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posted on Oct, 19 2020 @ 11:32 PM
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I'm seeing a lot of high profile individuals claiming the Biden laptop leaks are part of a Russian disinfo campaign and it reminds me a lot of the DNC hack which happened prior to the 2016 elections. First of all, it's very clear at this point the laptop is real, that was obvious to me from the moment I listened to interviews with Giulianni and how he claimed to acquire the laptop.

Even if he is lying about where he got it, I don't really care, what I care about is whether or not the information is true. Same thing with the DNC leaks, I don't care who the messenger is, I just care that people are held responsible for the crimes they commit, and I'm pretty sure most people feel the exact same way if they have a conscious.

It is absolutely laughable to blame the Kremlin without any proof what so ever. Even if Russia is behind it, which I highly doubt because Giulianni claims to have proof that Hunter attempted to get the laptop back from the computer shop, it's not wrong to expose fraud. I'm still skeptical of the child abuse claims because I haven't seen Giulianni mention it, but if that proves to be true Biden is finished.

Quite frankly he should already be finished based on the dealings described in the emails, yet the MSM would still have you believe Biden is leading in the polls. If Biden is elected it will be the result of relentless propaganda over a period of 4 years. People have been convinced they need to vote for anyone but Trump regardless of how brain-dead or corrupt that person is.

Dems love to deflect blame to everyone but themselves, rather than admit any sort of wrongdoing and apologize for it, they say these clearly real leaks don't matter because they were released by Russia. I don't give a damn if the leaks came from extraterrestrials, and the only people who buy into that excuse are wearing political blinders or just liars.
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posted on Oct, 19 2020 @ 11:37 PM
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Bravo!!! It's what i've been posting for days now. It's like just the word Russia and the story is supposed to magically disappear and it's laughable that some media outlets were saying this the day after the story broke before anyone knew what was what. How many more years will Russia be the boogeyman that is responsible for anything bad that comes out or happens to the Democrats?



posted on Oct, 19 2020 @ 11:44 PM
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a reply to: ChaoticOrder

Director of National Intelligence John Ratcliffe says that Hunter Biden's laptop is NOT part of a Russian disinformation campaign but says it IS in the hands of the FBI

www.dailymail.co.uk...



Not to mention, notice how "Nobody" from the Biden campaign is stating it is not real. They can't.



posted on Oct, 19 2020 @ 11:51 PM
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a reply to: infolurker

Is this the same John Ratcliffe that relies on Russian Intelligence itself to confirm conspiracy theories against various Trump political opponents?

Intel chief John Ratcliffe releases Russian disinfo on Hillary Clinton that was rejected by bipartisan Senate panel


Director of National Intelligence John Ratcliffe on Tuesday declassified a Russian intelligence assessment that was previously rejected by Democrats and Republicans on the Senate Intelligence Committee as having no factual basis, according to two sources familiar with the matter.

The extraordinary disclosure, released to Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) earlier Tuesday, rankled Democrats, who said the move effectively put Russian disinformation into the public sphere in order to boost President Donald Trump’s unsubstantiated claims about the government’s efforts to investigate Russian interference in the 2016 election.


Oh sure, he'd know if it was from Russia. He relies on them to feed him claims, after all.



posted on Oct, 19 2020 @ 11:53 PM
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a reply to: Southern Guardian

Again,

Do you see the Biden campaign stating that it is false?



posted on Oct, 20 2020 @ 12:02 AM
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a reply to: infolurker

....and again, Trump's own appointed intel Chief referred to a Russian Intelligence Sourced claim to discredit Hillary Clinton. Now you're referring to him as a viable source?

Is this how low rightwingers have stooped to now? Sourcing foreign adversaries against Democrats??


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posted on Oct, 20 2020 @ 12:03 AM
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a reply to: ChaoticOrder

My guess is there is some Russian activity to sway public opinion, though they seem to be playing all sides to maximize disruption.

They're not the only international player though, and I'd bet China has far more money, malice, and espionage activity.

And if we're going to espouse that we're the bastion of freedom and the savior of man, China seems to be a larger threat to all those things.

Hell, Russia might be more of an ally in the future. They are closer to western values than China.



posted on Oct, 20 2020 @ 12:15 AM
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originally posted by: Southern Guardian
a reply to: infolurker

....and again, Trump's own appointed intel Chief referred to a Russian Intelligence Sourced claim to discredit Hillary Clinton. Now you're referring to him as a viable source?

Is this how low rightwingers have stooped to now? Sourcing foreign adversaries against Democrats??



So what you are accusing Ratcliffe of is the same thing as what Hillary and the Dems tried to do Trump in 2016?
But you looked the other way then didn’t you?



posted on Oct, 20 2020 @ 12:17 AM
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a reply to: RazorV66


So what you are accusing Ratcliffe


I'm not accusing Ratcliffe of using Russian Intelligence disinfo to discredit Hillary Clinton. He himself admitted it was a Russian sourced assessment, which was subsequently discredited by the bi-partisan Senate Intelligence Board.

Jesus man, view the link.



posted on Oct, 20 2020 @ 12:18 AM
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originally posted by: Southern Guardian

Oh sure, he'd know if it was from Russia. He relies on them to feed him claims, after all.


Lol dude where you been the last 3+ years with the FBI/Obama/Hillary/DNC/House...and you really going to say this with a straight face?



posted on Oct, 20 2020 @ 12:18 AM
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a reply to: Southern Guardian

Two words: “Steele Dossier”



posted on Oct, 20 2020 @ 12:20 AM
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a reply to: Xtrozero


Lol dude where you been the last 3+ years with the FBI/Obama/Hillary/DNC/House..


And this does nothing to change the fact Ratcliffe sourced discredited Russian Intelligence to smear a Democratic opponent of Trump.



posted on Oct, 20 2020 @ 12:22 AM
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originally posted by: Southern Guardian
a reply to: Xtrozero


Lol dude where you been the last 3+ years with the FBI/Obama/Hillary/DNC/House..


And this does nothing to change the fact Ratcliffe sourced discredited Russian Intelligence to smear a Democratic opponent of Trump.


Again...exactly what Hillary and the Dems did.
Maybe one day your brainwashing will wear off, but I doubt it.



posted on Oct, 20 2020 @ 12:24 AM
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posted on Oct, 20 2020 @ 12:25 AM
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originally posted by: Southern Guardian

And this does nothing to change the fact Ratcliffe sourced discredited Russian Intelligence to smear a Democratic opponent of Trump.


AND your point does nothing to change any of this Biden/Hunter thing as not being true 100%. The left does this crap all the time...With their but but but what about.... instead of proving the current event is false they will say, but Trump is bad so that makes this false, or in your case Ratcliffe is bad so that is proof Biden didn't do anything wrong.

Stop with the hyperbole and let the facts take us where they lead...


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posted on Oct, 20 2020 @ 12:33 AM
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AND your point does nothing to change any of this Biden/Hunter thing is not true 100%


100% hey?

You'd be 100% convinced if Trump claimed a turd was made out of gold.

AP Explains: Trump seizes on dubious Biden-Ukraine story

This story was dead on arrival. Pretending it's anything other is just delusional. It was so bad the NyPo author of the article refused to put his full name to it in fear of embarrassment.

Fox News rejected Hunter Biden exposé; New York Post writer refused to put his name on it: reports

Old tricks don't last after all.


edit on 20-10-2020 by Southern Guardian because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 20 2020 @ 12:37 AM
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a reply to: Southern Guardian

“There are none so blind as those who refuse to see”
Unknown

Maybe me.lol



posted on Oct, 20 2020 @ 03:17 AM
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Absolutely hilarious from 50 FORMER 'intelligence' officials... including Clapper & Brennan - the same people who brought us the infamous '18 intelligence agencies agree' snip..



We want to emphasize that we do not know if the emails, provided to the New York Post by President Trump’s personal attorney Rudy Giuliani, are genuine or not and that we do not have evidence of Russian involvement — just that our experience makes us deeply suspicious that the Russian government played a significant role in this case.





posted on Oct, 20 2020 @ 03:21 AM
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originally posted by: Southern Guardian
a reply to: Xtrozero


AND your point does nothing to change any of this Biden/Hunter thing is not true 100%


100% hey?

You'd be 100% convinced if Trump claimed a turd was made out of gold.

AP Explains: Trump seizes on dubious Biden-Ukraine story

This story was dead on arrival. Pretending it's anything other is just delusional. It was so bad the NyPo author of the article refused to put his full name to it in fear of embarrassment.

Fox News rejected Hunter Biden exposé; New York Post writer refused to put his name on it: reports

Old tricks don't last after all.



Give it up, fella. You have no credibility on this subject given your endless threads at even the slightest rumour or accusation against Trump.

The laptop emails are no longer the only emails. Hunters ex business partner has also flipped and provided access to his email account.
As pointed out above - former intelligence officials like Brennan have admitted that they have zero evidence to suggest that this is Russian disinfo...just as Ratcliffe pointed out.

How this turns out is yet to be known, but we know with 100% certainty that Ratcliffe was telling the truth.



posted on Oct, 20 2020 @ 05:02 AM
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OooooOOOOOOooo....

Those nasty pinko commie Russians....

Get a grip Yanks... The old fashioned Cold war is over.

Look inside your country to find the enemy instead of desperatly looking for an outsider such as Russia, China etc...

STOP looking for a BOGEYMAN. .

Stop PLAYING the victims...

Grow a pair... Especially Southern Guardian...

Lags
edit on 20-10-2020 by Lagomorphe because: You will gros up one day SG.




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