case of "if you can't beat 'em join 'em". It's a case of learn from your forefather's mistakes. Educate yourself. Get involved. Educate others. Get them involved.
Accept your share of responsibility.

[edit on 18-3-2005 by Leveller]

how can you place the blame on the people?

The people are plain stupid and are manipulated.... how can the blame possibly be put on them?

Ok it is our choice on 90% of things in this world including the implementation of the New World Order but since these decisions are always hiding deep within seemingly legitimate and good ideas and policy... people never see the true meaning/s to them. Only the cover meaning.

People cant see past their own noses and are basicly stupid in every sense of the word... the blame cannot possibly put on them.

If we were asked to make the decesions in their plain and un-manipulated form then yeah... the blame could be put on us but its not like that. Every decision we make is always hidden within what looks to be good and the right choice to make.

Originally posted by sharkman
I say we shut off the power to the UN building, cancel all funding and support to NATO. There goes the NWO headquarters and Army in 1 fell swoop.

You people are killing me!
Europe had to start making euros to undo 100's of years of economic sterility. Left to themselves there isn't a single 1 of them that can come close to competeing and succeding in the real marketplace. Their attempt to unite under 1 currency is proof positive of their impotency and the horrendous failure of Socialism as a political/economic solution to their fiscal woes.

The redistribution of wealth through any other means other than the open marketplace is a complete and utter failure, over, and over, and over. Basic Economics, Macro and Micro, works every time!

They would still be killing each other over the Rhine and Ruhr river valleys if we had not interceded Twice, not once, in the last century. Between the Royals inbreeding and the aristocracy's complete and total ineptitude at running countries that they are supposed to serve, I'm surprised they aren't still in the Dark Ages.

There will be no adhereance to international treaties that put US troops under NATO or UN control, period. Those losers in blue helmets wear them for a reason. It's easier to snipe them that way. There will be no subjegation of American Troops to international courts either. Believe it or not, that's how it's going to be.

Iraq is the perfect answer to alot of what everybody's wondering. The willing went with us , the Wimps went home or stayed home.

Europe, the Bilderburgs, the Trilaterals, non of them has the stomach to beat the hell out of the bad guys. These folks are no more in control of what's going on than you and I. But I'm going to bet that Dubya and boys know who's butt they will be kicking next. Want to bet they haven't asked permission to continue any way they want. They are going to do what ever they want, to who ever they want, and there is not 1 thing all those punks in Europe can do about it.

Why do you think there has been all this Genuflecting and butt kissing going on in europe over this Iraq thing. They don't have the intestinal fortitude to do the job, and because of their condesending attitudes towards non-europeans they didn't believe those poor suckers in the middle east could handle being free. In short, they're idiots.

Being free, and the natural yearning to be free is an Inherent Human Trait. It is not the sole, prize possesion of the elite, People! It is a 'God-given' birthrite, not to be confused with the freedoms granted by semi-tolerant, or somewhat benevolent tyrants, kings, dictators or whatever snobbish psuedo-elites are in europe or the rest of the world.

I'm exhuasted by all the phony conspriracy, alien, elite, secret brotherhood garbage. The only conspiracy I can discern is that of the bankrupt and corrupt educational system in the US and the under-educated,(under-informed?) and over-active imaginations of lots of people I know on boards like this one and also some of my friends.

For Instance, a really close friend of mine on several occasions over many, many years has told me that the Freaking world was going to Go to H#ll in a hand basket because of everything from the Dark Comet, Pole Shifting, From HARP, to Global Warming, the Earth Tipping over, AD NAUSEIUM !!! I Love This Guy Like My Own Brother, but He Is Out Of His Freaking Mind!! If I had listened to him, I would still be in a cave at the 8000 ft. level in the Rockies eating MRE'S and winding up my radio to get the news for Christ Sake!

Let's all Take a Deep Breath for Crying Out Loud!

END OF RANT !!

There are two types of people who think the U.S.A is a saint and an all good-doing nation that is here to help the world.

The first type of person dosent know the half of it (this is in most cases)

And the second type is a twisted idiot that is so conditioned and brainwashed that he cannot distinguish good from bad any longer.

Besides, superpowers = evil. It has never been any differant throught history... not once in history has any superpower empire ever did anything half nice... ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS have been evil through and through and through.

America is no exception whatsoever.

As for proof on BIlderberg... google the name.

I'm sure the sheer ammount of highly detailed documentation and photos will be more than adequate to convince you of this groups existance. BTW, Tony Blair is controlled by them !

Originally posted by Novusordo
The Round Table network was created in London (the Illuminati's operational centre) in the latter years of the 19th century. Its first official "leader" was Cecil Rhodes, the man who mercilessly manipulated Southern Africa and took those lands from the black peoples.

South Africa was colonized long before Rhodes was involved. He was probably the reason for the Boer War tho (well, a reason)

WTF dude.. denying these groups exist is like denying my favorate flavour ice cream is mint chcolate chip

No one denies that they exist, what is denied is that they form an exclusive networkd. Actually, does the Round Table itself exist, or is it just an overname for the network?

I would still like to be enlightened as to how he knows the inner workings of this very secret "organization". As asked in one of the above posts, if they're so top secret, then how do you know of their sinister plans?

this is a classic example that if a lie or half-truth is told often enough, some people will take it as truth. I'd wager the original poster has been to many websites, read many books on the subject and either;

posted someone else's ideas here as fact
or
put a bunch of ideas together into the RTN idea.
I hope is the latter, at least there was some thought invlolved.



halloween78, you beat me to it. any good secret organization is, well, a secret


"One World Military and the One World Police force to sort out any countries that refuse to fall under the command and law of the One World Government. The UN has a huge ammount of jurisdiction over participating countries and nations which is most of Europe and the U.S. "

yeah, the UN stopped W from grabbing saddams oil......

so if china and russia balk, the nato-un army is gonna get 'em in line ?


[edit on 18-3-2005 by syrinx high priest]

Originally posted by HALLOWEEN78
I would still like to be enlightened as to how he knows the inner workings of this very secret "organization". As asked in one of the above posts, if they're so top secret, then how do you know of their sinister plans?

He doesn't. He makes idiotic claims time and time again without EVER providing the tiniest bit of proof or evidence. He's pretty much just making half of the stuff up, and the other half is being made up by some kooky conspiracy theory author without a girlfriend.

I walked away from a situation like this in a different section of ATS after getting down to the level of the folks who are prone to call the rest of us "twisted idiots", "sheeple", "numbskulls", and the like if we don't see it their way.

This subject is nothing new at all. Went through the same kind of stuff 30+ years ago when I was a starry eyed pup, out to save the world.

The secret groups don't show up on charts. They're waaay to smart for the likes of most of the people who post this stuff. Their control is far more subtle, and their goals are a bit less grand-glorious, openly.

Links? I have none. The secret groups are too secret.

Proof? I have none. The secret groups are too secret.

You know if I was to take this conspiracy stuff serious the only groups that come up on my radar is the IMF,(International Monetary Fund) and the World Bank. Now these guys really do pull some strings and manipulate folks, albeit in the name of uplifting the common folk and all that. But they truely do influence how countries manage their debts and control their currencies and banking systems. These guys are worth a little more scrutinity and study.

I won't dignify that your last post Novusordo.

These are the groups that are running the New World Order... no doubt about it.

The 1999 BIlderberg meeting in Lisbon was infiltrated by two British journolists and they got out with a 64 page transscript of the meeting. It can be downloaded off the P2P networks. Its called "Bilderberg secrets revealed".

When I read it, there were some pretty nasty scheming ideas they had such as creating welfare states then bringing them down leaving the people in a desperate situation so they can make them do what they want

The CFR is definately in onit since there the ones funding the creation of the Nother American Community in the name of anti-terroism.... more like centralization of powe.

These groups are definately the people behind the NWO... theres no doubt about it atall.

As for the Round Table being an actual group or just the collective name - I dont know but it could be the name of the Illuminati since if the Round Table was the central group rather than just the collective name of the network then the people within it would be the most powerfull of the powerrfull of the powerfull on the whole planet.

Originally posted by Novusordo
These are the groups that are running the New World Order... no doubt about it.

Dude, you really need to understand that I don't care what you believe in, I just care that you make a logical argument, and not just random accusations. If you have the nerve to post accusations, you BETTER have the BALLS to back them up. Otherwise, you're just a troll like the rest of them, not to be taken seriously.

I've replied several times now with requests for you to post some evidence of your claims. You've ignored me every single time and are doing nothing but repeating yourself. If I didn't know better, I'd say you were just trying to get a rise out of people.

Stop being a TROLL and POST SOME PROOF.

The 1999 BIlderberg meeting in Lisbon was infiltrated by two British journolists and they got out with a 64 page transscript of the meeting. It can be downloaded off the P2P networks. Its called "Bilderberg secrets revealed".

I don't believe you. Post a link.

When I read it, there were some pretty nasty scheming ideas they had such as creating welfare states then bringing them down leaving the people in a desperate situation so they can make them do what they want

Yeah right, I'm so sure. Just like we're all being controlled over here, right? Please. You don't have the first idea what it must take to run a country, so all you can do is go around blaming people for their flaws and accusing them of whatever suits your purpose. You're the worst kind of conspiracy theorist, because there's no logic to your arguments. There's no point in arguing with you. Your posts have absolutely no merit.

These groups are definately the people behind the NWO... theres no doubt about it atall.

But can you prove this, or you just talking out of your ass? What makes you so sure? Stop saying that there's no doubt about it and PROVE IT. What? Can't handle the challenge? You've been called out, start walking the walk.




[edit on 18-3-2005 by sebatwerk]

This thread hasnt tuaght me anything.

More please. But not of the same, facts would be nice.

But this is a conspiracy site isnt it.

err, its pretty much accepted amoungst most here that these are the main groups that are behind the NWO.

Heres an article I found on the transcript of the '99 meeting - www.davidicke.com...