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Democratic Party leads nationwide purge of Green Party candidates from November ballots

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posted on Sep, 22 2020 @ 08:44 AM
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So the swing states helped put Trump into office, so the democrats figure if they suppress some voters, they will ensure a victory. They are surely the party of voter suppression.

www.wsws.org...


In a series of blatantly undemocratic actions, Democratic Party state election commission members have kicked Green Party candidates off of the ballots in several states within the last week. The moves express the fear within the ruling class over the growth of social opposition and display the political gangsterism of the Democratic Party.

The moves come as Democratic state governors in Michigan and California and bourgeois courts have blocked the Socialist Equality Party’s candidates from the ballot, forcing them to gather signatures despite the coronavirus pandemic. While the SEP opposes the politics of the pro-capitalist Green Party, we defend the democratic right of its presidential nominee, Howie Hawkins, to appear on the ballot in all 50 states.




posted on Sep, 22 2020 @ 08:46 AM
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a reply to: Bearack

Do we know why they were removed?
It it was due to a procedural error, then that's on the party that was removed.



posted on Sep, 22 2020 @ 08:59 AM
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The moves come as Democratic state governors in Michigan and California and bourgeois courts have blocked the Socialist Equality Party’s candidates from the ballot, forcing them to gather signatures despite the coronavirus pandemic.


It’s almost like people accusing the Democratic Party of being socialist have no idea what the term means. And are just running with the warped right wing idea of calling everything they don’t like socialism.


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posted on Sep, 22 2020 @ 09:12 AM
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originally posted by: peter_kandra
a reply to: Bearack

Do we know why they were removed?
It it was due to a procedural error, then that's on the party that was removed.



From what I read, in most cases it's because they haven't met all of the requirements to appear on the ballot.

The Greens are arguing some of the requirements, such as collecting x number of signatures, should be waived in light of the Covid pandemic. The Democrats don't care.

The irony is thick, considering Democrats want most of the mail-in voting requirements waived, like signature verification and ballots arriving by election day, and if challenged they just say people shouldn't have to vote in person because of Covid.


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posted on Sep, 22 2020 @ 09:16 AM
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a reply to: underwerks

Just like people calling trump a fascist...

Buzz words are fun


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posted on Sep, 22 2020 @ 09:20 AM
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originally posted by: underwerks
a reply to: Bearack


The moves come as Democratic state governors in Michigan and California and bourgeois courts have blocked the Socialist Equality Party’s candidates from the ballot, forcing them to gather signatures despite the coronavirus pandemic.


It’s almost like people accusing the Democratic Party of being socialist have no idea what the term means. And are just running with the warped right wing idea of calling everything they don’t like socialism.

Somehow, you managed to make this about the right wing.
Congratulations.



posted on Sep, 22 2020 @ 09:24 AM
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Makes you wonder if that was a fringe right-wing party if they would be so stringent? I'll have to check and see if the Libertarian candidates makes it on all ballots.

Looks like in Pennsylvania the Green party got thrown off the ballot because they didn't file thier paperwork "in person". All the while with the state government stressing COVID concerns. Even the Washington Post makes no bones about it, the Democrats pushed it because they were worried it would siphon off votes in the batlleground keystone state.

It was the second such ruling in a week. On Monday, the Wisconsin Supreme Court found deficiencies in the Green Party’s ballot petition in that state, excluding the party from the ballot.

The latest decision is another blow to the third-party ticket and a win for Democrats, who worried that the Green Party could siphon votes from presidential nominee Joe Biden in the key battleground state.

www.washingtonpost.com...



edit on 22-9-2020 by putnam6 because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 22 2020 @ 09:28 AM
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originally posted by: Bluntone22
a reply to: underwerks

Just like people calling trump a fascist...

Buzz words are fun


Not a buzzword, historical precedent.


In his 1995 essay "Ur-Fascism", cultural theorist Umberto Eco lists fourteen general properties of fascist ideology.[21] He argues that it is not possible to organise these into a coherent system, but that "it is enough that one of them be present to allow fascism to coagulate around it". He uses the term "Ur-fascism" as a generic description of different historical forms of fascism. The fourteen properties are as follows:

"The Cult of Tradition", characterized by cultural syncretism, even at the risk of internal contradiction. When all truth has already been revealed by Tradition, no new learning can occur, only further interpretation and refinement.

"The Rejection of modernism", which views the rationalistic development of Western culture since the Enlightenment as a descent into depravity. Eco distinguishes this from a rejection of superficial technological advancement, as many fascist regimes cite their industrial potency as proof of the vitality of their system.

"The Cult of Action for Action's Sake", which dictates that action is of value in itself, and should be taken without intellectual reflection. This, says Eco, is connected with anti-intellectualism and irrationalism, and often manifests in attacks on modern culture and science.

"Disagreement Is Treason" – Fascism devalues intellectual discourse and critical reasoning as barriers to action, as well as out of fear that such analysis will expose the contradictions embodied in a syncretistic faith.

"Fear of Difference", which fascism seeks to exploit and exacerbate, often in the form of racism or an appeal against foreigners and immigrants.

"Appeal to a Frustrated Middle Class", fearing economic pressure from the demands and aspirations of lower social groups.

"Obsession with a Plot" and the hyping-up of an enemy threat. This often combines an appeal to xenophobia with a fear of disloyalty and sabotage from marginalized groups living within the society (such as the German elite's 'fear' of the 1930s Jewish populace's businesses and well-doings; see also anti-Semitism). Eco also cites Pat Robertson's book The New World Order as a prominent example of a plot obsession. Fascist societies rhetorically cast their enemies as "at the same time too strong and too weak." On the one hand, fascists play up the power of certain disfavored elites to encourage in their followers a sense of grievance and humiliation. On the other hand, fascist leaders point to the decadence of those elites as proof of their ultimate feebleness in the face of an overwhelming popular will.

"Pacifism is Trafficking with the Enemy" because "Life is Permanent Warfare" – there must always be an enemy to fight. Both fascist Germany under Hitler and Italy under Mussolini worked first to organize and clean up their respective countries and then build the war machines that they later intended to and did use, despite Germany being under restrictions of the Versailles treaty to not build a military force. This principle leads to a fundamental contradiction within fascism: the incompatibility of ultimate triumph with perpetual war.

"Contempt for the Weak", which is uncomfortably married to a chauvinistic popular elitism, in which every member of society is superior to outsiders by virtue of belonging to the in-group. Eco sees in these attitudes the root of a deep tension in the fundamentally hierarchical structure of fascist polities, as they encourage leaders to despise their underlings, up to the ultimate Leader who holds the whole country in contempt for having allowed him to overtake it by force.

"Everybody is Educated to Become a Hero", which leads to the embrace of a cult of death. As Eco observes, "[t]he Ur-Fascist hero is impatient to die. In his impatience, he more frequently sends other people to death."

"Machismo", which sublimates the difficult work of permanent war and heroism into the sexual sphere. Fascists thus hold "both disdain for women and intolerance and condemnation of nonstandard sexual habits, from chastity to homosexuality."

"Selective Populism" – The People, conceived monolithically, have a Common Will, distinct from and superior to the viewpoint of any individual. As no mass of people can ever be truly unanimous, the Leader holds himself out as the interpreter of the popular will (though truly he dictates it). Fascists use this concept to delegitimize democratic institutions they accuse of "no longer represent[ing] the Voice of the People."

"Newspeak" – Fascism employs and promotes an impoverished vocabulary in order to limit critical reasoning.


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Though I wouldn’t expect anyone to understand that who traffics in the neo-conservative idea that words can mean whatever you want them to.



posted on Sep, 22 2020 @ 09:28 AM
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a reply to: Bearack

It wasn't just signatures, they were also removed in Republican Texas due to not paying filing fees however the Texas Supreme Court ruled that they don't have to pay their fees and to be restored to the ballot. Everyone's playing politics.



posted on Sep, 22 2020 @ 09:32 AM
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originally posted by: underwerks
a reply to: Bearack


The moves come as Democratic state governors in Michigan and California and bourgeois courts have blocked the Socialist Equality Party’s candidates from the ballot, forcing them to gather signatures despite the coronavirus pandemic.


It’s almost like people accusing the Democratic Party of being socialist have no idea what the term means. And are just running with the warped right wing idea of calling everything they don’t like socialism.


Not that anything you just said is true, but you surely can't be against the other side calling anything they don't like "socialism" when your party thrives on screaming "racist" at anyone who doesn't follow lockstep with their opinions.

Talk about hitting below rock bottom... You're to the point of just throwing whatever you can out there just to see yourself say it. I guess in your opinion that makes it true.




posted on Sep, 22 2020 @ 09:34 AM
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a reply to: LSU2018

Yep... Buzzwords.



posted on Sep, 22 2020 @ 09:34 AM
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originally posted by: butcherguy

originally posted by: underwerks
a reply to: Bearack


The moves come as Democratic state governors in Michigan and California and bourgeois courts have blocked the Socialist Equality Party’s candidates from the ballot, forcing them to gather signatures despite the coronavirus pandemic.


It’s almost like people accusing the Democratic Party of being socialist have no idea what the term means. And are just running with the warped right wing idea of calling everything they don’t like socialism.

Somehow, you managed to make this about the right wing.
Congratulations.


Responsibility isn't something they take kindly to. The party of "I Dindunuffin"



posted on Sep, 22 2020 @ 09:36 AM
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originally posted by: butcherguy

originally posted by: underwerks
a reply to: Bearack


The moves come as Democratic state governors in Michigan and California and bourgeois courts have blocked the Socialist Equality Party’s candidates from the ballot, forcing them to gather signatures despite the coronavirus pandemic.


It’s almost like people accusing the Democratic Party of being socialist have no idea what the term means. And are just running with the warped right wing idea of calling everything they don’t like socialism.

Somehow, you managed to make this about the right wing.
Congratulations.


Just pointing out a major fallacy in the way this story is framed.

No thanks needed.




posted on Sep, 22 2020 @ 09:41 AM
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I would think it was unconstitutional for the Democrats to kick the green party candidates off of ballots, it is crazy too.

People have the internet, the people supporting those candidates will know that their choice was sabataged by the Democrats. I would think that the Justice department would automatically go after the people who did that. Oh yeah, in those states, the majority of the Judges are Democrats at the top...sorry, we do not have the freedoms we are supposed to have.



posted on Sep, 22 2020 @ 09:47 AM
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a reply to: LSU2018


when your party thrives on screaming "racist" at anyone



The party of "I Dindunuffin"


Lmao.



posted on Sep, 22 2020 @ 09:48 AM
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Montana I think it was had people that signed the petition got hot with a barrage of phone calls till folks recanted and that was justification to kick the greens.



posted on Sep, 22 2020 @ 10:17 AM
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originally posted by: underwerks

originally posted by: Bluntone22
a reply to: underwerks

Just like people calling trump a fascist...

Buzz words are fun


Not a buzzword, historical precedent.


In his 1995 essay "Ur-Fascism", cultural theorist Umberto Eco lists fourteen general properties of fascist ideology.[21] He argues that it is not possible to organise these into a coherent system, but that "it is enough that one of them be present to allow fascism to coagulate around it". He uses the term "Ur-fascism" as a generic description of different historical forms of fascism. The fourteen properties are as follows:

"The Cult of Tradition", characterized by cultural syncretism, even at the risk of internal contradiction. When all truth has already been revealed by Tradition, no new learning can occur, only further interpretation and refinement.

"The Rejection of modernism", which views the rationalistic development of Western culture since the Enlightenment as a descent into depravity. Eco distinguishes this from a rejection of superficial technological advancement, as many fascist regimes cite their industrial potency as proof of the vitality of their system.

"The Cult of Action for Action's Sake", which dictates that action is of value in itself, and should be taken without intellectual reflection. This, says Eco, is connected with anti-intellectualism and irrationalism, and often manifests in attacks on modern culture and science.

"Disagreement Is Treason" – Fascism devalues intellectual discourse and critical reasoning as barriers to action, as well as out of fear that such analysis will expose the contradictions embodied in a syncretistic faith.

"Fear of Difference", which fascism seeks to exploit and exacerbate, often in the form of racism or an appeal against foreigners and immigrants.

"Appeal to a Frustrated Middle Class", fearing economic pressure from the demands and aspirations of lower social groups.

"Obsession with a Plot" and the hyping-up of an enemy threat. This often combines an appeal to xenophobia with a fear of disloyalty and sabotage from marginalized groups living within the society (such as the German elite's 'fear' of the 1930s Jewish populace's businesses and well-doings; see also anti-Semitism). Eco also cites Pat Robertson's book The New World Order as a prominent example of a plot obsession. Fascist societies rhetorically cast their enemies as "at the same time too strong and too weak." On the one hand, fascists play up the power of certain disfavored elites to encourage in their followers a sense of grievance and humiliation. On the other hand, fascist leaders point to the decadence of those elites as proof of their ultimate feebleness in the face of an overwhelming popular will.

"Pacifism is Trafficking with the Enemy" because "Life is Permanent Warfare" – there must always be an enemy to fight. Both fascist Germany under Hitler and Italy under Mussolini worked first to organize and clean up their respective countries and then build the war machines that they later intended to and did use, despite Germany being under restrictions of the Versailles treaty to not build a military force. This principle leads to a fundamental contradiction within fascism: the incompatibility of ultimate triumph with perpetual war.

"Contempt for the Weak", which is uncomfortably married to a chauvinistic popular elitism, in which every member of society is superior to outsiders by virtue of belonging to the in-group. Eco sees in these attitudes the root of a deep tension in the fundamentally hierarchical structure of fascist polities, as they encourage leaders to despise their underlings, up to the ultimate Leader who holds the whole country in contempt for having allowed him to overtake it by force.

"Everybody is Educated to Become a Hero", which leads to the embrace of a cult of death. As Eco observes, "[t]he Ur-Fascist hero is impatient to die. In his impatience, he more frequently sends other people to death."

"Machismo", which sublimates the difficult work of permanent war and heroism into the sexual sphere. Fascists thus hold "both disdain for women and intolerance and condemnation of nonstandard sexual habits, from chastity to homosexuality."

"Selective Populism" – The People, conceived monolithically, have a Common Will, distinct from and superior to the viewpoint of any individual. As no mass of people can ever be truly unanimous, the Leader holds himself out as the interpreter of the popular will (though truly he dictates it). Fascists use this concept to delegitimize democratic institutions they accuse of "no longer represent[ing] the Voice of the People."

"Newspeak" – Fascism employs and promotes an impoverished vocabulary in order to limit critical reasoning.


Link

Though I wouldn’t expect anyone to understand that who traffics in the neo-conservative idea that words can mean whatever you want them to.


Everything quoted here we've seen the democratic party blantanly do since the 2016 election. The left wanted Trump to be a dictator and then screamed when he wasn't during the height of pandemic.

One minute you're yelling he's racist for closing the borders, next minute he didn't do enough. And on and on and on. I'm not entirely sure how your perception was guided into reverse, but facism is anything but Trump or the republican party. Those Peaceful Protestors burning down police stations certainly isn't democracy.



posted on Sep, 22 2020 @ 10:34 AM
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a reply to: Flesh699

You're wasting your time.
You can't have a civil discussion with people that believe they are your moral and intellectual superior.



posted on Sep, 22 2020 @ 10:53 AM
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originally posted by: underwerks
a reply to: Bearack


The moves come as Democratic state governors in Michigan and California and bourgeois courts have blocked the Socialist Equality Party’s candidates from the ballot, forcing them to gather signatures despite the coronavirus pandemic.


It’s almost like people accusing the Democratic Party of being socialist have no idea what the term means. And are just running with the warped right wing idea of calling everything they don’t like socialism.


I'm sorry. Would you prefer fascist? Whatever you want to call it - it is the party of authoritarian rule and it doesn't matter if that's socialist, communist, fascist, or even a monarchy it all works out the same in the end. They tell you how to live, what you can and can't have, etc.



posted on Sep, 22 2020 @ 11:01 AM
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reverse-rig any means necessary 😃



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