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posted on Oct, 14 2020 @ 11:51 PM
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a reply to: interupt42

Are you insane?




posted on Oct, 14 2020 @ 11:52 PM
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originally posted by: Tearman
a reply to: interupt42

Are you insane?


If you are sane then yes Im happy to be insane.



posted on Oct, 15 2020 @ 12:17 AM
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I do not come on here to bag Trump etc.... But I must admit it does get very tiresome reading comments all over the internet by Americans who support Trump that seem extremely over the top in how great they are.

And how you are #1 at everything. Despite the evidence to the contrary pointing to the fact you suck at most things now, lurch from one crisis to the next, and spend a huge amount of time and effort fighting each other, than actually doing anything great.

I do not know if you have noticed this, but only certain countries run around claiming to be #1 all the time, and they are usually full of extremist nutters.

Unlike some of the truly great leaders and people your country has produced, who did not go around trying to convince people they were. They just were. You seem to be trying to convince yourself.

You guys seem to be resting on their laurels, which comes off as pathetic or cartoonish. Almost begging to be given a hard time. I suppose a lot of people who were bought up to hate that kind of behaviour, ( in New Zealand we do not tolerate extremism at all. It is looked down upon and is seen as a form of mental disorder )


Maybe something to ponder next time you see a post by another American that fits that category.


reply to: network dude



posted on Oct, 15 2020 @ 12:34 AM
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a reply to: thedeadtruth

Most Americans are very aware that our govt has gone to sh1t and we are no longer the leaders in many sectors.

I have yet come across anyone living in America thinking we are the number 1 . As a matter fact that is a large reason why trump was elected and has the support he has. Heck even his slogan says it " Make America Great Again " and it was not "Keep American #1"

Also as someone who didn't vote for trump the majority of tiresome comments and extremism I see are those coming from the left who are also the ones leading the charge in the division in this country.



posted on Oct, 15 2020 @ 01:05 AM
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Well even reading some posts on this thread, you can see the we are #1 often. And calling every other country on earth "Communists" or "Socialist". And only the U.S. has freedom.

It is almost as though they never travel or read anything about the rest of the world.

The world is a very small place now, and there is zero excuse for being that ignorant anymore. Probably hard for most people to not say something derogatory eventually .

a reply to: interupt42



posted on Oct, 15 2020 @ 07:46 AM
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originally posted by: sapien82
I wasnt being sarcastic in my posts , well I was about the whole American firewall thing and it working out well .


Anyway I find it hilarious that Americans find it annoying that others comment on their elections and government
Americans are quite happy doing the same, hell even the US government does it often enough
they love to interfere in foreign politics
there probably isnt one nation on this earth that the US hasnt tried to have its way with its government either directly or covertly


I think you misunderstand the issue here. Other people from other nations comment on US politics often and that's all just fine. This is about the few who can't pass up a thread having anything to do with US politics, and being fan bois for the left. Huge anti Trump rhetoric and as I said, comment on every thread. It's enough to make you question their motives. At least it was for me.



posted on Oct, 15 2020 @ 07:49 AM
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originally posted by: hudsonhawk69

originally posted by: network dude
If you look only at ATS, you notice that a good portion of those who loudly oppose Trump are not from the US. There has to be a reason so many people from other nations have such a strong opinion on US politics. We kept hearing about Russian interference in our last election, perhaps that is exactly what this is. Posters being paid to push the garbage they push for some cash. If you look at the content of the posts, they fit the "garbage" mentality, so they could very well be paid disinformation agents.

If Canada, New Zealand, Germany, and other places are such wonderful paradises, why would the citizens of those countries need to come here and cry buckets about US politics? Perhaps, it's just for the Benjamin's. That level of shallow would fit in well with the content.
Because Team America World Police keep illegally invading other countries, murdering their inhabitants, destroying anything good in the world and sacrificing people to the god of MONEY.


Except under Trump, that's not been the case. Makes you think for a minute of those who bash him so much are angry about that. perhaps they miss the US interventions and bringing of Democracy to all who have Oil and other good stuff that needs our management.



posted on Oct, 15 2020 @ 07:51 AM
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originally posted by: interupt42

originally posted by: ThirdEyeofHorus

originally posted by: interupt42
a reply to: network dude

IMO , I think lots of countries hate the USA and want to see its downfall.

Lots of resentment against the US. While some is warranted some not so much and some just hate seeing the cool kid always getting the attention.



Anyone who has seen the inside of an INS office in any given day would realize the massive numbers of people who want to become citizens of America, so clearly the hatred of America from foreigners is overrated.
Then there was the whole cavalcade of people coming from
Latin America wanting to smash through the border en masse..... because there were being told they had a fundamental “ human right” to come to the US....


I'm very aware as I was not born in the USA . Its not the ones coming here that hate the US , although some do.

um my point is that on any given day the INS is filled with people wanting US citizenship.



posted on Oct, 15 2020 @ 07:58 AM
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originally posted by: thedeadtruth
Well even reading some posts on this thread, you can see the we are #1 often. And calling every other country on earth "Communists" or "Socialist". And only the U.S. has freedom.

It is almost as though they never travel or read anything about the rest of the world.

The world is a very small place now, and there is zero excuse for being that ignorant anymore. Probably hard for most people to not say something derogatory eventually .

a reply to: interupt42

Perhaps you have not noticed that World Socialism has crept into many nations, or is in the process of it. But perhaps another thing you could take note of is that other things which are not so obvious are Agenda 21 and Climate Change rhetoric. I was in Tunisia a few years back and plastic water bottles weren’t allowed into some of the hotel resorts. One particular one I recall in Sousse.



posted on Oct, 15 2020 @ 08:05 AM
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first of all, Esprit-de corps, is a fundamental part of most nations who believe in themselves. I'd be concerned if let's say you had a poor attitude towards New Zealand. You live there, you should be proud of it. I live here, and I am proud of it. I believe it's the greatest country on Earth. And I'd hope that you believe your country is.

Trump is a result of Newton's third law. The government has become such a tyrant, criminal, and self serving entity that "we the people" have had enough. Trump represents everything against those aspects. (He may not be that, but he was voted in due to that) He is egotistical, bombastic, annoying, and pics fights with non important people just so he can have the last word. As a person, he comes across as a douche. I believe that was the initial reason for "resist". But after he had time to be in office, we can see results. he approaches things much differently than a career politician. And he has gotten some good things done. You wouldn't know, as the MSM doesn't report on anything positive for Trump.

At this point, I'll happily vote for him again, and see more good results if we are lucky. Perhaps his success will change the landscape of our political scene for the better. I'd love to see a more polished leader use some of the tactics Trump used and remove some of the things that he is rightfully ridiculed for.



posted on Oct, 15 2020 @ 09:20 AM
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originally posted by: ThirdEyeofHorus

originally posted by: interupt42

originally posted by: ThirdEyeofHorus

originally posted by: interupt42
a reply to: network dude

IMO , I think lots of countries hate the USA and want to see its downfall.

Lots of resentment against the US. While some is warranted some not so much and some just hate seeing the cool kid always getting the attention.



Anyone who has seen the inside of an INS office in any given day would realize the massive numbers of people who want to become citizens of America, so clearly the hatred of America from foreigners is overrated.
Then there was the whole cavalcade of people coming from
Latin America wanting to smash through the border en masse..... because there were being told they had a fundamental “ human right” to come to the US....


I'm very aware as I was not born in the USA . Its not the ones coming here that hate the US , although some do.

um my point is that on any given day the INS is filled with people wanting US citizenship.


Yes but most of those people aren't coming from other so called 1st world leader countries they are coming from sh1tholes countries like I came from.

The ones that have a distaste for America are more of the equivalent standing countries rather than the 3rd world countries. Although some of them dont care for us either because their leaders blame the US everyday for their downfall.

IMO its all silly but people love to hate from all backgrounds.

IMO the people that should have some valid hate for the 1st world countries are the people from the ME. They have been used as the 1st worlds military tony stark weapons test area for far to long. However, they should also hate their own leadership as well. There is enough blame to go around for every country.


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posted on Oct, 15 2020 @ 09:49 AM
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Even with americans, it isn't necessarily Trump.

Not Voting for Biden

Not really even voting against Trump.

I'm voting against his supporters.



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posted on Oct, 15 2020 @ 01:12 PM
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You know, other country's citizens being critical of the USA is nothing new, not new at all. It may be more noticeable now with all the social media and the MSM wall to wall coverage, but it's not new. It has nothing to do with Republicans or Democrats, and it can be distilled down into two simple words.

It all started when the US did something no other country has ever done, not before or since. It's the one thing which sets the US apart from every other country on earth.

So what are the two words?

THE BOMB.

No matter what side you are on over the topic of nuclear weapons, the facts are the world perception of the US was forever changed on Aug 6th and 9th, 1945.

And now the US political gyrations are far from the only ones getting scrutiny, the government's of all the nuclear capable "super powers" are being criticized. The US just because of its influence on the world economy is just a juicy target. So, when it comes time to elect the leadership of one of these countries people from all over chime in with their .02 worth.
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posted on Oct, 16 2020 @ 12:36 AM
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"I live here, and I am proud of it. I believe it's the greatest country on Earth. And I'd hope that you believe your country is."

That is the point. I am intellectually honest enough, and traveled enough to know we are great at some things, not so good at others.

The comment " We are #1 " is attached to the attitude they are #1 at everything. And some even pretend the U.S. invented certain ideas and principles. Which is obviously untrue .

As I said, it is like they are trying to convince themselves, and poor self-esteem or at least a nagging doubt about how great things really are is the real issue.





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posted on Oct, 16 2020 @ 07:24 AM
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Yeh mam I hear you , round about election time they always come , you seen the same # with bush et al when they came in the early 2000's and it was the same with Obama too
but I do agree there appears to a regular occurrence of the same people immediately making posts about Donald or attacking him off the bat even when the thread isnt about Donald or his administration.

This # happens every time its election year and leading up to it for sure , like right now for some reason All I see on youtube and FB etc is anti SNP youtube channels and stuff , when I am a SNP voter because I believe independence is the right path for Scotland, and all I see is anti Nicola sturgeon memes and anti snp videos , media snippets of journalists and other MP's saying how # they are etc.

I think its just par for the course







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posted on Oct, 16 2020 @ 08:08 AM
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Sorry mate.....during lockdown and this pandemic I've seen hardly anything either for or against SNP.
Like everything its sort of gone on the back burner.

But if anything Nicola Sturgeon's reputation has gone up!

People like myself who openly can't stand the poison little witch and everything she represents have got to admit that she's managed this virus outbreak far, far better than any of her counter-parts here in the UK - head of that list of incompetents, by far, is Boris and his reactive, inconsistent and overly-cautious but scatter gun approach.

In fact, off the top of my head apart from Jacinda Ardern in New Zealand I can't think of another national leader who has managed it more decisively or been more open and brutally honest.

I appreciate people living in Scotland where her every day handling of the situation is under a bigger spotlight may see things differently but I assure you, I'm not the only one who thinks that.

I also think this pandemic has shown that The Union can work and that Scotland can be in charge of its own affairs - perhaps that ought to be 'should be in charge'? - without completely breaking up The Union.

A discussion for another time and place mate?

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posted on Oct, 18 2020 @ 12:50 AM
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originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: hudsonhawk69

originally posted by: network dude
If you look only at ATS, you notice that a good portion of those who loudly oppose Trump are not from the US. There has to be a reason so many people from other nations have such a strong opinion on US politics. We kept hearing about Russian interference in our last election, perhaps that is exactly what this is. Posters being paid to push the garbage they push for some cash. If you look at the content of the posts, they fit the "garbage" mentality, so they could very well be paid disinformation agents.

If Canada, New Zealand, Germany, and other places are such wonderful paradises, why would the citizens of those countries need to come here and cry buckets about US politics? Perhaps, it's just for the Benjamin's. That level of shallow would fit in well with the content.
Because Team America World Police keep illegally invading other countries, murdering their inhabitants, destroying anything good in the world and sacrificing people to the god of MONEY.


Except under Trump, that's not been the case. Makes you think for a minute of those who bash him so much are angry about that. perhaps they miss the US interventions and bringing of Democracy to all who have Oil and other good stuff that needs our management.
Please explain to me how trump... has handled covid-19 so well... he's is responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of americans!



posted on Oct, 18 2020 @ 12:59 AM
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originally posted by: ThirdEyeofHorus

originally posted by: hudsonhawk69

originally posted by: network dude
If you look only at ATS, you notice that a good portion of those who loudly oppose Trump are not from the US. There has to be a reason so many people from other nations have such a strong opinion on US politics. We kept hearing about Russian interference in our last election, perhaps that is exactly what this is. Posters being paid to push the garbage they push for some cash. If you look at the content of the posts, they fit the "garbage" mentality, so they could very well be paid disinformation agents.

If Canada, New Zealand, Germany, and other places are such wonderful paradises, why would the citizens of those countries need to come here and cry buckets about US politics? Perhaps, it's just for the Benjamin's. That level of shallow would fit in well with the content.
Because Team America World Police keep illegally invading other countries, murdering their inhabitants, destroying anything good in the world and sacrificing people to the god of MONEY.
You might like to take notice that the attendees of Bilderberg secret meetings come from all over the world. The UN is multinational and these people have no loyalty to any country because they are dedicated to bringing the world to its knees in obeisance to the One World Govt and American elites have no loyalty just to their own power and would sacrifice their country to the altar of The Socialist Totalitarian One World Government. I would mention also that our former President is a native of Kenyan as even stated by his wife on the podium. And she also spouted Marxist rhetoric ( “ we all have to give up sone of our pie so that others can have more”, which is pure Marxist redistribution of wealth to its core ).
You're right. Clearly america and trump are completely innocent... .!.




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