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Are we headed for a crisis of morality which goes beyond the ancient ways of Mankind?

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posted on Sep, 16 2020 @ 11:58 PM
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Hi ATS,

We have always - ALWAYS - been a species of rational creature which suffers a darkened loss of morality affecting a proportion of our civilisation. Sadly, humanity has always suffered from the ill effects of poor personal moral choices, and each generation has, historically, believed that the younger generation, in their turn, is 'worse than it used to be'. That's a totally false belief - every generation has historically been approximately the same as the one before it - around an eigth of the global economy has been a dark underbelly in perpetuity, and that statistic basically reflects the criminal & decayed moral mass of humanity which remains constan in every generation until now. An eighth of our world has been blackened by sin & abuse, it always has been & it has generally led to a cycling proportion who move away to start a new life when their dog days are behind them, with the exception of the poor souls who are trapped in cycles of war & abuse that they are not powerful enough to escape.

My generation, at the age of 38-48, currently is facing a bit of a culture shock with regards the various 'woke', 'snowflake', 'no-platforming', 'Antifa' & now the monstrous devolution into hatred & destruction which has arisen in place of the original 'BLM' protest movement/s.

So are we, as the older generation, right in our assumption that the world is going to Hell in a handbasket? Are we in any way correct in our assumptions? Or is it simply the case that we're witnessing more of the same old concerns about the youth of our day & age, when in fact this will mainly blow over when they grow up enough to realise the error of their ways? WE ARE CORRECT. There is a key strategic reason that the chaos & downright perversion which accompanies some of the modern movements/ media, is actually far worse than it ever was previously, with far less chance of simply blowing over when they all grow up a bit. TECHNOLOGY.

Like it or not, our modern technology erases the chance that any of this will ever actually blow over. The damage that's being done to our youth by simple access to social media alone, is evident from the statistics on self-harm & suicide, which climbed in perfect synchronicity with the availability & use of modern smartphones that came equipped with social media access. Our technology basically ensures that the actions of our youth will mostly be forever recorded on the immortal engines of the big tech server farms, and for many of them, their past will follow them like some lost old stray dog with rabies..

Not only this, but another fact of our current situation further reduces the chance that we will ever get past this darkened era.. THE PROPENSITY OF THE WORKING & MIDDLE CLASS TO DARKEN ITS OWN HORIZONS WITH CASUAL MOCKERY, PERVERSION, ABUSE & BLASPHEMY. I apologise for the all-caps lock text there, but it's basically the truth that the statement made reflects the other key talon of the demonic handiwork among our children at this time. We have always had a darkening of horizons around a percentage of the economy & the social fabric of each generational evolution, but now we are facing an unprecedented slide into a pit of vipers, self-inflicted by our tolerance of diabolical evil.

One of the best seller books currently, by no means alone in its relatively banal 'setting of the tone' for our society's aims, beliefs & intentions, is named "The subtle art of not giving a F*CK". That book has been relentlessly promoted in my Scribd news feed/recommendations header for the past six months. Despite the fact that never in a million years have I ever gone near a book with blatantly 'shock-toxic' effects on the reader* ('shock-toxic' is a label I have devised for the category of media which I discuss throughout this thread OP).

*This proves that it isn't algorithmic, it's a deliberate choice to relentlessly promote a book designed to attract 'woke folk'.

By no means is this the only such shock-toxic book which has been promoted in recent times. And we all can attest to the seemingly inexorable slide into blatant perversion & incessant casual, uninterrupted, constant mockery, butchery & race-to-the-bottom media which is paraded on our TV screens & in the various streaming services we are conditioned to celebrate. Go & watch the first episode of season two of 'The Boys' on Amazon Prime. Or episode one of 'The Young Pope' featuring Jude Law (with frankly appalling blasphemy & denouncement of people's most sacred beliefs being paraded as quality, 'woke' entertainment..) Try watching any season of the Amazon show 'Preacher', to see the sort of precursor which made possible 'The Boys' a couple of years later.

We're being conditioned.

It all started with the gratuitous, extreme & abhorrent (child-killing) butchery of 'The Walking Dead' which prepared us to accept a level of carnage that was previously unheard of.

Perhaps take a step back in time to see what we used to watch- 'Lost' or 'Heroes'. Those were perfectly engaging shows which were extremely popular & successful at the time. Now? They wouldn't get made at all. The Walking Dead came onto our screens perhaps five years after 'Lost', perhaps two years after 'Heroes', perhaps ten years after the very popular 'Battlestar Galactica'. None of these would be commissioned now. It's a race to the lowest lows imaginable, and I fear to think what will be considered acceptable entertainment for my sons (aged 15 & 12) when they finally start watching TV regularly. Thankfully, at the moment, they're all about video games & chat applications with their mates (not social media, just chat rooms basically).

God help us all, Hell itself is pumped into our living rooms, and we're opening the door & inviting the Devil itself to take a seat. Whether you believe in personified evil forces or not, you're inviting the darkest perversions into your homes if you are exposing yourself or your children to the streaming shows (testing to see what level of abhorrent evil we will accept next), 'TV entertainment' (mainly perverse, shallow dross) & 'comedy' (sustained mockery), whether by choice or by a failure in your duty of care.

The fact of our smartphone addicted generations of kids, should worry us less than what's being done to degenerate their souls through media. Our 'parental concern' is leveled at privacy laws & worries about the negative effects of social media, it's right that we make our voices heard in Silicon Valley, to effect changes which will protect future generations from anxiety, depression, self-harm & suicide. But we should also be equally concerned by the sustained evil which is being blatantly secreted by diabolical powers in Hollywood, in addition to intellectual 'pedo-normalising' & Pizza-Gate issues, which may be ideologically-linked. NB - I believe all are directly linked by hidden 'illumined' forces, though there's no way to prove that unequivocally at the moment. Regardless, we must deal with the risk & effects of shock-toxic media - soon. Technology means that nothing will be forgotten. In response to potentially the greatest evil of our age, we must find a way to put the lid back on Pandora's Box, to prevent a crisis of immorality which will one day overwhelm our society.

FITO.




posted on Sep, 17 2020 @ 12:00 AM
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I got ya...

I got the answer for you right here see if you like it

It's the biblical narrative written you know it.

It's humans wanting to try to get to be God without his guidance.

That's where the morality comes in if the definition of holy it's the morality towards others.

So right now it's like the Ten Commandments there's five of them that will show the love for man and five of them will show the love for God.

That's what the evil one the leader of the devil's bargain is trying to do oh, it's the original story in the garden. Can you do it without God did God really say. It's a deep explanation of what the knowledge of Good and Evil is and it's not apparent on the surface I admit that.

Then focusing down on just to our personal level it's like Saul chased King David thinking he was doing the right thing to get rid of that guy , but then he ended up saying that he was the problem himself and he said I have sinned.

So it now it gets into the Fallen nature of the human heart. We have to admit that Mankind's got problems and it's not our fault. Scripture states that everything spiritual and physical and up in heaven there's a spiritual side of going on to whatever we're experiencing oh, and it's the evil ones up there that fell that are causing all the crap.

So comes real close to saying it's not your fault but that's what God finally said.

He had to give us a new heart then write the law on it, and the only way to make atonement for it was he had to dying himself to get rid of death.

But Jesus did it everything's done is true we have a war going on in our mind and the perp is our body.

Yep the spiritual stuff is hard to figure out the scripture tells the story like the Ten Commandments half of them are to love man half of them are to love God.. So God wants mankind to help him rule the physical world that's where Jesus comes in he's God as an image for our physical world Jesus is God, but only in the physical world so we can have an image of God. That's hard to explain the Trinity which is a huge mystery.

I can plow deeper but I'm trying to keep it on the surface.

The remedy you mentioned the remedy it's coming right up and it's about time.

That's the one thing I can say is sin and the law .....we cannot keep the law we are unable because of our fallen heart. Genesis starts out Moses gives the law then the people go in prove they can't keep it and break it and then he gives them more laws and they failing that and then he gives them more laws and if they were that finally they end up with 613 laws and we know we can't keep them all so we admit that.

We can't keep the law that's for the Catholics and the Islam's in the Jewish we're free from that because we admit that we know we can't do it. At that point you can expect Supernatural help just by drawing close to Jesus talk to Jesus he'll talk back


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posted on Sep, 17 2020 @ 12:18 AM
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The crap we go through it's not all our fault there's a helper out there .

And about the Ten Commandments Jesus summed up the Ten Commandments with love God and love your neighbor
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posted on Sep, 17 2020 @ 12:18 AM
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a reply to: FlyInTheOintment

I'm from a generation older than yours. I can you tell you this...This is not the kind of world I grew up in. What we are seeing and experiencing today and have for many years, is a huge disconnect of how things should be. I have never seen such a lack of respect and compassion, confusion and chaos that I am seeing these days.

Things start at home with good Parenting, should continue in schools that should be concerned with respect, kindness and compassion for our fellow man, no matter what color or race. In the work environment as well. Instead of teaching things like systemic racism which has made things worse and even many blacks don't agree with the concept...Why not teach your basic school subjects and add things like growing a community garden. Promote things that cities offer, like places to try sculpting or other arts, things that would capture their attention and keep them away from negative things.

I don't know, I'm sure there are many options that could be funded by donations even.



posted on Sep, 17 2020 @ 12:28 AM
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That's beautiful man you're showing the love for all the others teach them right that's what we need .

And that is the secret I taught my son was I taught him a trade starting at the age of eight and he was a millionaire plumber at 35 play

So you are spot-on .

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posted on Sep, 17 2020 @ 01:36 AM
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My eldest is totally set on studying medicine, whereas my youngest is totally enthused by the prospect of joining the RAF after his sixth form A-level exams (age 16-18) and learning the training & handling of dogs in a military environment. He is excited by the prospect of a varied & potentially lucrative career after finishing something like ten years service in the air force. He could go into business for himself, or he could work for a private security firm, highly lucrative options. After that, he could see out his last years before retirement training people to train dogs, so all in all, ending up a wealthy man, having enjoyed a varied & challenging career,, My eldest is highly academic and will do well in medicine, but the youngest loves our German Shepherds, and is quickly getting determined to follow another path...



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posted on Sep, 17 2020 @ 02:17 AM
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On an individual level I agree that all of this is frankly nothing less than depressing. On a macro level, I sort of see all of society heading for a reset of sorts. It may not be soon, but it will happen. Human beings cannot be caged emotionally as they are these days for too long before bad things happen.

The result, at the end, is up to our nature as a whole. We may reform for good or we may destroy everything. It's hard saying at this point.



posted on Sep, 17 2020 @ 02:30 AM
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Couple of videaos about a Christian mission/ revival march in Chicago in the past day or two. Turned out that after a peaceful & joyful march, the police confiscated their sound equipment, meaning they couldn't complete the planned free live music worship event. Then there was a single 'lone wolf' BLM protestor who heckled for a few minutes, before realising he wasn totally out of his depth when dealing with joyful, peaceful, Spirit-filled Christians.. All they did was refuse to parrot "Black loves matter" back at him, so he got upset. The minister & his wife are a mixed race couple! (minister is black, wife is white)

So there you have it. The police in Chicago are 'no-platforming' Christian celebrants in Chicago. They'd probably do it everywhere else too. But looters & violent criminals who smash up cars, destroy private property & burn down police stations? They're okay, because they're dismantling white privilege & reclaiming reparations in extra-judicial, unilateral & heavy-handed tyranny.

Christians march for revival & unity in Chicago

Police confiscate sound equipment for worship event in Chicago park



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posted on Sep, 17 2020 @ 03:10 AM
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Not a Christian. If true, so very disturbing on so many levels. I’m guessing this would ‘t have happened to __________ worshippers at the hands of CPD.

Who made the call? And why aren’t there protestors in front of their house demanding their head or job?

Oh yeah Christians and there whole lame “do unto others”
golden-rule thingy

/sarc






posted on Sep, 17 2020 @ 03:11 AM
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originally posted by: Fools

Human beings cannot be caged emotionally as they are these days for too long before bad things happen.


I see it from a totally different angle.......what ever happened to that old

fashioned thing called *self control*?

Today its a matter of not do I need it but I want it and I want it now!

Instant gratification.



The result, at the end, is up to our nature as a whole. We may reform for good or we may destroy everything. It's hard saying at this point.


We need to develop character and morals as we grow up there are no short cuts

it takes time an patience .




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posted on Sep, 17 2020 @ 03:17 AM
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And to your OP, the older I get the more I suspect a spiritual world is thoroughly woven into ours......

While I may not be religious and I ain’t got a link, it occurs to me that there are forces at work that are stating I g humanity to the breaking point.

Technology is indeed implicit

Them: “how come we ain’t FB friends?”
Me: “ain’t got one, we’ve known each other for 20 years Person X. We’re friends in real life”

Also: sonuva I turned 38 last week...

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posted on Sep, 17 2020 @ 03:17 AM
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What is technology but instant gratification?



posted on Sep, 17 2020 @ 03:26 AM
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originally posted by: FlyInTheOintment

My generation, at the age of 38-48, currently is facing a bit of a culture shock with regards the various 'woke', 'snowflake', 'no-platforming', 'Antifa' & now the monstrous devolution into hatred & destruction which has arisen in place of the original 'BLM' protest movement/s.


Isn't it your generation who brought up the new *woke* *SJW* generation?



posted on Sep, 17 2020 @ 03:34 AM
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originally posted by: slatesteam
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What is technology but instant gratification?



Well if thats where you get fulfillment .......my deepest sympathy!



posted on Sep, 17 2020 @ 04:50 AM
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Young people like to be accepted by their piers . Parents used to worry about who their kids were running with and what they were doing socially.. It has been that way forever...What has changed is social media and their friends and likes there. They get opinion pieces by their buds stated as fact and agree or they will be outside the "group think" and suffer less "likes" on their media platform.

Do they think the same as the generation which grew up not glued to a phone screen... IMO No.. With all the socialist communist idiots with an agenda both in schools and on social media is it any wonder today we have such mayhem which makes it almost impossible for people who see those who Can't Understand Normal Things to wonder what to heck happened... ?

The pendulum of a society can swing to both extremes before it one again centers..... unfortunately if history is of any note sometime many people have to die to return to center if it ever does.. I can think of a few countries today that are so far gone socially and under the thumb of an authoritarian government that the pendulum seems to be stuck full blown in one directed direction.



posted on Sep, 17 2020 @ 05:29 AM
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I've said several times on this forum that God or mother Earth will let us all have fun under the sun and eventually the sun will burn burn burn as we're starting to see in California we're also starting to see it in Africa we also saw it this summer here in this country one of the hottest Summers ever recorded and with this hotness heatness brought in some really devastating rains and floods and typhoons so like I said several times mother Earth is going to let us have fun under the Sun but now I truly believe that fun under the sun has come to a closing and now it's payback time what goes around comes around in this earth I think it's more of a spiritual thing the laws of nature



posted on Sep, 17 2020 @ 07:22 AM
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I 100% agree with that Hollywood is implicit in creating really dark borderline deviant/evil/satanic/occult content.

Hollywood producers would probably argue they make content that sells; however, it feels more like they are deliberately attempting to desensitize viewers to deviant behaviors. IMO the agenda is to make all types of deviant behaviors be perceived as the norm.

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posted on Sep, 17 2020 @ 07:26 AM
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I posted this in the "Time is Beginning to Tell" thread, it seems to apply here as well.




We seem to have reached some climax in our post-modern culture. As much as science and technology has advanced, humanity has reached the end of this road with regard to our ability to evolve in greater ways. Humanistic materialism is holding up back perhaps? It seems to me that our basic motivations are not keeping up with our science, even holding it back by using it for selfish reasons.

We no longer appreciate art for art's sake, or knowledge for knowledge's sake, there has to be some personal gain, usually money. We reach for the stars, supposedly to learn more, but that is a cover story. Our interest in space is money and power, not science, unless the science can enhance our power over people, the planet and give us control of the elements, it gets shelved and whats left is reduced to selfish purposes. This goes for every area of human study, you name it and it gets perverted into a power play for material gains.

"Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law", sure, do whatever you are capable of doing, why not? Just be prepared for the consequences and learn from them if you can live through it. I think we must go deep within ourselves and examine our motivations for doing anything, be it what we will do or what we are told to do.

We don't have to do something just because we know how, like tinkering with DNA or creating some new weapon of mass destruction, we don't have to climb those mountains just because we know we can. Knowing we could is enough in my opinion, there are greater heights we can reach if we just try.

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posted on Sep, 17 2020 @ 07:37 AM
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This Dennis Prager piece from a day or so ago seems relevant.

He writes it in context of the left, but it applies to more than just the left.


“Right can never be higher than the economic structure of society and the cultural development thereby determined. We therefore reject every attempt to impose on us any moral dogma whatsoever as an eternal, ultimate and forever immutable moral law.”

Fifty-three years later, Marx’s foremost disciple, Vladimir Lenin, architect of the Russian Revolution, proclaimed:

“We say that our morality is entirely subordinated to the interests of the class struggle of the proletariat. … We do not believe in an eternal morality. … We repudiate all morality derived from non-human (i.e., God) and non-class concepts” (Address to the Third Congress of the Russian Young Communist League, Oct. 2, 1920).

As professor Wilfred Cantwell Smith, director of Harvard University’s Center for the Study of World Religions, wrote in 1957: “For Marxism there is no reason (literally no reason: our universe, the movement posits, is the kind of universe where there cannot conceivably be any reason) for not killing or torturing or exploiting a human person if his liquidation or torture or slave labor will advance the historical process.”

This is how Marx’s ideological heirs, today’s leftists, view the world — with one important difference: Morality is not determined only by class, but by race, power and sex as well.


Right now we're in a post-truth, post-moral world. Everything is moral relativity. How many times have you heard someone say, "Well, it would never be wrong for me, but how can I say what would be wrong for someone else?" Or something similar.

That's basically an implicit admission that whatever you're talking about, it *is* right for them ... as long as someone else does it. They're often talking about things like female genital mutilation and thinking of another culture, but if they are willing to accept that other people somewhere else can engage in it, then it is acceptable to them on some level because they're unwilling to speak out against another group's practice of it.

Start letting even those tiny admissions of wrongs into your paradigm as sometimes acceptable and what won't you start to allow? What won't you start to allow into your life for the sake of "not being mean" to others? What won't you start to allow because you say you "love" your fellow man?

Pretty soon, almost anything goes and almost anything is perfectly OK for you and allowable for anyone else.





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posted on Sep, 17 2020 @ 07:58 AM
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Totally agree with that one.

Moral and cultural relativism are part of the post modern age we are now in to since the late 50s.



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