COVID Collateral Part 2: Effects of Lockdown on Our Women and Children

a reply to: ketsuko

I still can't make any sense of that poster's comments.

He/she's discussing Trump now?

Talk about off topic. I put hours in on the OP and this person comes in with a flippant, nonsensical one-liner to draw away from the good discussion here.
What's your position on the lockdowns, smurfy? (sources please)

originally posted by: zosimov
Talk about off topic. I put hours in on the OP and this person comes in with a flippant, nonsensical one-liner.

It shows, it's very well written and eloquent.

I think we're going to have a lost mini-generation of kids impacted by this. I can get in my car and go for a ride, theswe kids are stuck in their homes 24/7 unless their parents get them out of the house and who knows what state of mind they are in to even do this.

It's a cluster eff all the way around. Missed graduations, proms, sporting events, celebrations and just plan old social contact.

a reply to: zosimov

I don't know either.

I do know that I am dreading the prospect of what a possible Biden Administration will do to us in January. We're coming off a COVID spike and cases are dropping here and have been slowly but surely.

Son's school district has 21,000 students and their experiences since starting school have been minimal with minimal trouble. They're planning on re-integrating the upper school students back to full-time by December, and don't plan to do a district wide shutdown again unless forced to from outside.

My state's economy is humming along fairly well all things considered, but the governor here left restrictions up to locations - area by area - so the big cities locked down and for longer while more rural areas stayed more lax. But we're doing better than all but maybe four other states in the country right now.

A lock down imposed Federally ends all this unless our governor fights back on it.

I lost my office job and have been rotated to permanent contract work from home. So I have now become the yoga pants wearing, latte swilling suburban housewife (ugh!). I barely leave here unless it's to go grab coffee or exercise. I do go somewhat stir crazy, but I'm an introvert so that helps.

Son though is not at all happy. He misses tournaments. He misses normalcy at school. He has a hearing disorder, so masks make communication tough.

online only school should be considered racist.

Poor kids don't have Internet, computers, and sometimes even food.

They need back in school permanently.

originally posted by: jjkenobi
online only school should be considered racist.

Poor kids don't have Internet, computers, and sometimes even food.

They need back in school permanently.

You meant classist right? White kids are poor too.

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: zosimov
Talk about off topic. I put hours in on the OP and this person comes in with a flippant, nonsensical one-liner.

It shows, it's very well written and eloquent.

I think we're going to have a lost mini-generation of kids impacted by this. I can get in my car and go for a ride, theswe kids are stuck in their homes 24/7 unless their parents get them out of the house and who knows what state of mind they are in to even do this.

It's a cluster eff all the way around. Missed graduations, proms, sporting events, celebrations and just plan old social contact.

Thanks, friend. Hope you're well!

I completely agree that we are only seeing the tip of the iceberg of repercussions to come. And that it's the kids who will end up the most screwed.

I don't plan on timidly letting the edicts roll out.
I may need to take you up on that secret mason get out of jail free hand signal one of these days....

originally posted by: zosimov
I don't plan on timidly letting the edicts roll out.
I may need to take you up on that secret mason get out of jail free hand signal one of these days....

Meet me at the Masonic Capstone at DEN, make sure you pet Bluecifer on the way in.

a reply to: jjkenobi

It's always the neediest who suffer most.

What I can't understand is how the media has such a huge portion of the people agreeing to self imprisonment to enforcing the same on others, regardless of circumstance.

originally posted by: zosimov
a reply to: jjkenobi

It's always the neediest who suffer most.

What I can't understand is how the media has such a huge portion of the people agreeing to self imprisonment to enforcing the same on others, regardless of circumstance.

Because there are so many people who believe that they can't be saved unless everyone is, and that means everyone has to be forced to do what they do to save themselves. It's a collective salvation mindset, and it goes along with the idea of socialism. You can also look up pathological altruism too.

Pathological altruism can be conceived as behavior in which attempts to promote the welfare of another, or others, results instead in harm that an external observer would conclude was reasonably foreseeable.

a reply to: ketsuko

Yes, I do believe you're on to something.

I'll look into these.

Report today about how lockdown is impacting on children's mental health and educational development

Children regressing and struggling mentally in lockdown, says Ofsted

Some younger ones forgetting basic skills, and older children losing fitness and reading ability

www.theguardian.com...

(Ofsted is UK schools and education regulator/watchdog)

The levels of state induced childhood adversity will produce at least 2 generations of seriously damaged children.

This is a global problem that has nothing to do with the political landscape in any individual or sovereign nation.

a reply to: teapot

There is good evidence to suggest that children have the least fear from COVID, so there is no reason to keep them locked up. And adults working with children are at very little risk of catching COVID from them, so teachers generally are going to find teaching to kids to be the least risky part of their day.

Keeping children locked down is no help to anyone, and therefore, using lock downs against children is nothing more than an empty control ploy no matter where it's employed.

originally posted by: teapot
Report today about how lockdown is impacting on children's mental health and educational development

Children regressing and struggling mentally in lockdown, says Ofsted

Some younger ones forgetting basic skills, and older children losing fitness and reading ability

www.theguardian.com...

(Ofsted is UK schools and education regulator/watchdog)

The levels of state induced childhood adversity will produce at least 2 generations of seriously damaged children.

This is a global problem that has nothing to do with the political landscape in any individual or sovereign nation.

Thank you for posting this--it's a good article and it's nice to see some media attention on the issue.

Sadly, I think you may be right regarding the younger generations, although I don't think the damage is completely irreparable--yet (the already disadvantaged have suffered far greater damage, though). Not sure how much time we have to change the people's overall impression of/compliance to lockdown orders, but I'm sure the #1 key to doing so is to depoliticize the issue.

Two years later and the media's finally come around to admitting this.