MIT PhD Analysis of Michigan Votes Reveals Unfortunate Truth

a reply to: MykeNukem

There are other reasons this is nearly unprovable.

IMO, there was a rush of last minute cheating because of the turnout for Trump.

That's why they stopped counting the votes. It became clear, even with the cheating they had in place already, they were going to lose.

I think this is what will expose them. That's my CT anyway and I am sticking with it till proven otherwise.

a reply to: LookingAtMars

we will have to wait and see.

Is this the type of wait and see that’s used when people ask about Hillary being locked up?

Lots of waiting. Zilch on the seeing.

originally posted by: TerryDon79
a reply to: LookingAtMars

we will have to wait and see.

Is this the type of wait and see that’s used when people ask about Hillary being locked up?

Lots of waiting. Zilch on the seeing.

No, there are deadlines.

They better have good evidence of massive voter fraud to submit to the courts next week or I think it's over.

a reply to: LookingAtMars

or it is over.

Considering a huge majority of cases haven’t gone anywhere, I’m gonna say it now.....it’s over.

originally posted by: LookingAtMars
a reply to: MykeNukem

There are other reasons this is nearly unprovable.

IMO, there was a rush of last minute cheating because of the turnout for Trump.

That's why they stopped counting the votes. It became clear, even with the cheating they had in place already, they were going to lose.

I think this is what will expose them. That's my CT anyway and I am sticking with it till proven otherwise.

I think they cheated too.

I can't claim I have proof though...haven't seen anything provable yet, at least.

Also, I don't see a way for Trump at this point....not by litigation, anyway...

Not sure how old ya are....but it's over son.

a reply to: lakenheath24

I am not suggesting that, I am highlighting that from what I observe and the perception/ belief I have formed that our nation seems at large to be untrusting of the voting system currently installed. Then again I suppose you can't simply please everyone either.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

So far every instance of claimed fraud has been tossed.

A rather unqualified statement. Most fraud claims have yet to see the light of day, because corporate mass and social media have not allowed it. Just relax, and let the process continue its due course. The fact that thousands of votes have been switched from Trump to Biden using these machines, the fact that areas of PA broke multiple election laws (kicking out GOP observers, and extending a ballot receipt and counts w/o legislative approval), among other claims--not to mention the shenanigans that the democratic party has pulled for over the last 5 years--there is good reason to suspect foul play. In order for there to be any confidence in this system in the future, assurances must be made.

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: LookingAtMars
Also, like I said, we will have to wait and see.

How long? Seriously? I've been hearing about 4 years of swamp draining stuff and all kinds of other things about to go down and guess what? Nada. Zilch.

Time is just about up.

and you can't wait a few weeks? Do you have somewhere to be?

when did they finish the recount in Georgia and what were the results?

a reply to: timequake

Agree with you it's time to stop the talk and walk the walk.

Or as we like to say "Put up or shut up"

Now is the time to silently allow the courts to do the due process and avoid the hate festering from both sides.

originally posted by: LookingAtMars
Except this time it is real and there is proof.

You mean the proof that keeps getting thrown out of court case after court case? Surely not?

originally posted by: ChaoticOrder
It looks like this analysis is probably flawed (see video). I do believe there was fraud but it's important to acknowledge when claims of fraud are wrong otherwise it's hard to take any of the claims seriously.

We will have to see if their is a rebuttal of this by Dr. Shiva Ayyadurai. I definitely don't want to put out any misinformation. Plenty of fraud evidence. We don't want to muddy up the waters or cause a straw man lure.

originally posted by: MykeNukem
a reply to: Doctor Smith

The Voting Machines should be a main concern for both sides.

There is no way to verify if they have been altered to switch votes, other than the Images of Ballots which are either immediately deleted, or inaccessible by the Public.

The code should be Open Source...

There is no way to verify an election with these machines....

Open source? So anyone can distribute and modify the software? Does that not strike you as opening it up to even more fraudulent activity than is already alleged?

originally posted by: lakenheath24
Dude...its soooo frustrating. Dems and Repubs hate us all....til vote time.


Until a powerful, legit third party is formed....
You know the saying...there is myside, yourside....and then the truth.

We just need some goddamn truth. But peeps to scared to vote for it.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

I wish there were more folks thought like you!

a reply to: timequake

You keep saying FACT while there are no facts, merely speculation. But let's see where the investigations go, lots of dead ends so far.

Dbl

originally posted by: LookingAtMars

No, there are deadlines.

They better have good evidence of massive voter fraud to submit to the courts next week or I think it's over.

I agree 100%, have the proof of something by next week or Trump should concede.

originally posted by: djz3ro

originally posted by: MykeNukem
a reply to: Doctor Smith

The Voting Machines should be a main concern for both sides.

There is no way to verify if they have been altered to switch votes, other than the Images of Ballots which are either immediately deleted, or inaccessible by the Public.

The code should be Open Source...

There is no way to verify an election with these machines....

Open source? So anyone can distribute and modify the software? Does that not strike you as opening it up to even more fraudulent activity than is already alleged?

Everything you are communicating right this instant is done over Open Source Protocols....

Open Source can have different License types...

No I don't see a problem...

The problem arises when there is only one gatekeeper...

originally posted by: timequake
A rather unqualified statement.

No, it's completely accurate, every court case alleging fraud has been dismissed or withdrawn.

Most fraud claims have yet to see the light of day, because corporate mass and social media have not allowed it.

Er, what? How does social media prevent Trump from filing a lawsuit? Walk us through that process.

The fact that thousands of votes have been switched from Trump to Biden using these machines...

That isn't a fact, that's an unproven fantasy.

...the fact that areas of PA broke multiple election laws (kicking out GOP observers, and extending a ballot receipt and counts w/o legislative approval)...

The votes that were disqualified in Pennsylvania for coming in from the 10th to the 12th were never counted to begin with and more importantly, that isn't fraud.

originally posted by: network dude
and you can't wait a few weeks? Do you have somewhere to be?

No, I need instant gratification and I'm tired of waiting.