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Topic started on 16-3-2005 @ 10:23 PM by VisionWithin
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Considering that until the late 19th century, communication was either oral (all classes), written (books and scrolls - the wealthy and the Church),
or communicated through art (including stone writing, go way back), it’s a wonder we know as much as we do about our ancestors. Books, newspapers,
BBS’s, and finally the Internet allowed the transfer of facts and ideas to travel across state, country and ocean.
The amount of data we have today, about our world, the people in it, and our history, is both wonderful, but can also be overwhelming.
With technology growing faster then a den of amorous rabbits, it’s possible to believe that our own history, now, will be documented in ways none of
our past has ever been able to accomplish.
Will this change the way we are remembered in a thousand years? Two thousand years? Will the future people of earth be able to better understand the
time we live in now, because of what we will leave behind?
And perhaps most importantly, what kind of information should we really focus on, in order to help humanity in the future?
Please notice I left out any and all references to the alien angle, as well as the fact we might not be here. I’m trying to be positive tonight, and
I hope the responses to this post are equally biased
-VW
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reply posted on 16-3-2005 @ 10:43 PM by sturod84
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well whether or not our technology was attained through ahem certain extra terrestrial means is irrelevent. more so the fact that our technology is
expanding so rapidly that i think it has caught the majority of the human race off guard. growing up the computers i used had green blinky moniters
with sqaure pixels, and now computers retain more information the human brain can even begin to comprehend. we are advancing exponetially. the limit
to our achievments will adhere to our own determinaiton and desire.
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reply posted on 18-3-2005 @ 03:05 PM by ZetaGundam007
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ney, it the contrary will occur.
A few may become the technological elite, but many will just be distracted by their ipods, their xboxes, and they alienwares.
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reply posted on 18-3-2005 @ 03:12 PM by sturod84
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tottally agreed, technologie developes are strengths but at the same time exploits our weakness. be wary, understand your cause.
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reply posted on 18-3-2005 @ 07:06 PM by VisionWithin
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In my original post I was asking if our planet would know more about our CURRENT time, because of the internet and other kinds of technology, in a
thousand years or so. More so then what we know today, of our past history.:
"Will this change the way we are remembered in a thousand years? Two thousand years? Will the future people of earth be able to better understand
the time we live in now, because of what we will leave behind?
With technology growing faster then a den of amorous rabbits, it’s possible to believe that our own history, now, will be documented in ways none of
our past has ever been able to accomplish."
I'm sorry if I wasn't clear about that to start with.
-VW
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reply posted on 18-3-2005 @ 11:47 PM by DragonsDemesne
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Given the massive amounts of books, newspapers, and computers that we have, people in a thousand years should have a very good idea of what our
present time is like. That is assuming that we don't do something stupid, like WWIII, to wreck it all. Basically, providing our infrastructure
remains intact, I think we will have a good picture of our time in a thousand years.
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reply posted on 19-3-2005 @ 12:28 PM by Qraz A.K.A. MIlfort
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WHat i fear about what technology will do is how secluded it is. Very few people know in detail how things work. Many of us have the concepts behind
like the television. R bg beams and electromagnets and stuff. But we don't know exactly how it works enough to recreate it.
It's some kind of conspiracy waiting to happen. A few people control technology. They could easily do something with it.
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reply posted on 20-3-2005 @ 11:39 AM by VisionWithin
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Originally posted by Qraz A.K.A. MIlfort
WHat i fear about what technology will do is how secluded it is. Very few people know in detail how things work. Many of us have the concepts behind
like the television. R bg beams and electromagnets and stuff. But we don't know exactly how it works enough to recreate it.
It's some kind of conspiracy waiting to happen. A few people control technology. They could easily do something with it. 
Doh! And here I was trying to be positive. However, you have a point. I can certainly theorize that now, unlike 1-2 thousand years ago, we are more
censored then ever before. In my original post I stated this question:
"And perhaps most importantly, what kind of information should we really focus on, in order to help humanity in the future?"
Alas, we probably don't have any say in what information will be retained. Our government is so keen to cover up aliens, their own mistakes, and
just about everything else. They certainly are not going to want people in 4005 to know what the world is up to, now.
-VW
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reply posted on 20-3-2005 @ 12:35 PM by Nygdan
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Indeed, its often lamented by historians and archaeologists that they have no data direct from the lower classes. The illiterates who made up much of
the worlds various societies have left very little of what they thought. Now, practically everyone is leaving vast volumes of their thoughts and
lives all over the place. This means that the ability to the understand society and history of this century is going to be greatly increased for
future archaeologists and historians.
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reply posted on 20-3-2005 @ 02:59 PM by VisionWithin
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 Originally posted by Nygdan
Indeed, its often lamented by historians and archaeologists that they have no data direct from the lower classes. The illiterates who made up much of
the worlds various societies have left very little of what they thought. Now, practically everyone is leaving vast volumes of their thoughts and
lives all over the place. This means that the ability to the understand society and history of this century is going to be greatly increased for
future archaeologists and historians. 
Assuming that more of our global lives are documented, and such data is obtainable to those in our future, can we assume future historians will
understand what they are viewing?
I ask this because we have so much historical data, but the older it is, the less we can sometimes understand it.
I would agree lower class people who might have had data to add were not part of this equation. But what if they were? Would these illiterate people
have been able to document facts in ways that would be helpful now?
Millions around the world contribute to the vast system known as the Internet. Books continue to be written, on every topic possible. Scientific data
continues to be recorded.
As many ATS regulars know, the content on the Internet isn’t always factual, well written, or researched.
This brings to mind something that I’ve been mulling over recently. A database containing everything we, as humans, know. An impossible task? The
Internet could be viewed in this light, but I’m not sure that’s for the best.
The only way I can see future historians being able to understand our current time fully, would be if they were able to access all printed and
electronic media that we have today (that’s including all the databases the museums keep, etc.), and somehow “throw” it all into a tech system
that would cross reference to the ‘nth degree.
That’s just my two cent’s.
-VW
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reply posted on 23-3-2005 @ 06:09 PM by ZetaGundam007
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the problem is redundancy. the problem of the middle/dark ages was the lack of books describing the dark arts of mathmatics and science. with nothing
to refer too, the age's scientists needed to relearn everything from scratch.
to prevent this, We need a permanent global library of information. Books, digitial items and all the power sources to run them. Should a disaster
occur, we need a way to quickly relearn.
Of course, people tend not to plan for the worst case sceneario when they can spend money on more pressing issues, which is perfectly reasonable, but
still.
Who's with me?
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reply posted on 23-3-2005 @ 06:39 PM by VisionWithin
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 Originally posted by ZetaGundam007
the problem is redundancy. the problem of the middle/dark ages was the lack of books describing the dark arts of mathmatics and science. with nothing
to refer too, the age's scientists needed to relearn everything from scratch. 
I'm wondering if you meant "relearn" because they used to know, or for some other reason? Can you explain?
to prevent this, We need a permanent global library of information. Books, digitial items and all the power sources to run them. Should a disaster
occur, we need a way to quickly relearn.

I agree. Not only with your statement that this appears an impossible task because we are too "busy", but that it's the only way. Alas, we are
not sure if our CD's will work in 100 years, and so on.
I'm not even sure we have a sure way of documenting everything we should, in any way that would be "still work" in even 1,000 years, let alone
3,000. And, should something happen to us, what can we possible save?
If this wasn't such an impossible task, it would have already been done. (I belive we have been in this situation before.) Oral history can only go
so far, and isn't much for proving anything. I don't mind if we "highjack" this thread, as I'd love to discuss how we could save what we know,
in a way it would last for thousands of years to come.
Any takers?
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reply posted on 25-3-2005 @ 07:42 PM by ZetaGundam007
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by "relearn" i mean to learn what mankind had once thouroughly studied. mankind as a whole needed to go back and do all the research by hand, at
least the Europeans did. As far as i know muslim societies did not experiance a "dark age" because they had access to many of the original greek
texts refering to topics of geometry, cartography, and philosophy
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