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Voter Turnout Is Going To Be Massive, & Not Due To Fraud (My personal Exp. As An AZ Dem)

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posted on Nov, 1 2020 @ 12:35 PM
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originally posted by: onthedownlow
a reply to: Lucidparadox

Sinema was losing on election night, she won 3 or 4 days later on provisional ballots. Almost every California transplant I meet is Republican, they escaped the liberal plantation. I am confident that Trump will carry Arizona. The idea that Clinton had low turnout is silly... freaking Glenn Beck endorsed Clinton 3 days before the election. People are pissed by what the left has been pulling, i expect the numbers will show our displeasure



I’m a California transplant.

I know many more who are anti-Trump.
edit on 1-11-2020 by Annee because: (no reason given)




posted on Nov, 1 2020 @ 12:36 PM
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originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: onthedownlow
a reply to: Lucidparadox

Sinema was losing on election night, she won 3 or 4 days later on provisional ballots. Almost every California transplant I meet is Republican, they escaped the liberal plantation. I am confident that Trump will carry Arizona. The idea that Clinton had low turnout is silly... freaking Glenn Beck endorsed Clinton 3 days before the election. People are pissed by what the left has been pulling, i expect the numbers will show our displeasure



I’m a California transplant.

I now many more who are anti-Trump.


Why did you leave CA?



posted on Nov, 1 2020 @ 12:38 PM
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Not one single Trump-voter from 2016 is going to vote dEmocrat this time around

Not


One


Those who have switched from dEm to Trump however.............

Landslide incoming losers

(And there IS NO pandemic, it’s fake, get out and vote in person)
edit on 1 11 2020 by Breakthestreak because: (no reason given)



posted on Nov, 1 2020 @ 12:39 PM
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originally posted by: Lucidparadox
If the party is as focused in other places as they are here in AZ... We may see the highest Dem turnout ever.

Not to mention how easy they have made voting this time around.




Lots of people from CA moving to places like AZ and TX, so who knows on how these states go as literals poor in to other states as their liberal state is failing and they continue to vote liberal...lol you can't make this crap up...

BTW are you happy with the far left direction your liberal party is going?



posted on Nov, 1 2020 @ 12:40 PM
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a reply to: Breakthestreak

I think this is lost on most.

Trump hasn't lost any supporters and he won in 2016. He has only added to his base in a very large way, some because they finally saw through the lefts BS, and some because they saw Bernie get kicked again.



posted on Nov, 1 2020 @ 12:41 PM
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originally posted by: Vasa Croe
a reply to: Breakthestreak

I think this is lost on most.

Trump hasn't lost any supporters and he won in 2016. He has only added to his base in a very large way, some because they finally saw through the lefts BS, and some because they saw Bernie get kicked again.


Oh I think EVERY leftist knows this very well

It’s just so devastating for them that they have to construct a false reality in their fragile minds

Trump has lost ZERO supporters in the last four years



posted on Nov, 1 2020 @ 12:44 PM
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originally posted by: Vasa Croe

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: onthedownlow
a reply to: Lucidparadox

Sinema was losing on election night, she won 3 or 4 days later on provisional ballots. Almost every California transplant I meet is Republican, they escaped the liberal plantation. I am confident that Trump will carry Arizona. The idea that Clinton had low turnout is silly... freaking Glenn Beck endorsed Clinton 3 days before the election. People are pissed by what the left has been pulling, i expect the numbers will show our displeasure



I’m a California transplant.

I now many more who are anti-Trump.


Why did you leave CA?


We went to help my husband’s uncle do some work on his house.

I opened the truck door, put one foot on the ground and said: “We’re moving here, you’re opening a computer business”.

Within 3 months we left our jobs, bought a house, and opened a computer store.

I’m atheist. I do not believe in Devine providence. BUT, there is something beyond what we know.



posted on Nov, 1 2020 @ 12:49 PM
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originally posted by: Breakthestreak
Not one single Trump-voter from 2016 is going to vote dEmocrat this time around

Not


One


Those who have switched from dEm to Trump however.............

Landslide incoming losers

(And there IS NO pandemic, it’s fake, get out and vote in person)


To claim Trump hasn’t lost any voters — is ridiculous, wishful thinking.

And COVID is real.



posted on Nov, 1 2020 @ 12:49 PM
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a reply to: Lucidparadox
Guns are already over regulated. Adding things like mandatory insurance, psychological evaluations and testing sites/staff and the costs start ballooning fast. People that are working low paying jobs can barely afford to buy one as it is, let alone the costs of ammunition and range time.

My health insurance is $400 a month and I'm as healthy as a 35 year old person can be. My parents pay $1400 a month for theirs. It's going to cost a LOT more than $210 a month per person for universal health care.

The European version of health care is cheaper because their medical professionals earn a lot less than here. Doctors don't even make 100k in those countries. I know nurses making over 100k here. A friend of mine is an anesthesiologist that makes 350k+ and he only works 3 days a week. It's not like that in the rest of the world.

My job is physically demanding, often dangerous, and average pay is 50k a year before taxes. If the government is going to provide a safety net of food, shelter, and health care I would quit working today, the same as everyone else who does what I do. Why work 40+ hours a week for those things if I can get it for free?

The pie in the sky ideal world you're looking for just isn't possible.



posted on Nov, 1 2020 @ 12:52 PM
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If any thing turned me against trump even More its what Poster's here post calling half teh country commies saying 70 milion people should be shot as Traitors .
Says in so many threads Now If trump loses they will start a civil war over it .
The poster's here Reflect trumps attitude .

And that is The Biggest reason to get Trump out . Biden wont fix any thing but alest there will still be a country for the NeXT president to fix 4 years later .

Honestly the way The right talks on this site I wo9ndeer f there will be a country come December .
the fastest way to a full blown dictator sip is staring civil unrest over Trump as martial law is declared really the right Must want a dictator ship the most .



posted on Nov, 1 2020 @ 12:53 PM
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a reply to: SouthernForkway26

Most of the current offered healthcare options are between $300 & $400 a month.

Of course, if you want more coverage, that is available.



posted on Nov, 1 2020 @ 12:55 PM
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originally posted by: midnightstar

Says in so many threads Now If trump loses they will start a civil war over it .


I challenge you to provide one citation of your claim.



posted on Nov, 1 2020 @ 01:00 PM
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originally posted by: Annee
I’m an AZ DEM also and agree with everything you’ve said.

I support & admire their efforts. Trump has his big flashy circus — but, Dems are working diligently behind the scene — safely during a pandemic environment.

Many right wingers voted against Hillary — many Dems were complacent (thinking Hillary had it in the bag) — and many butt-hurt Bernie supporters refused to vote for Hillary.

Trump is more the result of complacency & refusing to support the Dem candidate than anything else.

The reverse is happening now.

Complacency will not be the winner this time.




If you’re wrong, will you come back and admit it?



posted on Nov, 1 2020 @ 01:00 PM
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originally posted by: panoz77
a reply to: Lucidparadox


If you think these "centrists" or middle of the ground voters are going to side with overt socialism, ending fossil fuels, immediate citizenship of illegal immigrants, rioting, looting and arson, you are fatally wrong. Those are only a few reasons why Trump will win in a LANDSLIDE.



It's comments like this that feed division. Neither of the candidates are offering overt socialism, ending fossil fuels, or granting mass citizenship status. So the only reasons to even raise these topics is to try to provoke anger one side or the other.

I've lived in enough countries with governments that range from aspiring socialist to hard line socialist, and Bidden doesn't even come close to the weakest of them. He's a middle of the road capitalist who offers a few touches of social welfare, but not much beyond that. He's also for efficient fossil fuel use rather because he knows that the technology to actually end it isn't there. And he seems to be more interested in giving people visa than making them citizens.

Swing voters who aren't part of a party base are usually interested in the issues. such as Covid, taxation and economic policies. Things that made a difference in their every day lives. Most people don't want actual socialism, because most people don't want the tax increases that would come with it. Which is why Democrats selected Bidden rather than Sanders at the primaries.

If Democrats were actually interested in socialism, AOC would be campaigning right now.



posted on Nov, 1 2020 @ 01:02 PM
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originally posted by: Annee
a reply to: SouthernForkway26

Most of the current offered healthcare options are between $300 & $400 a month.

Of course, if you want more coverage, that is available.





The problem is that you don't get very much for your money as everything is so expensive. In Europe $300 a month would get you a gold plated plan that most Americans could only dream of because the base price is lower.



posted on Nov, 1 2020 @ 01:07 PM
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originally posted by: midnightstar
If any thing turned me against trump even More its what Poster's here post calling half teh country commies saying 70 milion people should be shot as Traitors .
Says in so many threads Now If trump loses they will start a civil war over it .
The poster's here Reflect trumps attitude .

And that is The Biggest reason to get Trump out . Biden wont fix any thing but alest there will still be a country for the NeXT president to fix 4 years later .

Honestly the way The right talks on this site I wo9ndeer f there will be a country come December .
the fastest way to a full blown dictator sip is staring civil unrest over Trump as martial law is declared really the right Must want a dictator ship the most .


The thing the Right refuses to see is — they are the party of Control & Order.

They’re clueless what personal responsibility means — in their thinking.

It means “Be Like Me”. They put themselves on a pedestal of how everyone is supposed to think and act.

Anyone who “colors outside the lines” of their acceptable Control & Order goes into the Catch-All bucket call Left.

The Right is the real Fascists. But, they wear rose colored glasses.



posted on Nov, 1 2020 @ 01:14 PM
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originally posted by: AaarghZombies

originally posted by: Annee
a reply to: SouthernForkway26

Most of the current offered healthcare options are between $300 & $400 a month.

Of course, if you want more coverage, that is available.





The problem is that you don't get very much for your money as everything is so expensive. In Europe $300 a month would get you a gold plated plan that most Americans could only dream of because the base price is lower.


True.

Obamacare was passed only with what they could get through. It was known it needed more work.

Committees from Right & Left should have worked on it to make it what it needed to fully be.

But, the Right internationally blocked anything/everything.



posted on Nov, 1 2020 @ 01:17 PM
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originally posted by: mtnshredder

originally posted by: Annee
I’m an AZ DEM also and agree with everything you’ve said.

I support & admire their efforts. Trump has his big flashy circus — but, Dems are working diligently behind the scene — safely during a pandemic environment.

Many right wingers voted against Hillary — many Dems were complacent (thinking Hillary had it in the bag) — and many butt-hurt Bernie supporters refused to vote for Hillary.

Trump is more the result of complacency & refusing to support the Dem candidate than anything else.

The reverse is happening now.

Complacency will not be the winner this time.




If you’re wrong, will you come back and admit it?


I’ve already said (in another thread) this election is a complete toss up.

That doesn’t change what I said here.

Will I come back? I’m rarely here now. I feel like I lose brain cells every time I come here.


edit on 1-11-2020 by Annee because: (no reason given)



posted on Nov, 1 2020 @ 01:22 PM
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a reply to: Annee

Doesn't personal responsibility include paying for your own stuff and working hard to do so?

The left promises all kinds of free stuff....and that stuff isn't free. I dont want to pay for some other lazy bums crap.

Please point me to a large republican controlled city where tents and feces and needles littler the sidewalks. All because free stuff and no order......I can point out numerous left run cities.



posted on Nov, 1 2020 @ 01:23 PM
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originally posted by: Annee
Will I come back? I’m rarely here now. I feel like I lose brain cells every time I come here.



lulz, rarely?

post history says otherwise.


Everyone feels the same when they read your post.

edit on 1-11-2020 by Lysergic because: (no reason given)




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