I don't like this 'teach debate' one bit. 'level the playing field'
Hogwash I say.
Debates may win arguments but they have NEVER led to the truth. Questions lead to the truth. I remember when I was in high school (long ago) the
teacher of some class I can't remember now also was the sponsor for the debate team. She invited me to join the debate team and learn 'proper'
Well I thought that was great. I went to a couple meetings. The others at the meetings were geeks- I was cool (it was long ago). The teacher
assigned topics. I looked at mine and told her I didn't like it and wanted another. She told me - - - -
That's what debate is. It is a skill-set to manipulate others. Just like counseling. While working on my MS I also worked the Helpline. I was
charged- I had a knack, I could help people see their own problems. Night after night the calls came in. After a few weeks, of turning in the
reports every morning on my way to work, I realized all I was doing was facilitating. Whatever it takes to get 'them' from point A to point B. I
This is what you seem to be getting at sofi
and I disagree with it. I have read juvenile gibberish on this board that held a pearl of
enlightenment. I have also read well versed rhetoric that was nothing more than propaganda.
Who wins? Truth surely doesn't under your view. Now granted i may have misread you- as I often do, but from where I'm at now
on your plan.
I would rather read junk with a little meat than dine on 5 star tofu.
questions (all who care- I like sofi
re: Lloyds of London
sofi says: Not tracking here. ...? What do you mean?
I posted the Lloyds expose' in the hopes others would jump up and shout. No one did. You saw it as part of a growing problem, as do I. I also see
it as more proof of a master conspiracy.
(side note- in ATS another thread
I point out why I think it will backfire
Re: Jo Stalin and voting
sofi says: Don't see how you draw that parallel. It's not about voting
BUT it is. Approvals are voting by another name. When we discriminate against the unlearned we have assumed not only arrogance but are dancing with
the bride of ignorance. Who decides? Is there a grade level? How about non-English speakers that struggle just to post:
'das nut su- t gormnt - - -'
Who speaks up for these people? Who translates so they can 'debate' better?
RE: . . .like some but not this
sofi says: Okay, but tell me why, please.
Much of what goes on is not 'debate.' Much is more like mini-position statements. Lots of the time new information is shared and new thought
emerges, but debates? There is a forum just for debating.
Finally- from two threads the truth emerges pregnant in its understatement:
If we are to acknowledge that the polarization of issues has been a systematic strategy, we have to learn to stop the knee-jerk reactions to "the
This is a far deeper issue than any feature or posting strategy can solve here on ATS
Talk conspiracy (and this guy doesn't believe in space aliens, hah). This is believable. I have no doubt and don't require proof. Sometimes life
Don't forget linguistic