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posted on Sep, 25 2020 @ 07:21 AM
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President Trump has announced his vision for the future of American healthcare. The “America First Healthcare Plan” relies on three pillars: more choice, lower costs for families and seniors, and better care for American patients.

The President has advocated for 33 million Medicare beneficiaries to receive $200 to help pay for prescription drugs. He also announced a rule to allow for the cheaper importation of prescription drugs from Canada.

He went on to sign an executive order, which called for all Americans with preexisting conditions to be protected and covered, regardless of whether or not Obamacare is repealed.


since this won't be making it to NBC, or CNN, I thought it was important to bring it here. One of the larger talking points is that Trump will dismantle Obamacare and instantly kill everyone with pre-existing conditions. I am not sure if he will personally pull the trigger, or if he has men to do that for him, but either way, the narrative seems to have fallen apart.

Trump is protecting pre-existing conditions with his EO. When I lost my healthcare coverage due to Obama's idiotic plan, I tried to reconcile it with the fact that at least those few people who had pre-exiting conditions were getting care. I have a good friend who is likely the smartest guy I know with back end programing of network equipment. He could start his own company and make millions. (as all business owners do
) But he never could due to his diabetes. That's just one guy, and I know there are many more like him or worse off. But now that this is the case, those claims that the orange monster will kill everyone seem to be largely hyperbole.

Will there be any noise from the left on this? I highly doubt it. As I said, it won't get any coverage since it's pro Trump. But for the couple of folks here on ATS that speak of how Obamacare saved them, you can now thank Trump for listening to you. he heard you.




posted on Sep, 25 2020 @ 07:25 AM
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Health insurance portability would make pre-existing conditions a lot less of an issue which is why you will see it never allowed.

How could Democrats cry over pre-existing conditions and continue to agitate for government takeover if portable policies (i.e. policies carried independent of work that went wherever you went regardless of state lines) made the issue moot?



posted on Sep, 25 2020 @ 07:31 AM
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How could Democrats cry over pre-existing conditions and continue to agitate for government takeover if portable policies (i.e. policies carried independent of work that went wherever you went regardless of state lines) made the issue moot?



Pelosi : "Hold my vodka"



posted on Sep, 25 2020 @ 07:33 AM
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a reply to: network dude

Well..there goes one Lefty talking point.

We've been inundated with Biden's crap commercial about how Trump will kill all the seniors...




posted on Sep, 25 2020 @ 07:34 AM
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The Trump administration has had 3+ YEARS to come up with alternative options to ACA or programs to help seniors with prescription drug prices and ... they have done NOTHING but 40 days before the election they are going to give Gramma and Grampa A COUPON worth two hundred dollars towards prescription drugs and all is right in the world?

Wow.

No plan, just panic induced actions. And the taxpayer pays for the Trump campaign.


oH, and how much is insulin right now? 300$ ?


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posted on Sep, 25 2020 @ 07:36 AM
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originally posted by: ManFromEurope
The Trump administration has had 3+ YEARS to come up with alternative options to ACA or programs to help seniors with prescription drug prices and ... they have done NOTHING but 40 days before the election they are going to give Gramma and Grampa A COUPON worth two hundred dollars towards prescription drugs and all is right in the world?

Wow.

No plan, just panic induced actions. And the taxpayer pays for the Trump campaign.


oH, and how much is insulin right now? 300$ ?


so if he brings down prescription prices in the US, you will be a fan? Oh wait, you aren't from around here. Well, you can just keep punching that clock and typing away. Bonus time is near.



posted on Sep, 25 2020 @ 07:37 AM
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originally posted by: network dude

since this won't be making it to NBC, or CNN, I thought it was important to bring it here.


Luckily I live in the UK and my wife has benefitted greatly from the excellent NHS having been in a coma for 2 weeks and requiring brain surgery, at no point did the family have to worry about finances over healthcare, they just saved her life. I never use CNN or NBC or FOX or OANN or any other American news network, I just use ATS for finding out, but I tested your theory regarding it not being on CNN or NBC by typing in the following to google

President Trump American healthcare nbc + President Trump American healthcare cnn

I found these links

edition.cnn.com...

and

www.nbcnews.com...

both posted within last 12hours.



posted on Sep, 25 2020 @ 07:43 AM
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Wait until they decide that it's too costly to keep her around and then decide that it's in her best interests to just shut off the care.

Then re-decide whether or not you think the care is excellent.



posted on Sep, 25 2020 @ 07:43 AM
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that's great. If the major news outlets post this story, it will smash the narrative of Trump removing that part of Obamacare. They even have heart tugging, tear jerking commercials stating just that.

So that's great news, I can't thank you enough for doing that leg work!

ETA: I'm truly happy your wife is getting good care. I hope she recovers and continues to make you good sammiches.


We have some laws here that even if you can't pay, they have to provide that life saving care. So while we don't have that type of socialism here, we still have the things in place to keep folks alive if they get sick.
edit on 25-9-2020 by network dude because: added thought



posted on Sep, 25 2020 @ 07:44 AM
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originally posted by: MykeNukem
a reply to: network dude

Well..there goes one Lefty talking point.

We've been inundated with Biden's crap commercial about how Trump will kill all the seniors...


They back to throw granny off the cliff again ?


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posted on Sep, 25 2020 @ 07:47 AM
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Our countries have Free Healthcare...and the system sucks.

People pay for prescriptions here or they have to have insurance...Same thing...

My wife and I have went without needed meds because of money...we've had to wait extremely long times for surgeries...etc..

I'm Canadian and I say run fast and hard from Universal Healthcare.....run...

You'll lose your decision making power.


edit on 9/25/2020 by MykeNukem because: sp



posted on Sep, 25 2020 @ 07:47 AM
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I don't know why Conservatives even bother listening to the Dems anymore.
Trump could literally find a cure for cancer and the Left would cry " He's taking jobs from healthcare workers".

They always find something to whine about.



posted on Sep, 25 2020 @ 07:50 AM
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At this rate, Trump could find the cure for cancer and the Democrats would take the cancer because they wouldn't trust him.

The running joke is that if he told them air was beneficial to their health, they'd put bags over their heads.



posted on Sep, 25 2020 @ 08:00 AM
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Someone should inform Biden since he has a campaign ad that starts with a small, frail, bald headed boy you instantly want to pity as he leans over a toilet to throw-up, and then his Jabba the Mom cries about how her little boy won't have insurance if Trump is reelected since he wants to end preexisting conditions.

It was disgusting but not surprising to see democrats use a small, sick, innocent child as an attempt to trash Trump and get some pity.



posted on Sep, 25 2020 @ 08:03 AM
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originally posted by: ketsuko
Health insurance portability would make pre-existing conditions a lot less of an issue which is why you will see it never allowed.

How could Democrats cry over pre-existing conditions and continue to agitate for government takeover if portable policies (i.e. policies carried independent of work that went wherever you went regardless of state lines) made the issue moot?


Because every single one of them is a staunch hypocrite. They claim to be about making sure everyone has health insurance but the fact is it's more difficult to get AFFORDABLE health care through the ACA. I know, we were on it for a while. It's BS and it's what Biden says he wants to expand to cover more people. I thought it was intended to cover everyone initially?

Anyway, major kudos to Trump for doing this. Libs won't accept it but it's fact and it's a good thing.



posted on Sep, 25 2020 @ 08:05 AM
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originally posted by: LSU2018
a reply to: network dude

Someone should inform Biden since he has a campaign ad that starts with a small, frail, bald headed boy you instantly want to pity as he leans over a toilet to throw-up, and then his Jabba the Mom cries about how her little boy won't have insurance if Trump is reelected since he wants to end preexisting conditions.

It was disgusting but not surprising to see democrats use a small, sick, innocent child as an attempt to trash Trump and get some pity.


It's sickening to see that knowing it's a lie. The mother is pathetic because one, she allowed her kids to be politicized and two, someone paid her to lie about this. I have contacted the station that I see the ads on but they don't care because it's income for them. Truth in advertising needs to come back.



posted on Sep, 25 2020 @ 08:07 AM
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originally posted by: DAVID64
I don't know why Conservatives even bother listening to the Dems anymore.
Trump could literally find a cure for cancer and the Left would cry " He's taking jobs from healthcare workers".

They always find something to whine about.


Because they're out there pushing lies as facts and they're fooling a lot of people. That's not right and the rest of us have to stand up and counter their lies with the facts and try to get those that have been fooled to realize it. Why? Because if enough people are fooled into believing the lies they will eventually have enough voting power to make the changes the Libs want.



posted on Sep, 25 2020 @ 08:09 AM
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Right!? A vial of effective modern insulin in the US is $300+! If OP thinks this is going to free up any of his business genius friends money, that's laughable.

Also, why bother importing cheaper drugs from up here in Canada when the US government could just mandate that US companies have to make drugs affordable?!

Since my son was diagnosed with Type 1 diabetes , we've been able to donate $1000.00's of dollars (US value) of insulin that we would have had to throw away to kids in Maine, whose parents were being bankrupted by healthcare costs. $1000.00's of dollars, over 2.5 years, and that's just a fraction of their insulin needs.
edit on 25-9-2020 by Atsbhct because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 25 2020 @ 08:11 AM
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That's the same way it goes when democrats pander to minorities. They coddle and love on them during an election year and then shove them back outside like a stray dog for 3 more years.

At least Trump is trying to fix a busted healthcare system that was never broke before democrats killed it. A system so great you were forced to pay a fine if you didn't have it. A system that was supposed to have lower premiums after each year. A system so great that Nancy Pelosi told us we'd have to pass it to find out what it consists of. Turns out, the premiums went up, up, up, and up. To the point that the middle class couldn't afford it because it's hard to budget in an extra $650 a month and impossible to budget in a $12,500 out of pocket coverage before the insurance even kicks in.

Tell me what you would do to fix something like that.



posted on Sep, 25 2020 @ 08:17 AM
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originally posted by: UpIsNowDown

originally posted by: network dude

since this won't be making it to NBC, or CNN, I thought it was important to bring it here.


Luckily I live in the UK and my wife has benefitted greatly from the excellent NHS having been in a coma for 2 weeks and requiring brain surgery, at no point did the family have to worry about finances over healthcare, they just saved her life. I never use CNN or NBC or FOX or OANN or any other American news network, I just use ATS for finding out, but I tested your theory regarding it not being on CNN or NBC by typing in the following to google

President Trump American healthcare nbc + President Trump American healthcare cnn

I found these links

edition.cnn.com...

and

www.nbcnews.com...

both posted within last 12hours.




Fake news! Fake news!

The lefties want you dead instead. Remember always, it's you against them; i.e. Left VS right.
The left, and the news outlets all want you dead.


The msm would never post trumps fluff for his people..
Mexico is paying for the wall as we sqeak😊
And free health care for all Americans.... "We don't want Canada's pills"..who am I?☺️🥰😊😅🙃


Vote Trump.
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