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Both presidential campaigns agree to push back next in-person debate

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posted on Oct, 8 2020 @ 09:34 PM
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Well, not a huge surprise.
Trump said a virtual debate is not a debate at all.
I thought it offers a chance for Biden to have extra help with his answers, or even to be able to debate from his infamous basement.
Now we hear Biden doesn't want a virtual debate either.......

Interesting that so little is out there about this....

Both presidential campaigns have agreed to push back their next in-person debate.

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The Biden campaign has since spoken out, agreeing to an October 22nd debate instead of the 15th. However, the third debate will not go on as planned, as Biden’s team does not want to reschedule.

The Trump campaign has requested both debates be pushed back a week to allow all three events to proceed. In the meantime, the commission has yet to respond.

www.oann.com...



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posted on Oct, 8 2020 @ 09:39 PM
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a reply to: DontTreadOnMe

So Biden plagiarized Trumps disagreement to the debate commission.


edit on 8-10-2020 by DBCowboy because: Covid drank my beer



posted on Oct, 8 2020 @ 09:43 PM
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a reply to: DBCowboy
Well, I think someone last night commented that Biden knows at least a little bit about plagiarism



posted on Oct, 8 2020 @ 09:45 PM
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I'm not at all surprised by this. They just want to virtue signal more about COVID19 and beat Trump and the White House staff up for getting sick.



posted on Oct, 8 2020 @ 10:01 PM
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a reply to: DontTreadOnMe

I've been saying it the whole time. A lot of what Biden says he's going to do is what Trump and co have been doing. Or at least claiming to do.

There's even Biden's stupid campaign phrase "Build Back Better."

What did they do ask a seven year old to reword Make America Great Again, but tell them they couldn't use the word America?


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posted on Oct, 8 2020 @ 10:07 PM
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a reply to: DontTreadOnMe

I would like to have someone point out why the Presidential Debate Commission even exists.

It is neither Constitutional or legal.

It is just a way for the two parties to exclude any other parties.



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posted on Oct, 8 2020 @ 10:11 PM
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a reply to: Lumenari

Yeah, they seem to be more about avoiding any chance to have a viable third party, and limit any chance for outsiders to become mainstream candidates.



posted on Oct, 8 2020 @ 10:25 PM
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originally posted by: DontTreadOnMe
a reply to: Lumenari

Yeah, they seem to be more about avoiding any chance to have a viable third party, and limit any chance for outsiders to become mainstream candidates.


SoOo...

In the 80's, a Democrat and a Republican decided to make a new Committee.

To totally control the Presidential debates and exclude all third parties.

You can't even make this stuff up.

Here is the WIKI entry, if anyone is concerned about it....

Commission on Presidential Debates

A quick quote on the criticism of it...


In 2000, the CPD established a rule that for a candidate to be included in the national debates he or she must garner at least 15% support across five national polls. This rule has been controversial as it has effectively excluded U.S. parties other than the two major parties.

In 2003, a 501(c)(3) called Open Debates was formed to advocate debates that included third parties and that allowed exchanges among the candidates. Criticism by Open Debates of CPD for the 2012 election include the secret contract between CPD and the Obama and Romney campaigns (a complaint joined by 17 other organizations including Judicial Watch) and CPD informing the candidates of the debate topics in advance.

In 2004, citing the CPD's 32 page debate contract, Connie Rice on NPR's The Tavis Smiley Show called the CPD debates "news conferences," and "a reckless endangerment of democracy." On October 8, 2004, two presidential candidates, Libertarian candidate Michael Badnarik and Green Party candidate David Cobb, were arrested while protesting against CPD for excluding third-party candidates from the nationally televised debates in St. Louis, Missouri.

In 2008, the Center for Public Integrity (CPI) labeled the CPD a "secretive tax-exempt organization". The CPI analyzed the 2004 financials of the CPD, and found that 93 percent of the contributions to the non-profit CPD came from just six donors, the names of all of which were blacked out on the donor list provided to the CPI.

During the last week of September, 2012, three sponsors withdrew their sponsorship of the 2012 debates for not including third parties: BBH New York, YWCA USA, and Philips Electronics.

On October 16, 2012, Green Party presidential nominee Jill Stein and vice-presidential nominee Cheri Honkala were arrested for disorderly conduct while trying to take part in the second presidential debate at Hofstra University in Hempstead, New York. The two women claimed they were taken to a warehouse, and strapped for eight hours to chairs with plastic wrist restraints before being released.

The first of the 2020 United States presidential debates was heavily criticized because of the hostile tone shared by the two candidates and the moderator. In response to the criticism, the CPD promised that future debates would be more civilized, saying, "Last night’s debate made clear that additional structure should be added to the format of the remaining debates to ensure a more orderly discussion of the issues. The CPD will be carefully considering the changes that it will adopt and will announce those measures shortly." The statement did not elaborate on what "additional structure" and "changes" would entail. Despite criticism of his moderation, the CPD defended Wallace's moderation ability commending his "professionalism and skill".


So take what you will from that, but the two wings of the same bird are making sure that there are only two parties.

And no exchange of ideas ever, no representation of the largest voting base in America (the independents) and they want to keep up "Business as usual" for their own political futures.

BTW... the members of this Committee are taxpayer-funded.

You and I are paying for them to do this.




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posted on Oct, 8 2020 @ 10:35 PM
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a reply to: Lumenari

And, now they are trying to keep out the Republican candidate......



posted on Oct, 8 2020 @ 10:38 PM
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a reply to: AutomateThis1

Come to Ohio. Biden is running an ad talking about all his accomplishments in his first term in a future past tense. You just stare at it like a girl who thought you was going to kiss her but you wasn’t in to her at all but she stands there expectantly...it really is like that.



posted on Oct, 8 2020 @ 10:41 PM
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originally posted by: DontTreadOnMe
a reply to: Lumenari

Yeah, they seem to be more about avoiding any chance to have a viable third party, and limit any chance for outsiders to become mainstream candidates.


That happened after ross perot made both party look like the fools they are.

Trump needs to bring focus to the CPD and call them fake Commission on Presidential Debates. They are a big reason why both party are a joke and the election are about the lesser evil.
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posted on Oct, 8 2020 @ 10:47 PM
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a reply to: Lumenari

Can the president eliminate the committee?



posted on Oct, 8 2020 @ 10:50 PM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Lumenari

Can the president eliminate the committee?



Its a corporation and not a govt entity . Which makes it even more ridiculous that they in essence pick the candidates that we are allowed to vote for..

Its a huge deal that neither party or msm brings attention too. Trump needs to expose itblike fake news.



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posted on Oct, 8 2020 @ 10:52 PM
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originally posted by: interupt42

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Lumenari

Can the president eliminate the committee?



Its a corporation and not a govt entity . Which makes it even more ridiculous that they in essence pick the candidates that we are allowed to vote for..


If they're a corporation, why are they getting tax payer funding and why is anyone paying attention to them?



posted on Oct, 8 2020 @ 10:55 PM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: interupt42

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Lumenari

Can the president eliminate the committee?



Its a corporation and not a govt entity . Which makes it even more ridiculous that they in essence pick the candidates that we are allowed to vote for..


If they're a corporation, why are they getting tax payer funding and why is anyone paying attention to them?


Setup as a not for profit corporation and ran by both party.

CPD


The Commission on Presidential Debates (CPD) is a nonprofit corporation established in 1987 under the joint sponsorship of the Democratic and Republican political parties in the United States.[1][3] The CPD sponsors and produces debates for U.S. presidential and vice-presidential candidates and undertakes research and educational activities relating to the debates. It has run all of the presidential debates held since 1988. The commission's debates are sponsored by private contributions from foundations and corporations[4] as well as fees from hosting institutions.[5"
"

Also

"In 2008, the Center for Public Integrity (CPI) labeled the CPD a "secretive tax-exempt organization". The CPI analyzed the 2004 financials of the CPD, and found that 93 percent of the contributions to the non-profit CPD came from just six donors, the names of all of which were blacked out on the donor list provided to the CPI"

Interesting that dont they say that only 6 companies on all the media[. Actually surprised the Queue has been quite about this.
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posted on Oct, 8 2020 @ 10:57 PM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

IRS get taxpayer money for operations as does RITA in Ohio...pray you never get a RITA going in your state. But both of those are corporations.



posted on Oct, 8 2020 @ 10:59 PM
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a reply to: interupt42

88?

Wasn't that elder Bush and Dukakis?

Was it those two idiots?



posted on Oct, 8 2020 @ 11:03 PM
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The Biden campaign wants additional days for mail-in ballots to be returned, in case Joe has a "problem" during the next debate.

But unfortunately, a key Democratic constituency (Black voters) are having mailed-in ballots rejected at a higher than normal rate.

Story from North Carolina: www.newsweek.com...



posted on Oct, 8 2020 @ 11:22 PM
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What this likely means in terms of Joe agreeing to
push it back, he knows he can't win.

If he thought he could win now, he would just
blow it off and pretend to be the front runner.



posted on Oct, 8 2020 @ 11:54 PM
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The Moderator for the next debate (whenever it is) should be someone with no Anti-Trump or Anti-Biden history.

Steve Scully, the next debate moderator, was consulting with Anthony Scaramucci about President Trump this week.

Scully is a Sh'ithead: www.redstate.com... himself/



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