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For first time, House will vote on bill that would legalize marijuana on federal level

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posted on Sep, 15 2020 @ 08:07 AM
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originally posted by: carewemust
The state tax on Marijuana in Illinois averages 33%

List of Taxes per state: www.illinoispolicy.org...

If Feds approve Marijuana, they'll want another 10%-20%.

No wonder people just keep buying it like they have been...from private dealers.


Even in places like the Northwest where it’s taxed to death it’s still cheaper than anything you can find on the streets. My favorite dispensary had $70 oz’s.




posted on Sep, 15 2020 @ 08:15 AM
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Of course they will make it legal federally.

They made hemp growing legal.

And anyone who has ever grown marijuana, knows what a crop of hemp, up to 20 miles away, can do to marijuana plants. Even for someone growing legally at home.
And growing indoors may help, but the pollen can still get into the ventilation system.
It is happening here in MI, and people are very angry.

The government knew exactly what it was doing, legalizing hemp growing, when marijuana started becoming legal in the states.



posted on Sep, 15 2020 @ 08:36 AM
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originally posted by: KTemplar
a reply to: dug88
I personally know a girl who works at a dispensary; she loves her job and says the pay is great. She tells me most of her customers are middle aged to
Older folks.


She's definitely not kidding about client ages, the one we go to is busy as hell, and most customers are around my husband's age (50) and older. We do see younger folks my age (mid-30's) and younger from time to time, but the majority of the customers are older than I am. Often by many decades. Grandma and Grandpa are a lot more...accepting than people realize.



Our economy needs a silver bullet, and this is it.


I think if done properly, pot tax can put a BIG dent in the US debt, and lift us toward surplus status again. I'm perfectly happy to use the tax revenue for that, but we need iron-clad laws for it to make it work.



posted on Sep, 15 2020 @ 09:39 AM
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originally posted by: a325nt

originally posted by: acackohfcc
"would open a huge, easy to enter market for entrepreneurs."
You're dreaming. Here in Michigan you need big money to get into the industry


Same here in Maine.
You practically need to build a fort to grow the stuff legally for resale.
We priced it out, the loan would be over six figures in materials for enough grow space to keep one person employed full time... And only during the short growing seasons here.


Lewiston is my hometown!

Hydroponics are the way to go. You can grow year round inside and then have your seasonal outdoor grow. Within the context of Maine, there are plenty of old farms/mills that aren’t in use that could definitely benefit from being turned into pot farms/grow houses. Get all those old shoe shops cleared out and put them to use!



posted on Sep, 15 2020 @ 09:57 AM
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a reply to: a325nt

It doesn't take much room to have plenty for resale.... of course you can't have a ton of clients. But a 4x4x8 grow tent and the right techniques and you have plenty for yourself and a handful of others. Again, this isn't doable for a big endeavor. But a room with several grow tents could do a lot.



posted on Sep, 15 2020 @ 10:26 AM
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We should tax tomatoes more, the gov is broke.
Christ....300 a half in Illinois
Greedy little piggies.

The recompense for wrecking people's lives over with weed laws should be zero fn taxes.
Now the scum that imprisoned everyone wan to license their own gd kids into the market with no competition.
Screw these rigging jackholes.



posted on Sep, 15 2020 @ 12:01 PM
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Sounds like we need some Tegridy...

In all seriousness, if they don't legalize it federally you'll continue to have things like Delta 8 pop up. Something that utilizes an existing loophole in the farm bill and still accomplishes the same as regular THC cannabis. Of course the DEA has gotten up in arms over Delta 8 and is trying to squash that one, because horror of horrors, it gets you high.



posted on Sep, 15 2020 @ 12:07 PM
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a reply to: Hypntick

Are you talking about this?

Because delta8-thc is still a cannibinoid from cannabis.



posted on Sep, 15 2020 @ 12:54 PM
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a reply to: dug88


That's what happens when socialists get their hands on something. They corrupt it. The Canadian people voted for socialist candidates/parties, and that's what they get for it. Let it be a lesson for us all.



posted on Sep, 15 2020 @ 01:01 PM
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Good idea, in theory, but I don't like this portion of the bill:


SEC. 3. Demographic data of cannabis business owners and employees.

(a) In general.—The Bureau of Labor Statistics shall regularly compile, maintain, and make public data on the demographics of—

(1) individuals who are business owners in the cannabis industry; and

(2) individuals who are employed in the cannabis industry.

(b) Demographic data.—The data collected under subsection (a) shall include data regarding—

(1) age;

(2) certifications and licenses;

(3) disability status;

(4) educational attainment;

(5) family and marital status;

(6) nativity;

(7) race and Hispanic ethnicity;

(8) school enrollment;

(9) veteran status; and

(10) sex.

(c) Confidentiality.—The name, address, and other identifying information of individuals employed in the cannabis industry shall be kept confidential by the Bureau and not be made available to the public.

(d) Definitions.—In this section:

(1) CANNABIS.—The term “cannabis” means either marijuana or cannabis as defined under the State law authorizing the sale or use of cannabis in which the individual or entity is located.

(2) CANNABIS INDUSTRY.—The term “cannabis industry” means an individual or entity that is licensed or permitted under a State or local law to engage in commercial cannabis-related activity.

(3) OWNER.—The term “owner” means an individual or entity that is defined as an owner under the State or local law where the individual or business is licensed or permitted.

SEC. 4. Creation of Opportunity Trust Fund and imposition of tax on cannabis products.

(a) Trust Fund.—

(1) ESTABLISHMENT.—Subchapter A of chapter 98 of the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 is amended by adding at the end the following new section:

“SEC. 9512. Opportunity trust fund.

“(a) Creation of Trust Fund.—There is established in the Treasury of the United States a trust fund to be known as the ‘Opportunity Trust Fund’ (referred to in this section as the ‘Trust Fund’), consisting of such amounts as may be appropriated or credited to such fund as provided in this section or section 9602(b).

“(b) Transfers to Trust Fund.—There are hereby appropriated to the Trust Fund amounts equivalent to the net revenues received in the Treasury from the tax imposed by section 5701(h).

“(c) Expenditures.—Amounts in the Trust Fund shall be available, without further appropriation, only as follows:

“(1) 50 percent to the Attorney General to carry out section 3052(a) of part OO of the Omnibus Crime Control and Safe Streets Act of 1968.

“(2) 10 percent to the Attorney General to carry out section 3052(b) of part OO of the Omnibus Crime Control and Safe Streets Act of 1968.

“(3) 20 percent to the Administrator of the Small Business Administration to carry out section 5(b)(1) of the Marijuana Opportunity Reinvestment and Expungement Act of 2019.

“(4) 20 percent to the Administrator of the Small Business Administration to carry out section 5(b)(2) of the Marijuana Opportunity Reinvestment and Expungement Act of 2019”..”.

(2) CLERICAL AMENDMENT.—The table of sections for subchapter A of chapter 98 of such Code is amended by adding at the end the following new item:


S.2227 - MORE Act of 2019

The demographic data collection and trust fund creation have no business being in this bill.



posted on Sep, 15 2020 @ 01:06 PM
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originally posted by: oriondc
a reply to: dug88


That's what happens when socialists get their hands on something. They corrupt it. The Canadian people voted for socialist candidates/parties, and that's what they get for it. Let it be a lesson for us all.




Dirt cheap very high quality bud available on almost every corner?

Terrible....I know.

Oh, whoops, it is a provincial matter in Canada, how it is developed and managed is critical. My province opened it to almost everybody right off the bat, and our local prices and quality have done what was anticipated. Ontario...on the other hand...and BC...really? We expected far, far better from you on this SPECIFIC topic...



posted on Sep, 15 2020 @ 01:09 PM
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a reply to: dug88

Weed shouldn't be legal. I agree with making the law more flexible but I don't agree with legalization. They'll just make it too expensive anyways and cause people to go back to their dealers. Not to mention, with states legalizing marijuana, the Mexicans and South Americans are bringing more potent drugs into America. Legalization would work about as well as withdrawing all troops out the middle east worked for obama. You think you're fixing something but you create an even bigger problem.



posted on Sep, 15 2020 @ 04:44 PM
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I know a lot of conservatives who think it’s not the government’s business to regulate what we do with our bodies — as long as we don’t violate someone else’s rights or become a burden on taxpayers. And being high must never be a legal excuse for committing a crime or harming someone accidentally.

I can’t afford illegal weed in Texas; it costs $400 an oz. for quality bud in Austin. When I lived in Colorado I could get it for $100. I don’t think legalization is without its problems, but I think the pros outweigh the cons.

It’s much less self-destructive than alcohol, and folks don’t get mean when high on weed. I suspect the number of wrecks weed has caused is a tiny fraction of drunk driving accidents.

I’m not saying it’s good for you, though I think it has some benefits. I know people who take it or its byproducts for joint and back pain.
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posted on Sep, 15 2020 @ 05:00 PM
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a reply to: Drucifer

Hahaha now that made me laugh..



posted on Sep, 15 2020 @ 05:03 PM
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originally posted by: LSU2018
a reply to: dug88

Weed shouldn't be legal. I agree with making the law more flexible but I don't agree with legalization. They'll just make it too expensive anyways and cause people to go back to their dealers. Not to mention, with states legalizing marijuana, the Mexicans and South Americans are bringing more potent drugs into America. Legalization would work about as well as withdrawing all troops out the middle east worked for obama. You think you're fixing something but you create an even bigger problem.



I’ve thought about that too. It is wise to think of potential outcomes always. I do however believe that those drugs are coming in anyways. Maybe if police aren’t wasting so much time on people buying weed, they can actually go after the most dangerous criminals. Human trafficking comes to mind.

Having said that, I also know of a few cases where kids bought weed that was laced with fentanyl and almost died. Imo street weed is dangerous.



posted on Sep, 15 2020 @ 05:17 PM
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originally posted by: LSU2018
a reply to: dug88

Weed shouldn't be legal. I agree with making the law more flexible but I don't agree with legalization. They'll just make it too expensive anyways and cause people to go back to their dealers. Not to mention, with states legalizing marijuana, the Mexicans and South Americans are bringing more potent drugs into America. Legalization would work about as well as withdrawing all troops out the middle east worked for obama. You think you're fixing something but you create an even bigger problem.


Jacking up the price hasn't happened thus far in the states where it's legal. In fact, there are even cheaper options open as well as all the edibles. And that comes along with getting to choose a strain and potency. If you want to purchase more expensive stuff, you can, but every dispensary I've been in also offers products cheaper than I could find on the streets.

What exactly are "more potent drugs"? Fentanyl? That would have made it's way here regardless and the majority of pot smokers couldn't care less about it. Outside of that, the US does well enough on it's own of supplying the citizens with drugs in the pharmaceutical form. Unless they start creating some new drugs that are more potent than coke, meth or heroin, nothing is going to change. If anything, they'll simply have to start moving pot to other countries where it isn't legal yet.

Street dealers aren't getting their weed from out of the country anymore and if they are, they're idiots. There's more than enough being grown in the US and none of that crap coming up from Mexico or South America was ever any good, it was compressed brick weed you'd buy for $50 an ounce. If they were going to start making moves, it would have happened years ago. I haven't even seen brick weed in nearly 20 years.



posted on Sep, 15 2020 @ 09:44 PM
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a reply to: LSU2018

You’ve stated before, that you get tested for your work.

Just because you can’t partake, doesn’t mean cannabis isn’t incredibly beneficial, in too many ways to quantify, at this present moment.

I hope this bill passes. However, if Jaded’s post is correct, it will fail. Reading through it, it’s clearly racist. And that doesn’t work, in our current state of affairs.



posted on Sep, 15 2020 @ 10:26 PM
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originally posted by: Nyiah

originally posted by: KTemplar
a reply to: dug88
I personally know a girl who works at a dispensary; she loves her job and says the pay is great. She tells me most of her customers are middle aged to
Older folks.


She's definitely not kidding about client ages, the one we go to is busy as hell, and most customers are around my husband's age (50) and older. We do see younger folks my age (mid-30's) and younger from time to time, but the majority of the customers are older than I am. Often by many decades. Grandma and Grandpa are a lot more...accepting than people realize.



Our economy needs a silver bullet, and this is it.


I think if done properly, pot tax can put a BIG dent in the US debt, and lift us toward surplus status again. I'm perfectly happy to use the tax revenue for that, but we need iron-clad laws for it to make it work.


Well, it could start to put a dent in the deficit, maybe. To erase the det would require over $60k in marijuana taxes collected for every man, woman and child in the United States - assuming we balanced the budget first.



posted on Sep, 16 2020 @ 03:42 AM
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Taxes, medical,jobs,relieve police of enforcement, just off the top of my head. Bil as written is whacked, but mostly look at the money especially coming off this downturn it would be the shot in the arm to get it really moving again. It seriously has numerous medical benefits from cancer patients to people with uncontrollable spasms and tics on down the line. Not to mention the millions who might be able to kick the dependency on prescription drugs if there was a easy and legal way to obtain it.Those 2 reasons alone should get it legalized just like beer.



posted on Sep, 16 2020 @ 03:48 AM
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Great news!

Psychedelics hopefully eill be next. We have already seen research that shows how Psychedelics benafit people with depression, addiction, anxiety and PTSD, so hopefully we will see centres ooen in the future for this.




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