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posted on Sep, 19 2020 @ 09:28 PM
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So it seems "realness" is relative to the observer. But why is your mind at war over what is real or not. Its not the destination which is importance, only the journey. So don't let dogma weigh against your mind. Be real to yourself and the path you need to walk. If that be science. Then that science be real.

My mind is not at war with the real, but rather at war with people who think the real is an illusion.

The plants and birds and rocks and things,
The sand and hills.
They are real whether I am among them at the moment or not.
You see I've been through the desert without a horse.

Humanity will go on until it can't no more,
We're animals, like the other animals,
subject to extinction like the rest.

I don't know about any one else, but I'm just running against the wind.



posted on Sep, 19 2020 @ 09:45 PM
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a reply to: Metallicus

So let us praise God that
DOE is led by a non-education specialist who is anti-public education
and EPA is run to counter environmentalism
and Interior is run for Petroleum and gas
and NOAA is now headed by Climate change denialists
and DOJ is run by a monarchist
and Covid 19 task force is headed by a non virologist, non epidemiologist.

We are truly great again.
The middle ages were wonderful.
We're being saved from nasty old science.



posted on Sep, 19 2020 @ 10:10 PM
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originally posted by: igloo
a reply to: JAGStorm

I was pretty shocked when I first heard about roundup being used as a dessicant here in canada because I use straw as bedding for my animals and they often eat it which should be ok but now isn't. Asked at the feed store I buy it at and no one knows any of this nor can trace back the source.

People here also use straw as mulch on their gardens and the straw is just those very plants killed by the round up. This practice isn't super widespread but it has me wondering as I have a few patches in my garden that I dumped some old straw and nothing grows in it. I was delighted by that at first until I realized this might be the reason.


Unauthorized use of our Roundup™ : is noted.
Our lawyers will be in touch.

Monsanto™/Bayer™.
" We own Science™ " !



posted on Sep, 19 2020 @ 10:29 PM
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a reply to: Nothin

Alright! Do you want the weird stuff now?
On the other thread, you brought up alcohol and mandalas and whatnot. It just so happens that the bee sting story starts out with alcohol.

I was writing away and realized that I was getting sort of lost in the telling, and it needed some balance for crying out loud. Shamanism and Tau is all about balance. So I needed to do the balance part first.

Because, in the hymn of the Cult of the Missing Link, it is obvious that it isn't a lack of spirituality that leads to extinction but rather a lack of appreciation for the materially physical, which can be described by scientific terms.


Without further ado, here is the unfinished first draft of the unfinished

Bee Sting and the Sinister




It was the Spring of 1970 and I was mowing the lawn for an old woman. I don't remember if I was getting paid for that gig or if this was one of the projects that my mother set up to keep me out of the hospital, jail, or other mayhem and trouble.

There is that old proverb "Idle hands are the devil's play ground". Now that I've spent some time thinking about this, I wonder if there is a similar proverb with regards to over-active imaginations.

Maybe, just maybe, if I hadn't come up with that practical joke to play on the nurses strapping me down on the table while the doctors discussed stomach pumping and other unpleasant sounding things, they wouldn't have been so eager to hand me over to the cops so readily. Oh well, hindsight and all that. I'm not going to say what the joke was though because it was a shameful thing, but it did involve the loosening of the straps, which did seem to be at least one of the objectives I had in mind.

I guess I was the winner of that champagne, scotch whiskey, and cheap red wine guzzling contest. Mike and Larry were already out of sight as I attempted, not altogether successfully, to weave my way to their house. Then Mr. Anderson with his red goatee was helping me up. "I called the ambulance" he said, "It's on the way."

"What?" I asked, "Why?"

"I was looking out the window and saw that car hit you." he explained.

"What car?" I asked, "I didn't see any car."

"Oh, there's the ambulance now." was his only reply, then to the EMTs "I'll hold him."

Nope. Mr. Anderson didn't hold me. I took off running up the side dirt road. At least I thought I was running. Maybe it was some acrobatic multi flip, as I watched the sky and ground chasing each other in a nice pirouette. Then there was the stretcher and the straps. What's up with all the straps?

So after the practical joke on the nurses, the cops came in to the emergency room while I was still unstrapped, more chasing, more restraints, metal ones.

I must have slept through the ride to jail because the next thing I remember was what the cops were doing, laughing while doing it.

My mom told me later how they shamed and humiliated her when she came to get me. "Do you hear those wild animal noises?" one of the cops asked her, "That's your son." I'm sure they hid the cattle prods before they brought me out of the cell though because she didn't mention them.

So that's why my mom was anxious to find useful, productive things for me to do. To avoid hearing the wild animal noises and the accompanying shame.

The old woman had a really nice front yard with the orange trees spread far enough apart that the Sun light was not blocked. Grass likes plenty of sunlight. The bees were going from orange blossom to orange blossom. A pleasant Spring day in which to cut the grass.

The old woman (I do wish that I knew her name, it would seem so much more dignified than just old woman) brought out a nice cold glass of lemonade. "You're so lucky to be young in these times." She told me, handing me the glass.

I took a big swig and asked, "Why is that?"

"Because" she replied, "I'm too old now to be living in the last day, when Jesus returns. I'm going to die before then, but you, you can live to be translated to heaven without seeing death."

I took another big sip from the glass as she continued, "When I was just a little girl the preachers were saying all the signs are fulfilled, Jesus can return any day now, so be ready."

After finishing the lemonade, and holding the glass to my lips to catch some of the melted ice, she continued, "My whole life I waited and waited, but the last day never came. Would you like some more lemonade?"

"No, thank you." Before I handed the glass to her, I dumped some of the ice into my hand and rubbed the melting ice over my face. She went back in the house and I pulled the mower starter cord and continued mowing the grass.

As I passed by one of the trees, I turned my head to my right, to look at the orange blossoms, and noticed a bee on my right short shirt sleeve. "If I don't bother it" I thought, "then it won't bother me."

Five minutes later, though, there was quite a bad stinging sensation from my right shoulder. The bee was gone but the stinger, with the strategically placed barbs for working its way in, was left in my shirt with the muscle action pumping away to inject the venom. I pulled the cloth away from my skin then flicked the stinger off with my fingernail.

It is very important to point out the difference between left and right here. It is central to the conspiracy. Left is sinister and right is dexter, from the holy Latin, I think. Sinister, in the dictionaries is evil, deceitful, and just plain bad. It's the black magic compared to the wonderful white magic of the right.

My mom died that Summer, so it was all up to me to stay out of trouble, hospital, and jail. I was mostly successful with that. There was that one time on a very cold Winter night when the cops decided that standing naked in that small room with that high up window that had bars but no glass, open to the well below freezing temperatures was a good idea. Who's to say what a good idea is anyway. The rules have changed since then haven't they?


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posted on Sep, 19 2020 @ 10:38 PM
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I eventually grew bored with delinquency, so at the ripe old age of 16 I turned to Christ and God and got somewhat sorted out. At least I thought it was Christ and God, I was at a Jesus People meeting anyway.

I did spend a pretty good couple of months just reading through the whole Bible, but the seemingly inevitable happened, Eschatology, End of the World, hellacious persecution and tribulations. Pretend Christians, carrying flags, Bibles, and rifles dragging people into the streets and shooting them with the full approval of the United World Christian Coalition and their U.S. Government wing. Really violent stuff.

Not only did I read this stuff, but with that already in mind, I heard a sermon about it too. I'm sort of sensitive when it comes to the prospect of something terrible like that happening in the near future. Now mind you, this was the 1970s, when Hal Lindsey's book The Late Great Planet Earth was the nations top selling book, claiming that The End would be about 1988.

So all this apocalyptic nightmare was permeating society, in different versions of course, depending upon whether one happened to be pre-trib, or post-trib, or pre-millennial, or dispensationalist, or Supersessionist. The End was upon us all, one way or another. So you can imagine how a sensitive 17 year old like myself was feeling; very freaked out!

Under stressful conditions like that, it wasn't such a big deal for the very air in front of me to part, and there in the typical almond shaped portal stood two people. This brings up another question about just how normal it is for such visitations or visions to not actually say anything in words, like nothing spoken, and the seer is just left to his or own devices to figure out what is meant by these visions.

So seriously, think back to the three or four times this has happened to you. Did the god-like people actually speak to you or did you just make up a likely conversation? Do you just reach your own conclusion about what the god-like apparitions mean by tearing the fabric of reality in such a way?

Now remember what has been previously written about the dexter and the sinister. The almond shaped portal was not directly in front of me, nor was it to the right. It was to the sinister side. And the closest being held out his sinister hand to me. Now this is where the guessing comes in. He didn't actually say, "Fear not." It just seemed to me that that is what he would have said if he had said anything in words.

Now I'm going to throw a bit of hind sight in here. I lived through the civil rights era of the 60s, with the protests turned to riots and the burning cities. I've lived through the Viet Nam War era with the bodies returning and the protests and the funerals, and the shootings by national guard, the assassinations, mass shootings, civil wars, revolutions, dictators killing their own people, wars, rumors of wars, incitements to war, warmongering propaganda, patriotism turned chauvinist turn jingoist, terrorist attacks, cults gone wrong and deadly results. I've seen a lot, been in some of this stuff even; seen a lot of people die. Dying isn't some weird thing. Even dying violently at the hands of Bible toting fanatics isn't all so very weird.

Just imagine what it looks like to see a cheering, jeering crowd at a beheading, through the eyes of the beheaded. Is it all so terribly weird if a frenzied group of vigilantes shoots me in the street? No. Not at all. It's happened to so many thousands of people already. The World didn't end. No saviour came down from heaven to stop it.



posted on Sep, 19 2020 @ 10:47 PM
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That indeterminate anecdote of yours recalled my first real demonstration of "mind over matter." My father made holes in clouds by force of will in a fast, repeatable manner that left no personal room for doubt. It was interesting that he seemed to expend energy to do it and needed hours to recover.

When I asked the obvious, "Why don't you go to the nearest lab and show them this?!"

He chuckled and said that others had, already, but added "would YOU want to show this to some authority only to then be at the mercy of a bureaucracy? Maybe lose your freedom? Dissection?" He went on to say that he showed me this to educate me that the mind was far more powerful than most know.

It is curious that so called "psychic" phenomena is so difficult to prove in a concrete manner, though some efforts report to have done it. It almost seems like there is a spooky control system in place to thwart most attempts. I've also considered that the effort to scientifically prove mind's direct effects on matter resembles similar futile efforts made in one's dreams.

I guess my lost point was that "woo" is only "woo" when the underlying scientific mechanisms at work are unknown, and so teaching limitations about what is possible may hinder actual discovery.

Beats me how one would construct a curriculum tho!



posted on Sep, 19 2020 @ 11:05 PM
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Since I've got the picture of Aqualung in the thread already, might as well play some Locomotive Breath


So round about 1997 I was at this UFOlogist/Reiki healers house, chatting with his wife while he was gone. She read my palm and said, "Well that's odd, ... maybe I should do a Tarot card reading."

So we shuffled the cards all nicely, taking turns, then she laid them out in the pattern I'd seen once before. She was just learning the Tarot, so she got her book out to decipher the meaning.

But I was looking at it and knew what it meant, "Says here, all I've got to do to achieve my heart's desire is flip the Universe upside down. Well ... hmm... and I should stay away from Fire Women."

She started to smile a very strange smile as I started backing away.

"Oh, don't tell me, you're Fire"

Her smile got bigger, as I excused myself quickly from the house.

Now about that flipping the Universe, let's just say that that may have been a misinterpretation on my part. What if:

Yin Yang.

Most Westerners read from left to right so they think Yin is light and yang is dark. Not so. Chinese is read right to left. That flips things right around.

Notice the Sinister is light and Dexter is dark.

Tada! My heart's desire!


It would be nice to share such a thing. But what if it's a personal thing just for me? Then What? Can I truly be happy alone?
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posted on Sep, 19 2020 @ 11:16 PM
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It was interesting that he seemed to expend energy to do it and needed hours to recover.

Magic takes energy. I never found any spells written by others that worked for me. For me it's a passion energy, like I have to be personally passionate about something. That can be negative or positive. It's easier to break than to build.

I don't particularly want to be a Vulcan or an ascetic, so I try to be mellow and happy, and put the Che into the stories and poems. Writing with passion does use the energy.



posted on Sep, 20 2020 @ 12:47 AM
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"My mind is not at war with the real, but rather at war with people who think the real is an illusion."

But it really isn't about protecting reality, is it. What you are protecting is your self ego, against those that you percieve threaten it. Spirituality isn't magic. Its not something that add's to us. Its about stripping away the restraints of ego so we become free of its trappings. So looking at religion as a means to attain magic (become special) will guarantee failure.

Western religions added magic to their stories to attract the imagination of the masses. But truth is often masked within the stories to tell what was, Perhaps the son of father had to die (figuratively) so son of the father could live. That son perhaps being bar-jesus. In seeking truth we must be prepared to dismiss all our preconceptions. all our heroes, all our desires. To allow our I AM to shine.

Just breathing in reality. Not expecting to live forever or not, is a means of progressing. Progressing to what, who knows, who cares. As long as we not stagnating in dreams of past/present in mind, living as zomnies in a world singing to the tune of the ice-cream men. Just existing rather than being. That is not life. That is death.



posted on Sep, 20 2020 @ 01:26 AM
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originally posted by: LABTECH767
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And perhaps this is a load of crap and the truth is destined to remain beyond us.

“What Is Truth?”

THAT question was cynically posed to Jesus by the Roman Governor Pontius Pilate. He was not interested in an answer, and Jesus did not give him one. Perhaps Pilate viewed truth as too elusive to grasp.​—John 18:38.

This disdainful attitude toward truth is shared by many today, including religious leaders, educators, and politicians. They hold that truth​—especially moral and spiritual truth—​is not absolute but relative and ever changing. This, of course, implies that people can determine for themselves what is right and what is wrong. (Isaiah 5:20, 21) It also allows people to reject as out-of-date the values and moral standards held by past generations.

The statement that prompted Pilate’s question is worth noting. Jesus had said: “For this I have been born, and for this I have come into the world, that I should bear witness to the truth.” (John 18:37) Truth to Jesus was no vague, incomprehensible concept. He promised his disciples: “You will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.”​—John 8:32.

Where can such truth be found? On one occasion, Jesus said in prayer to God: “Your word is truth.” (John 17:17) The Bible, written under divine inspiration, reveals truth that provides both reliable guidance and a sure hope for the future​—everlasting life.​—2 Timothy 3:15-17.

Pilate indifferently rejected the opportunity to learn such truth. What about you? ...

“You will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.” (John 8:32) These oft-quoted words of wisdom were spoken by a man whom millions view as the greatest man who ever lived. Although the speaker was referring to religious truth, in certain respects truth in any field of activity can set people free.

Scientific truth, for example, has freed people from many false ideas, such as that the earth is flat, that the earth is the center of the universe, that heat is a fluid called caloric, that foul air causes epidemics, and that the atom is the smallest particle of matter. The practical application of scientific truths in industry, as well as in the fields of communication and transportation, has freed people from unnecessary drudgery and, to a degree, from the limitations of time and distance. Scientific truths applied in preventive medicine and health-care have helped free people from premature death or a morbid fear of disease.

Science​—What Is It?

According to The World Book Encyclopedia, “science covers the broad field of human knowledge concerned with facts held together by principles (rules).” Understandably, there are various kinds of science. The book The Scientist claims: “In theory, almost any kind of knowledge might be made scientific, since by definition a branch of knowledge becomes a science when it is pursued in the spirit of the scientific method.”

This makes for some difficulty in defining, with any precision, where one science begins and another ends. In fact, according to The World Book Encyclopedia, “in some cases, sciences may overlap so much that interdisciplinary fields have been established that combine parts of two or more sciences.” Nevertheless, most reference works speak of four main divisions: physical sciences, biological sciences, social sciences, and the science of mathematics and logic.

Mathematics a science? Yes, without some unified method of measurement, some way of determining how large, how small, how many, how few, how far, how near, how hot, and how cold, productive scientific investigation would have been impossible. So not without reason, mathematics has been called the “Queen and Servant of the Sciences.”

As for physical sciences, these include chemistry, physics, and astronomy. The main biological sciences are botany and zoology, while social sciences include anthropology, sociology, economics, political science, and psychology.

A distinction must be made between pure science and applied science. The former deals purely with the scientific facts and principles themselves; the latter, with their practical application. Today applied science is also known as technology.

One should probably also keep in mind that the English word “science” comes from the Latin word “scientia”, meaning “knowledge”. Essentially, knowledge means familiarity with facts/truths/certainties/realities acquired by personal experience, observation, or study; or basically a familiarity with things that are factual/true/certain/absolute/correct, without error (these are all synonyms where you see a /). I'm pointing this out because of a phenomena that I have termed “the philosophy of vagueness” on previous occasions, but I don't really want to get into that now (there's a connection with what the South Park writers have termed “The Agnostic Code” and the popular mantra and contradictory philosophy often phrased in various ways: 'science does not deal with absolutes', 'nothing is (proven) certain in science/the sciences' or as you phrased that general notion “the main tenet of all science is that a Theory may be supported by evidence but NEVER proven beyond a doubt”, but that's all I'll say about that now).

Learning by Trial and Error

Scientific truth is not revealed; it is discovered. This necessitates a system of trial and error, with the searcher for scientific truth often finding himself in a fruitless endeavor. But by systematically following four steps, he pursues a fruitful search.* Nevertheless, scientific victories are celebrated on the ruins of scientific defeats as formerly accepted views are rejected to make way for new ones viewed as more nearly correct.

Despite this hit-and-miss method, scientists have over the centuries built up an amazing amount of scientific knowledge. Although often mistaken, they have been able to correct many inaccurate conclusions before serious damage was done. In fact, as long as faulty knowledge stays within the realm of pure science, the danger of inflicting serious harm is minimal. But when attempts are made to transform seriously flawed pure science into applied science, the results can be disastrous.

Take, for example, the scientific know-how that made possible the development of insecticides. These were highly valued until further scientific research revealed that some of them leave residues harmful to human health. In certain communities near the Aral sea, located in Uzbekistan and Kazakhstan, a link has been established between the widespread use of such insecticides and a rate of esophageal cancer seven times the national average.

Because of the convenience they offered, aerosol sprays became quite popular​—until scientific investigation suggested that they were contributing to the destruction of the earth’s protective ozone layer, more quickly, in fact, than was once thought. Therefore, the search for scientific truth is an ongoing operation. So-called scientific “truths” of today may be tomorrow’s mistaken, and possibly even dangerous, ideas of yesterday.





The Pagan Religious Roots of Evolutionary Philosophies and Philosophical Naturalism (part 1 of 2)

*: ARRIVING AT TRUTH THE SCIENTIFIC WAY

  • 1. Observe what happens.
  • 2. Based on those observations, form a theory as to what may be true.
  • 3. Test the theory by further observations and by experiments.
  • 4. Watch to see if the predictions based on the theory come true.


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posted on Sep, 20 2020 @ 01:33 AM
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But it really isn't about protecting reality, is it.

No. Reality isn't threatened.



What you are protecting is your self ego, against those that you percieve threaten it.

Time enough to have no ego when I'm dead. Ego is not a dirty word to me.



Spirituality isn't magic. Its not something that add's to us. Its about stripping away the restraints of ego so we become free of its trappings. So looking at religion as a means to attain magic (become special) will guarantee failure.

I'm not quite clear on what spirituality is. Is it breathing? Is it being? Is it living? If so, then alrighty then. Magic isn't so special. I have come to the conclusion that there is no circumstance in which doing it is better than not doing it. So I don't.



Just existing rather than being. That is not life. That is death.

Maybe. I'll think about it.



posted on Sep, 20 2020 @ 01:43 AM
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When science has reached it's pinnacle and knows everything
there is to know. It will still have one endless frontier.

God



posted on Sep, 20 2020 @ 01:58 AM
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The cannon balls still worked before people knew they flew in a parabel and not a straight line and then drop.
All I'm saying is that the things we can say with a satisfying degree of certainty, enough to call them facts, is growing but science itself is guilty of the same as many people are:
It's more comfortable to think you know than to wonder and doubt.
Like the Big Bang that's a theory that's not working, which obviously is based more on the effects of a religious indoctrination than honest research and reliable evidence.
Science is done by humans.
Humans fail sometimes.
Science can fail.

Which is not denying that we know more than people 2000 or 100 or 20 years ago did. Just that in the realm of speculation/philosophy/realisation that leads to new and larger concepts it's not just religion that's still stuck on ideas of the olds.
That's my personal "j'accuse"



posted on Sep, 20 2020 @ 02:09 AM
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Now suppose I were a panentheist (the divine pervades and interpenetrates every part of the universe and also extends beyond space and time). Not that I am. But I may be something like that.

Then studying physical reality would be Theology. And just being in the God place (physical reality) would be as good as it gets.

Maybe. Seems pretty good to me right now. Maybe I can refine that later, but I doubt that I can.



posted on Sep, 20 2020 @ 02:24 AM
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science itself is guilty of the same as many people are:
It's more comfortable to think you know than to wonder and doubt.

It's natural for people to want certainty. Dogmatism is a human tendency.



Like the Big Bang that's a theory that's not working, which obviously is based more on the effects of a religious indoctrination than honest research and reliable evidence.

Astrophysicists work on that out of this world stuff. There are quite a few theories, hard for any to get mainstreamed. I'm not an astrophysicist so I don't have any particular reason to favor one above another. There's enough stuff on Earth for me to concern myself with in the few years I have left (hopefully). I would like a chance to clean my hard drive and destroy some CD ROM disks before I die. Embarrassing stuff.



posted on Sep, 20 2020 @ 03:39 AM
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It’s snot real it’s all just theories.

a reply to: pthena



posted on Sep, 20 2020 @ 10:35 AM
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“Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind.”- Einstein



posted on Sep, 20 2020 @ 11:15 AM
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It’s snot real it’s all just theories.

I like puns. Let's see if I have a punishing come back.
On second thought, forget the pun-ish idea.

So I looked up Science in the Wikipedia:

a systematic enterprise that builds and organizes knowledge in the form of testable explanations and predictions about the universe.


The noun in the sentence is enterprise. According to the Cambridge English Dictionary, enterprise seems to have gone commercial, as a money making plan. So let's check out Merriam-Webster:

1: a project or undertaking that is especially difficult, complicated, or risky
2a: a unit of economic organization or activity
especially : a business organization
b: a systematic purposeful activity
3: readiness to engage in daring or difficult action : INITIATIVE

So Science is an enterprise that builds.

Let's take a bridge spanning a river.
Start with a blue print.
That's a real thing that you can hold in your hand and look at.
And when the wind blows it out of your hand
and it rests on the ground then you have
what is known as a fact on the ground.

After the blue print is retrieved by the gopher
chasing it, almost reaching it and then the wind
blows it out of reach again, until finally catching it,
then the bridge building can commence.

Fast forward ...
The bridge is now a fact on the ground
and people and vehicles may then cross it for real
without getting wet,
unless it's raining of course.
In which case they should have brought an umbrella.

No, actually Science builds and organizes knowledge necessary to build the bridge.
Theoretically then, people applying science can build a safe bridge.

It's been done before. It works for real.



posted on Sep, 20 2020 @ 11:51 AM
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I found this interesting article about that (in)famous quote.
Childish superstition: Einstein's letter makes view of religion relatively clear

Einstein penned the letter on January 3 1954 to the philosopher Eric Gutkind who had sent him a copy of his book Choose Life: The Biblical Call to Revolt. The letter went on public sale a year later and has remained in private hands ever since.

In the letter, he states: "The word god is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of honourable, but still primitive legends which are nevertheless pretty childish. No interpretation no matter how subtle can (for me) change this."
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His parents were not religious but he attended a Catholic primary school and at the same time received private tuition in Judaism. This prompted what he later called, his "religious paradise of youth", during which he observed religious rules such as not eating pork. This did not last long though and by 12 he was questioning the truth of many biblical stories.

"The consequence was a positively fanatic [orgy of] freethinking coupled with the impression that youth is being deceived by the state through lies; it was a crushing impression," he later wrote.
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"Like other great scientists he does not fit the boxes in which popular polemicists like to pigeonhole him," said Brooke. "It is clear for example that he had respect for the religious values enshrined within Judaic and Christian traditions ... but what he understood by religion was something far more subtle than what is usually meant by the word in popular discussion."

Despite his categorical rejection of conventional religion, Brooke said that Einstein became angry when his views were appropriated by evangelists for atheism. He was offended by their lack of humility and once wrote. "The eternal mystery of the world is its comprehensibility."

Since I have been either in or around Christianity my whole life, I would say that this song incapsulates what the Christian Religion could and in my view should be.

And if you remove certain concepts which are specific to Christianity, and even specific to Homo Sapiens, you may get some idea of what I consider to be good religion.
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posted on Sep, 20 2020 @ 12:43 PM
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Science is based on the firm beleif that the scientist can be removed from the experiment. (subject / object) This has never been proven and certain fields within Quantam mechanics suggests its false.

Science is theories. Theories are not reality.



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