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TRUMP LANDSLIDE: Data From Trump Rally Spells Doom for Joe Biden and Democrat-Socialists

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posted on Oct, 16 2020 @ 12:04 AM
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a reply to: infolurker

Heads are exploding around America, it might even clean up the dem led cities on its own. Great thread and data!
edit on 16-10-2020 by LSU2018 because: (no reason given)




posted on Oct, 16 2020 @ 12:07 AM
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"Data". Is much like "graphics", "power points", "scientists", "educators", "politicians" and "lawyer talk"...

It all can be "tormented" to give a desired answer.

It often is.

Personally? I hope this one is right!
Not the wrong right, the right, right.

You know? The right that ain't left/wrong?

The right that was blue? Before it became "red". Back when "red" wasn't a good color/colour?



posted on Oct, 16 2020 @ 12:08 AM
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I have alluded to this several times, but I'll try to go into more detail...

The polling areas are well-known. Both parties' pollsters know what the typical makeup of any given group of people is. Let's say we have an area made of blocks, numbered 1-20. They know that
    Block 1 will poll 30%D, 20%R
    Block 2 will poll 25%D, 20%R
    Block 3 will poll 33%D, 14%R
    Block 4 will poll 29%D, 27%R
and so on. Notice that all the blocks poll more Democrat than Republican. That's not because there are more de facto Democrats than Republicans; it's because these areas have been chosen, most many, many years ago, by Democrats. Of course they were attracted to Democratic areas. It is expensive to analyze a completely new area so the same areas are used over and over again. That's why most people never get a single poll call, but others seem to get them regularly.

I should mention that although I used the word "block" to indicate a portion of a larger polling area, these are not necessarily geographic areas. A block is just a list of phone numbers gathered over time. Maybe someone responded to a political ad 20 years ago... maybe they called the DNC or RNC... anything can be used to gather the numbers. The point is that these are known numbers, some Republican, more Democrat, and those percentages are well-known.

OK, now let's say Reuters wants to run a poll. They develop their questions, wording them very carefully to add just a hint more bias without it sounding like it is biased, and send that list of questions to a polling company. This company is really nothing more than someone well-connected who has an office with dozens of little cubicles and all of these cubicles connected to a phone. Employees set in these cubicles looking at a computer screen with a list of questions to be asked, and when they are ready the computer calls the next random number from the block. Their phone rings, they click a button to connect, and the phone on the other end rings them through. All with a mouse click.

"Good morning/evening Sir/Madam. This is [my name] from XYZ Polling Services. Do you have just a moment to take part in our latest poll?"

They ask the questions, the person answers, and as they do the caller fills in an online form that is connected to that phone number. When enough questionaires are filled out, the results go back to Reuters. The analysists at Reuters go to work with their magic math... they analyze that data six ways from Sunday. They then collate their results and do a couple more magic calculations (think witches over a bubbling cauldron dropping in ingredients if it makes you feel better... the math gets pretty intense and is probably even scarier than the witches for most people) and voila! They can now tell, based on the known percentages of the various blocks used, exactly what the average American thinks.

And we never hear about it. That's just the baseline. It's not published.

Now the election season is underway and Reuters does another poll. The questions are similar to those used the first time, adjusted slightly to include current events. But one thing is different: this time, Reuters specifies which blocks are to be polled. XYZ Polling Center does their calling thing and sends the results back.

Reuters chose which blocks to use based on their original poll (that no one else ever saw). Let's say their results showed that people responded to Question D in the following way: 28.4% yes, 66.9% no, 4.7% other (don't care/no opinion). But they don't want the public to see that! The pollsters at Reuters want the public to see the situation is neck-and-neck. So they chose blocks which show that particular question as fairly equally answered.

Now the data is in and it is coallated for publication, then checked to ensure it says about what it was supposed to (otherwise it will be held up), and finally sent out to all the media outlets. That's what we all see.

Now comes the tricky part with the bubbling mathematical caudron.

The analysts at Reuters are not finished. They toss a few drops of Spittle of Serpent into the cauldron and compare the numbers from their published poll to those from the baseline poll. Out of the math cauldron pops the actual numbers which would have been the result had they not selectively chosen which blocks to use. Another round of calculations and they know, based on previous baseline polls and election results, exactly how the people are leaning. Believe it or not, they can get those numbers to within less than 0.1%!

It's all the magic of math. I'll bet there's a lot of people right now reading this who wish they had paid more attention in math class instead of trying to catch a glimpse of Betty Lou's panties.


Anyway, that's why the polls are always skewed. Reuters knows that a poll that favors a particular opinion will tend to cause a shift in the undecided portion of the public. They publish these polls to do just that: sway public opinion. Internally, they have the real numbers hidden in data files buried within their network. Those who need access have easy access; those who do not need access do not. Everything is encrypted to assure that the true numbers do not leave the intranet they control.

What has happened lately, though, starting in 2016, is that the baselines are skewed as well. Ever since the rhetoric has become so abrasive and threatening, people are not answering truthfully. "How likely are you to vote?" is answered "very likely" when in reality the person answering has little interest in voting... they just don't want people hassling them to convince them to go vote. They will answer "Who would you vote for today?" based not on who they would vote for today, but based on who they think their neighbors will be voting for... no sense being ostracized over a phone call.

The truth is that it is possible to find out who answered what question with what answer, but it is also tremendously expensive. The data is tied to the phone number, and the phone number can be reverse looked up to identify the owner of that phone line. Don't think that just because your number is unlisted or unpublished that this is not the case... somehow, sometime, someone catalogued that number. It's just not worth Reuter's time or XYZ Polling Center's time to find you. It's the same principle behind cell phone positioning; the phone company can pinpoint your location from GPS closely enough that they can tell you what side of the street you standing on... but they rarely do. It's much more expensive. That's only used for law enforcement, and then only when the phone company is feeling generous.

But the fact that it is possible to tie poll call answers to a specific household is enough to make people nervous, especially when the rhetoric becomes so intense. So the baseline is skewed, this time by an unknown amount. Right now, I promise you, there are mathematicians across the country sitting in cubicles in front of massive computers, furiously analyzing data to try and develop an algorithm that will give them better numbers again. The problem is that rhetoric and the effect it has on the human psyche is notoriously hard to quantify.

Anyway, hope that clears up some of the mystery.

TheRedneck



posted on Oct, 16 2020 @ 12:11 AM
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originally posted by: dragonridr
I find it funny how drastically the electorial college changed in just the last week. Trump had 160 for the longest time now they say hes sitting at 256 and biden is at 282. This means florida would be the decider according to current polls if Trump takes florida he would have 285 and biden would be at 253. There also giving north carolina to biden but according to last poll it was a tie and i think ties will always go to Trump because he has a base that does not poll well.


Trump was given like 157 in 2016 and had over 300. Think about that and what they predict now....



posted on Oct, 16 2020 @ 12:17 AM
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so a poll taken at a TRUMP rally says he will win and what a lot of democrat's are at trump rally's ?
This post is beyond any real life event .
Once again posters point out how the riots were just going on and on yes we know we also know what Trumps response's are .
But honesty At this point Neither the EXTREM 5 % RIGHT YOU or the Extrem 5 % left have much pull left for either person .

What people want IS PEACE this fight over power has gotten way out of hand It is NOT Republicans VERS Democrat's
IT is TRUMP vers BOTH SIDES as Trump has lost even Most of republican support and military's support .

Trump is Juts one man a who refuses to even WORK inside His own group ( Demarcates ) O yes all TRUMP did was change His party on a ballet form You ARE voting for a demarcate But Trump knew Republicans usually have a stronger base so changed what HE is REGESTERED as .

It is easy to see just HOW the Republican party feels about Trump as they leave Him hanging out to dry .
Trump not only ahs to beat the democrat's but the Republicans as well .

BUT so what is he does win NOTHING WILL CHANGE he has failed and keeps failing .
Neither side will work with him he will become the BIGGEST LAMDUCK president ever .

Biden sucks BUT Both party's will work with him that more then you can say about Trump.

HECK AT this POINT the stock market is taking a nose dive thanks to trumps carless tweets even Big business wont want him now they are losing money hand over fist .

But i am sure the extrem Trump fans can go buy a small Island and They and Trump can live miserbly every after .

Either way at worst its just 4 YEARS . Why the heck any one thinks any president has much power after term is beyond me any thing Trump did or does will be Undone in a matter of a year tops .



posted on Oct, 16 2020 @ 12:20 AM
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Lets see... I'm going to do a Block of area codes to see who will vote for who... Hmmmm after I did it I have Biden up 20 points over Trump...Here is the block I used...

212, 315, 347, 516, 518, 585, 607, 631, 646, 716, 718, 845, 914, 917 and 929.


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posted on Oct, 16 2020 @ 12:21 AM
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Someone’s upset

Anyone who thinks that Trump may not win - hasn’t been paying attention

Popular Vote is guaranteed, that’s obvious



posted on Oct, 16 2020 @ 12:27 AM
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originally posted by: midnightstar

Either way at worst its just 4 YEARS . Why the heck any one thinks any president has much power after term is beyond me any thing Trump did or does will be Undone in a matter of a year tops .


Trump can be an A-hole but his polices have been very good, so what do you want? The left want to put the bartender AOC in charge of the green new deal...lol come on...



posted on Oct, 16 2020 @ 12:49 AM
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a reply to: TheRedneck

All that writing? And so little said?

Basically all you're saying is? "Believe nothing that you hear. And only half of what you see".

It has all been said before. Real Americans aren't as ignorant as you would like to think/believe.

The OP was just trying to give some happy "educated" news.



posted on Oct, 16 2020 @ 12:52 AM
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a reply to: midnightstar

You seem to be dehydrated. You should drink water.



posted on Oct, 16 2020 @ 12:54 AM
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a reply to: murphy22


All that writing? And so little said?

All that reading? And so little understood?

TheRedneck



posted on Oct, 16 2020 @ 01:54 AM
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a reply to: infolurker

Sanders was the Democratic Socialist, the Democratic base already decided against Democratic socialism. This is old news.



posted on Oct, 16 2020 @ 01:58 AM
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originally posted by: LSU2018

originally posted by: dragonridr
I find it funny how drastically the electorial college changed in just the last week. Trump had 160 for the longest time now they say hes sitting at 256 and biden is at 282. This means florida would be the decider according to current polls if Trump takes florida he would have 285 and biden would be at 253. There also giving north carolina to biden but according to last poll it was a tie and i think ties will always go to Trump because he has a base that does not poll well.


Trump was given like 157 in 2016 and had over 300. Think about that and what they predict now....


The problem with the pole sin 2016 was that people were afraid to say that they supported Trump.

The polsters came to people's doors and asked them in front of their husbandswives, or they came to college campuses and asked people in the courtyards. So they felt unable to give an honest answer for fear of being labeled a racist or a homeophobe.

And isn't it mostly liberals who do online poles because they center on social media platforms like Facebook and Twitter where liberals hang out?

We saw the same in the UK during Brexit. People were afraid to admit to supporting Brexit because the media was presenting people who supported it as being xenophobic.



posted on Oct, 16 2020 @ 02:05 AM
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originally posted by: Breakthestreak
Someone’s upset

Anyone who thinks that Trump may not win - hasn’t been paying attention

Popular Vote is guaranteed, that’s obvious


Anyone who may be nervous about President Trump's chances, can take comfort in the fact that the "Primary Model" is still predicting a sizeable Trump victory over Bi den.

See the front page: primarymodel.com...

For those who do not know, this model has correctly predicted the winner of 25 of the past 27 Presidential elections.




posted on Oct, 16 2020 @ 03:20 AM
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Here's something to think about. All the polls say Biden is double digit leads over Trump. But, Trump has doubled his support from blacks and hispanics since 2016. Catholics are leaving Biden. Every single police union has gone to Trump. There are so many more so I ask, where is Biden picking up all these votes to be leading by such a large margin. I asked this question on FB and was told it's the seniors. Lol, good one. I even think he's gaining from 2016 in the gay community. The enthusiasm is off the charts.



posted on Oct, 16 2020 @ 03:35 AM
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originally posted by: Rezlooper
a reply to: infolurker

where is Biden picking up all these votes to be leading?



biden isn’t picking up votes and he isn’t leading.

It’s fake.

The dEms - thanks to the attitudes and behaviour of their own party, their disgusting base and the terrorist media - have been bleeding support for four solid years now.

Meanwhile, like you pointed out, President Trump (NOT the Republican Party) has been gaining.

Hand over fist.

Every dEm supporter and anti-Trumper on ATS is predicting a landslide victory for President Trump. You can read it loud and clear between their lines of hyperbole and despair.
You can see it in the attacks and hypocrisy of the terrorist media, they ALL know that biden doesn’t stand a chance.
It’s clear that the dEmocrat party, joe biden and even kamala the fascist know they’ve already lost.

Not sure what they’re trying to achieve, but they’re going backwards, fast.



posted on Oct, 16 2020 @ 03:46 AM
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Kinda funny how some of you cherry pick polling data. If I showed you the polls that put Biden 10+ points ahead of trump you would scoff and tell me that the polls are bias and where wrong in 2016. Yet your talking about a landslide based on data collected from a tump rally like it’s a sure thing.



posted on Oct, 16 2020 @ 04:04 AM
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Exactly. I agree with you. it's fake and Trump will win big. Despite the vote by mail fraud attempt.



posted on Oct, 16 2020 @ 04:48 AM
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I keep seeing people talk about the states that Trump could win/ are close... but these are all states that he won last time and HAS to win. Florida, Iowa, etc they are not even worth a discussion. For the Trump path to victory, these have to be bankers.

The real issue for Trump is that he has hold the states like PA, MI, WI that he won last time and he is not going to win them all again.
There are also way more states in real play for Democrats this time around that Trump won - like Arizona, North Carolina.

Who attends a rally is in Iowa will have no bearing at all on the result.

Trump winning is a massive long shot and as for a landslide, no chance at all.



posted on Oct, 16 2020 @ 06:31 AM
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You are exactly right. My wife and I run a small telemarketing company and this is the first year we've ever done any political calling. The surveys and polls are definitely geared towards getting the results you want. The way the questions are worded, etc. While the data provided by the companies doing the surveys typically provide some historical voting stats, I've seen a lot of variance from past voting habits. Whether that's just people lying or how they truly feel is hard to gauge, but since the majority of the demographic we've been doing polls for is 50 and over, I'd say the latter.



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