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The Templar fleet, Pirates, Scottish Masons, and the founding of the US


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reply posted on 20-6-2006 @ 06:35 AM by VelvetSplash


The Hiram Key gives a convincingly logic theory regarding the Templars and their connection to Roslyn, and possibly the Americas.

The book also concludes that Roslyn Chapel is also a mirror image of Solomon's Temple (from memory, I think it was the one from Herod's time) and it gives a visual comparison with a diagram.



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reply posted on 20-6-2006 @ 07:23 PM by Hobbes


The best explanation I've heard for all this goes as such:

1) All through history, there have been men that have thought a certain way. There is a natural tendancy among men to band together with those of like interest, so logically there have been many groups in history with that certain outlook.

2) As a whole, society builds upon our previous accomplishments. The Templars, for example, developed a method of credit accounting that is similar to our modern techniques. One could certainly say that Templar influence exists in our modern banking system... but it would be dubious to claim that Templars created the bank down on the corner.

3) Value is placed in things being 'ancient'. It sounds much more impressive to say 'we've been doing this for a million years' rather than 'we came up with this last week'.

So, the Templars and the Speculative Masons have some common interests, and as such developed as similar organizations. The Masons borrowed a few symbols and principles from the earlier order, because they fit - why reinvent the wheel? And at the same time, by adopting these ancient designs, the Masons added an ancient feel to the order.

But did the Templars become the Freemasons? Wishful thinking, in my mind.



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reply posted on 26-6-2006 @ 10:38 AM by Mr_Peel


I believe it was the Discovery Channel that ran the program on the Templars (no doubt instigated by Sony for promoting tDVC) that indicated a specific part of Switzerland suddenly swelled with fierce warriors in the early 1300s. That the villagers were suddenly able to defend themselves decisively... the implication being that Templars fled there after being purged from France.

The implications also could be that the Swiss banking system originated with Templars.

So we have: a disappearing fleet, missing treasure, new arrivals in Scotland, rumored arrivals in the "new world," pirate mysteries, buried treasure and now a Swiss connection.

It's almost too good to be true. But so much of it can be documented... I wonder if there are scholarly efforts to tie up the loose ends and lay out the entire saga.



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reply posted on 30-6-2006 @ 08:07 AM by BlackGuardXIII



Originally posted by Hobbes
So, the Templars and the Speculative Masons have some common interests, and as such developed as similar organizations. The Masons borrowed a few symbols and principles from the earlier order, because they fit - why reinvent the wheel? And at the same time, by adopting these ancient designs, the Masons added an ancient feel to the order.

But did the Templars become the Freemasons? Wishful thinking, in my mind.

If there are tangible links, ie. the Sinclair family of Rosslyn fame, and evidence that supports the Templars taking refuge in Scotland, etc., which there is, then it is starting to grow into something more plausible than wishful thinking. I have read dozens of works on the subject, together they expose more than a few such bits of supporting evidence. If Masons are not directly from them, as they themselves say, then by coincidence, they sure have a lot of commonalities.
PS, thanks stalkingwolf.



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