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Breonna Taylor Was Not Innocent, she Was Involved in Her Boyfriend's Gang & Criminal Activity.

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posted on Sep, 16 2020 @ 01:33 PM
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originally posted by: grey580
a reply to: ElectricUniverse

Hold on a second. They were executing a no knock warrant.

How were the occupants to know it wasn't some thugs trying to break in and kill them. They had every right to defend themselves from someone breaking into their home.


Months later and you still don't know what happened. They didn't execute a no-knock warrant.

Do you guys ever get embarrassed when you comment about things you don't know the first freaking thing about? Wherever you get your information from leaves you hilariously uninformed, yet you keep getting your information there and coming on here and making a fool of yourself. Get new sources.




posted on Sep, 16 2020 @ 01:36 PM
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originally posted by: ElectricUniverse
Okay, so it seems that many of you responding here didn't even read the info provided in the documents.



This doesn't surprise you by any chance does it? ATS has become such a joke. No one is willing to read OPs that take longer than 30 seconds to get through. No one is interested in actual facts. They just want to come here and spout their debunked talking points. Actually getting informed on the issue is a problem for them.



posted on Sep, 16 2020 @ 02:10 PM
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originally posted by: circuitsports

originally posted by: game over man
This thread is such a joke, conservatives are all about upholding the constitution, this shows their toxic hypocrisy. You're innocent until proven guilty. Period. Now read the thread title. This thread pathetic and disgusting. This thread is disgusting.


Compare any of the police brutality cases against black people to the below story:

Jason Mesich

There's endless examples, the GOP is extremely racist.



Breonna Taylor was on the warrant they were serving for her participation in drug dealing stretching back to 2016 when a dead body was found in a car she rented. Going all the way through years of heavy surveillance, recorded conversations, several instances where she used massive amounts of undeclared income to twice bail her boy friend out of jail for his crimes.

As anyone knows, the boyfriend should not have had a gun and as the evidence clearly shows the people who knew him best knew what happened - the police announced themselves and were shot at - the boyfriend then used the 10 minutes to flush the drugs.

The boyfriend also claimed the police knocked first in statements and it seems clear based on what evidence was available that he hid behind Breonna.

If this was a no knock warrant which it should have been, it's likely everyone would still be alive.

This wasnt a case of some petty weed dealer - these were long time criminals who got what they deserved in one case.


While the boyfriend claimed the police knocked first, the officer who actually got shot is claiming he was in the apartment when he got shot. So until that aspect is cleared up, it’s anyone’s best guess.

Definitely an odd situation as both their statements work against their selves, you’d think it’d be the opposite way around.



posted on Sep, 16 2020 @ 02:16 PM
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originally posted by: circuitsports

originally posted by: game over man
This thread is such a joke, conservatives are all about upholding the constitution, this shows their toxic hypocrisy. You're innocent until proven guilty. Period. Now read the thread title. This thread pathetic and disgusting. This thread is disgusting.


Compare any of the police brutality cases against black people to the below story:

Jason Mesich

There's endless examples, the GOP is extremely racist.



Breonna Taylor was on the warrant they were serving for her participation in drug dealing stretching back to 2016 when a dead body was found in a car she rented. Going all the way through years of heavy surveillance, recorded conversations, several instances where she used massive amounts of undeclared income to twice bail her boy friend out of jail for his crimes.

As anyone knows, the boyfriend should not have had a gun and as the evidence clearly shows the people who knew him best knew what happened - the police announced themselves and were shot at - the boyfriend then used the 10 minutes to flush the drugs.

The boyfriend also claimed the police knocked first in statements and it seems clear based on what evidence was available that he hid behind Breonna.

If this was a no knock warrant which it should have been, it's likely everyone would still be alive.

This wasnt a case of some petty weed dealer - these were long time criminals who got what they deserved in one case.


Kenneth Walker is a legal gun owner with a concealed weapon permit. You may be confusing him with her ex boyfriend who was not there and actually located somewhere else before this raid.



posted on Sep, 16 2020 @ 03:36 PM
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a reply to: face23785

They absolutely did have a no knock warrant. However they decided to bang on the door and not announce themselves as police according to the subject and witnesses. Sure wish they had body camera footage to see exactly what happened.



posted on Sep, 16 2020 @ 03:45 PM
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a reply to: LSU2018

are you slow? They're CRIMINALS, not "the law". There's a reason they're called criminals. You think it's ok that law officers act like them? You're part of the problem, clearly.



posted on Sep, 16 2020 @ 04:02 PM
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a reply to: Arnie123

I agree that we need to stop glorifying criminals, but as far as illicit action is concerned, we also need to not have so many laws that make things a crime when there is no victim.
Sure there are plenty of people doing things to themselves that hurt no one but themselves.
We really don't need a government that spends so much time and money making some things illegal and saving us from ourselves.



posted on Sep, 16 2020 @ 10:48 PM
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It's terrible what happened to her. Being a victim doesn't make her a hero. Being imperfect doesn't excuse how she was killed. Same thing with George Floyd. A bad thing happened to a pretty bad dude. Doesn't make it right. Doesn't make him great.



posted on Sep, 16 2020 @ 11:00 PM
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originally posted by: projectvxn
Be that as it may, no-knock warrants need to go.

They put officers and innocent people in danger. If she was not the target and she got killed in the process then this wasn't a good shoot or a good raid.

Changes to need to be made with respect to how police execute warrants like this.

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All that said, if you shoot through a door a cops they will probably go in guns blazing. You're not giving them much choice.


The warrant was a knock warrant. Even Breona's boyfriend told Glover that he heard the knocks from the police. What I find incredulous is that "an innocent man", as Breonna's new boyfriend is claimed to be, shot at the door when the police did not attempt to break in and was just knocking on the door. The police only broke in after Breonna's boyfriend shot at the door injuring a police officer in a leg. Then the police broke the door open and shot at the hallway from where Breonna's boyfriend shot at them. But Breonna was in the way and she was killed.

If this had been a no knock warrant, Breonna would still be alive. What caused the police to shoot at them was because Breonna's boyfriend shot at them first when they were just knocking on the door.

No knock warrants save lives more often than not, as it does not give enough time for criminals, or even innocent people, to get their weapons most of the time.




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edit on 16-9-2020 by ElectricUniverse because: add and correct comment.



posted on Sep, 16 2020 @ 11:05 PM
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originally posted by: NDMagoo
It's terrible what happened to her. Being a victim doesn't make her a hero. Being imperfect doesn't excuse how she was killed. Same thing with George Floyd. A bad thing happened to a pretty bad dude. Doesn't make it right. Doesn't make him great.


Yet these are not "proof of systemic racism." BLM is only claiming it is because their goal is to destroy capitalism, and the Republic, and to install a Marxist dictatorship.



posted on Sep, 17 2020 @ 12:33 AM
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originally posted by: ElectricUniverse

originally posted by: projectvxn
Be that as it may, no-knock warrants need to go.

They put officers and innocent people in danger. If she was not the target and she got killed in the process then this wasn't a good shoot or a good raid.

Changes to need to be made with respect to how police execute warrants like this.

Edit:
All that said, if you shoot through a door a cops they will probably go in guns blazing. You're not giving them much choice.



The warrant was a knock warrant. Even Breona's boyfriend told Glover that he heard the knocks from the police. What I find incredulous is that "an innocent man", as Breonna's new boyfriend is claimed to be, shot at the door when the police did not attempt to break in and was just knocking on the door. The police only broke in after Breonna's boyfriend shot at the door injuring a police officer in a leg. Then the police broke the door open and shot at the hallway from where Breonna's boyfriend shot at them. But Breonna was in the way and she was killed.

If this had been a no knock warrant, Breonna would still be alive. What caused the police to shoot at them was because Breonna's boyfriend shot at them first when they were just knocking on the door.

No knock warrants save lives more often than not, as it does not give enough time for criminals, or even innocent people, to get their weapons most of the time.




Are you dense? Walker said the door was off the hinges, thats a god dammed breach, the cop who was shot, said he was inside when he got hit.

Keep telling your fairy tale



posted on Sep, 17 2020 @ 10:11 AM
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a reply to: ElectricUniverse


No knock warrants save lives more often than not, as it does not give enough time for criminals, or even innocent people, to get their weapons most of the time.


No.

Innocent people shouldn't have to ever worry about being killed by the cops in their own homes due to a practice that has netted quite a few wrong-house deaths on both sides.



posted on Sep, 17 2020 @ 10:32 AM
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originally posted by: hangedman13
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"I just let off one shot. Like, I still can't see who it is or anything. So now the door's, like, flying open," he continued. "I let off one shot, and then all of a sudden there's a whole lot of shots and we like we both just dropped to the ground."


So he shot first. Kills a lot of narratives actually. No wonder it settled so quick. The key would be the laws for self-defense in that state. During any type of raid cops will have weapons "hot", being shot at it will result in return fire. Neither side is blameless.


Excuse those after being shot fired back if I rewrite your post.

WTH, are you saying do the no knock or knock?

If the cops were wrong for anything it might be for being too nice and risking their own lives to save the neighborhood from major drug crime that involves a lot of individuals suffering just to be in the same area as these thugs. They might do good to leave them all alone and let the neighborhood rot of it's own corruption.

The children need to be saved from a life of suffering from these drug lords.



posted on Sep, 17 2020 @ 10:53 AM
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I'm not really up on drug culture. How much is 4.9 grams of crack? How many doses is that? Is that for personal use or is that indicative that they were dealing crack?



posted on Sep, 17 2020 @ 10:55 AM
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originally posted by: grey580
a reply to: face23785

They absolutely did have a no knock warrant. However they decided to bang on the door and not announce themselves as police according to the subject and witnesses. Sure wish they had body camera footage to see exactly what happened.


A no-knock being issued and "executing a no-knock warrant" are completely different things. Don't post lies.

Oh, the drug dealer criminal says they didn't announce as police? Yeah, that's credible. Witnesses? Like the ones in the Michael Brown case that said he had his hands up and was "executed?" Don't be so gullible man.

Why the # would they knock and NOT identify themselves? [sarc]Blow your element of surprise, but then not identify yourselves as police and let them think you're just rival dealers storming their place or something. Yeah, that's not going to put yourselves in any danger.[/sarc]

Think for yourself, for once in your life.
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posted on Sep, 17 2020 @ 11:14 AM
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Also, we've got some former LE around here, so I've got a question that has been broached here already.

What are the odds that she was the shooter? I've never been shot at, thankfully. I would imagine that in a relatively small area like this, the sound is unreliable in determining where the shots came from. However, the police likely would've seen the muzzle flashes right? And then returned fire directed at that location? And since Taylor was the only one hit, isn't that indicative that she was the shooter?

On the other hand, if she was, I don't see why her boyfriend would then take the gun and claim to be the shooter.



posted on Sep, 17 2020 @ 11:15 AM
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Spent some time revisiting this, and the evidence provided.

From what the evidence points to, Ms Taylor was unfortunate enough to be stumbling up the hallway after her man shot at cops through a closed door. Is this accurate?



posted on Sep, 17 2020 @ 11:22 AM
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originally posted by: ElectricUniverse

originally posted by: NDMagoo
It's terrible what happened to her. Being a victim doesn't make her a hero. Being imperfect doesn't excuse how she was killed. Same thing with George Floyd. A bad thing happened to a pretty bad dude. Doesn't make it right. Doesn't make him great.


Yet these are not "proof of systemic racism." BLM is only claiming it is because their goal is to destroy capitalism, and the Republic, and to install a Marxist dictatorship.



Amazing isn't it? The narrative is that police are running around "hunting" black people, just "executing" innocent black people for no reason. Yet, just about every single one of these cases, that's not what happened, it's always a drug bust gone wrong, a lowlife no good scumbag like Jacob Blake pulling a knife on police, the one in Lancaster, PA the other day who also pulled a knife on police, a drug dealer like George Floyd who killed himself, Michael Brown trying to grab a cop's gun.

Where are the innocent black men being executed while doing nothing but "walking while black?" If this is so common, why is it always the lowest dregs of society getting killed and put on a pedestal?


originally posted by: ElectricUniverse


You hear a knock in your house, even late at night, and your first thought is to shoot through the door?... Is that your argument?...


This is one of my other favorite parts. It's not like this was 3am. It's just after midnight. What are the odds this lowlife was even asleep? He's a #ing drug dealer. It's not like he gotta be up at 0630 to get ready for his job down at the bank or something. Mother#er was likely wide awake and it wouldn't be unusual for dealers to get clients at this time of night. The whole "this was late at night so you can't blame him for being defensive at a knock at the door" angle doesn't work here.
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posted on Sep, 17 2020 @ 11:32 AM
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originally posted by: vonclod


I'm suggesting self defence, why would he "KNOWINGLY!!!" shoot at police, with no reason.


No reason? Even if they didn't have anything in the place at the time, this guy is involved in an ongoing criminal enterprise. The police show up, he's immediately gonna be thinking they're there to arrest him for any one of his ongoing criminal activities, and that he's gonna be going to jail for a really long time.

No one has ever shot at police in such a circumstance?


originally posted by: vonclod


No knocks need to stop for petty drug stuff.


Again, this wasn't a no-knock situation. They had one, but that's not how this went down. And crack is not a petty drug. Thousands of people die from crack every year. These scum have likely killed people with the # they've been dealing. I have no sympathy for them.
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posted on Sep, 17 2020 @ 11:36 AM
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originally posted by: DukeMisterio
OP is a bootlicker.


Oh look, another 7 year old who stole his mom's laptop.




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