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originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: Edumakated
You mean like housewives and mothers?
originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: ElectricUniverse
Currently, the federal minimum wage is $7.25 an hour. Do you think that's a fair wage in this economy? Assuming that you don't, which may be an erroneous assumption, what would be a fair federal minimum wage?
originally posted by: Hypntick
a reply to: Sookiechacha
So maybe a little off topic, but I was discussing this with my wife for a bit. I've looked for studies on what the amount of restaurants per capita was even 40 years ago versus today. I know from speaking with other folks I know and my own personal experience going out to eat was reserved more for special occasions or vacation type situations. Otherwise dinner was on the table and if you didn't like it you were free to make your own.
I just wonder if at least some of the closings are a correction of oversaturation of restaurants, fast food or otherwise. I can assume the count was lower 40 years ago, and even lower still 60-80 years ago. I'm also assuming that a lot of the switch to going out more came with both members of the household working and a lack of time or energy to make a meal, I agree it's far easier to go buy something quick.
I just wonder if at least some of the closings are a correction of oversaturation of restaurants, fast food or otherwise.
I think as we all move forward Government will be providing more of this as the work force requires less and less unskilled people. There will be 30% of the population always in need of help. They will live crappy lives even with Goverment help, but that is how it goes.
The point to the IPhone and chai tea is one needs to evaluate their cost foot print first and in America many young people see their cost foot print well past what they could actually do, and so they say hey I need 15, 20, 30 bucks an hour for a living wages.
But it is still a place you can come here with nothing and not even speak the language and live well. In every case one would need to evaluate why someone is where they are at...Why are they 30 and complaining about not making 15 bucks an hour? My wife who hasn't worked in 25 years got a wild hair about getting a job as the kids grow older. The job lasted one day...lol BUT her first non-skilled job in 25 years paid 18 per hour. My kid got a part time job out of high school as a cashier and started at 14, so who knows.
originally posted by: RAY1990
Thus a universal income becomes more palatable... It'll always come down to what you take home and how much your relevant currency is worth. It's a dressing on a gaping wound. The ugliest form of trickle down economics. Almost like buying into poverty.
The same people would feel they're too good to visit a library for free Internet access. Or maybe gov doesn't fund that anymore? I lived cheap in my teens and early 20's too. I needed a phone for contact in regards to work, I needed Internet to apply for most jobs.
Any wage would've been better than my circumstances and I don't feel much difference today. I can only assume people would scoff at such predicaments if their situation wasn't all that bad. I'm thinking along the lines of parents who can and wish to be affluent within their kids lives.
I guess it all comes down to what you'll accept and how hard you'll work for it. The US is the best place for social mobility though, I have friends who have been or are held back so to speak, they're not born US citizens and yet they thrive. Then again they can tell me stories of real poverty and hardship. I think a lot of the time the prisons people find themselves in are of their own making or completely fabricated.
I was lucky in that regard, I chased education and work experience and I felt stuck. I'm not sure I could've hacked forced labour or the gov educational programs made for the unemployed. Neither had any benefit to the individual or the society, I can elaborate but I imagine you get the picture.