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FBI Says West Coast Fires Are Routine...Visual and Forensic Evidence Says Otherwise.

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posted on Sep, 12 2020 @ 08:38 PM
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Saturday, September 12, 2020

It appears an unusually high number of fires near the U.S. West Coast this month have been intentionally started.

In a rather disconcerting sequence of events, many of the west coast forest fires are now being attributed to intentional arson.

One of the key aspects to the unnatural outbreak of fires is the proximity to homes and well established neighborhoods in California, Washington State, and Oregon.

A twitter account by Katie Daviscourt has been tracking some of the fires and a recent series of events from the area(s) [SEE HERE: threadreaderapp.com... ]. The ongoing thread is updated with several points of evidence where people have been caught, captured or filmed in the act of lighting fires.

There is speculation, and evidence, that some of these fires may have been ignited by Antifa activists, as a method of further creating crisis in the region.
Continued at: theconservativetreehouse.com... ens-missing/

HOWEVER, the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) Oregon division says social media speculation that many fires are started intentionally, is irresponsibly spreading Rumors. Rumors that are NOT based on FACTS! Here's a communique posted to Twitter by the FBI's Oregon office yesterday..

Reports that extremists are setting wildfires in Oregon are untrue.

Help us stop the spread of misinformation, by only sharing information from trusted, official sources.
Source and more at: twitter.com...


Here is a quote from the Law Enforcement Today publication, attributed to a Federal Law Enforcement Official..

A federal law enforcement source shared with Law Enforcement Today that the feds are looking into whether some of the cases are linked together… and warn there could be more “attacks”.

“We are reacting to a coordinated series of attempts to start fires anywhere and everywhere in Oregon. Public and Private lands, incorporated and unincorporated areas.

By all indications so far in the preliminary stages of these investigations there is a coordinated effort on the part of these individuals to start fires in areas that are the least protected and most vulnerable then slowing working their way into more populated areas and neighborhoods.
Source: www.lawenforcementtoday.com...


ATS MEMBERS...Which one do YOU think it is, and who do YOU believe?

The usual/seasonal fires started by accident or nature, as the FBI alleges?

Or a larger than usual number of fires started intentionally...possibly by domestic terrorists, as many citizens, and a federal law enforcement officer alleges?



-CareWeMust




posted on Sep, 12 2020 @ 08:39 PM
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a reply to: carewemust

COVERUP !



posted on Sep, 12 2020 @ 08:40 PM
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originally posted by: Zanti Misfit
a reply to: carewemust

COVERUP !






posted on Sep, 12 2020 @ 08:52 PM
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Feds usually call in the BATFE for federal help with fires and the obvious thats in their name. The local sheriff's department would handle "normal" county acts of arson, and the city police would, of course handle those cases within the city limits. I'm not sure if Oregon has a state law enforcement division or if the Oregon state troopers (highway patrol) have an investigative branch that investigates arson, bank robberies, scams, etc.

If president Trump has placed federal law enforcement in the state to combat the rioters and arsonists, the BATFE is most certainly on the scene.

I've worked with these guys, they don't play...



posted on Sep, 12 2020 @ 09:01 PM
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Screw the FBI, they have a history of lying.

Smokey Bear knows best!



posted on Sep, 12 2020 @ 09:05 PM
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As likely as it might sound that Antifa would do this I think we should reject claims without evidence. It's the American way, remember?



posted on Sep, 12 2020 @ 09:07 PM
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posted on Sep, 12 2020 @ 09:12 PM
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originally posted by: Asktheanimals
As likely as it might sound that Antifa would do this I think we should reject claims without evidence. It's the American way, remember?


Tell Brett Kavenaugh that.

Or Clarence Thomas.

Or Trump.

Or perhaps we should apply the same standard to the left for a change...

Perhaps we should round up some "mostly peaceful" AntiFa members and ask them.

Possibly an investigation.

You know, follow the rule of law.

The American way!




posted on Sep, 12 2020 @ 09:19 PM
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The FBI have shown that they themselves lack credibility, ethics, morals, objectivity, and impartiality. So who in their right mind would trust them. This is beyond politics. Ask yourself, do you trust the FBI to explicitly have the United States citizens best interest at heart?



posted on Sep, 12 2020 @ 09:22 PM
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originally posted by: Zanti Misfit
a reply to: carewemust

COVERUP !


Or maybe the FBI doesn't want to stop the terrorists, so more of them will be caught in the act?



posted on Sep, 12 2020 @ 09:23 PM
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a reply to: carewemust

Well any thinking person capable of thinking 1+1=2 is only
gonna get the enabling label CT. If he doesn't understand that
coincidence to infinity is a much more plausible assertion. So I
gotta be true to my nature (ass hole) and call attention to the
obvious.

COVERUP!



posted on Sep, 12 2020 @ 09:33 PM
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a reply to: carewemust

Antifa firefighters?



No offense (FBI Portland), but that second half of tweet you speak as if the last 4 years hadn’t occurred.

Loren 'Renn' Cannon Named Special Agent in Charge of the Portland Division (Nov 30, 2016)



FBI Director James B. Comey has named Loren “Renn” Cannon as the special agent in charge of the Portland Division. Mr. Cannon most recently served as the section chief of the Leadership Development Program in the Human Resources Branch at FBI Headquarters.


Portland Field Office



posted on Sep, 12 2020 @ 09:40 PM
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a reply to: EndtheMadnessNow

If they fight fires the same way they do fascism, that might be a problem.




posted on Sep, 12 2020 @ 09:40 PM
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Help us stop the spread of misinformation, by only sharing information from trusted, official sources.


Glad to help. Uh, does anyone know any trusted, official sources?



posted on Sep, 12 2020 @ 09:44 PM
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a reply to: ketsuko

Only if it’s peaceful. If they get violent, the fires are sure to stop.



posted on Sep, 12 2020 @ 10:11 PM
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originally posted by: NightFlight
Feds usually call in the BATFE for federal help with fires and the obvious thats in their name. The local sheriff's department would handle "normal" county acts of arson, and the city police would, of course handle those cases within the city limits. I'm not sure if Oregon has a state law enforcement division or if the Oregon state troopers (highway patrol) have an investigative branch that investigates arson, bank robberies, scams, etc.

If president Trump has placed federal law enforcement in the state to combat the rioters and arsonists, the BATFE is most certainly on the scene.

I've worked with these guys, they don't play...


Thank-you for your "insider" perspective, based on Experience.

Very helpful!



posted on Sep, 12 2020 @ 10:12 PM
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originally posted by: Asktheanimals
As likely as it might sound that Antifa would do this I think we should reject claims without evidence. It's the American way, remember?

Have the riots in the city of Portland calmed down over the past 4 days, or so?



posted on Sep, 12 2020 @ 10:16 PM
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a reply to: carewemust

Same thing happened over here. Many of the bushfires were started intentionally, some birds even start them.

And, by the way, our bushfires had been predicted well before they happened, we knew about 3-4 months in advance, and yet SFA was done in preparation.



posted on Sep, 12 2020 @ 10:17 PM
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What an insult to hear this trash from the FBI.

The FBI does not even have primary jurisdiction on federal arson cases, the ATF does.

There hasn't been enough time go by for the FBI to even make a statement of conclusion like that. What a bunch of federal idiots we have at the FBI to say such nonsense and insult the intelligence of the American people like that.

ATF even shows up in local towns anywhere that a fire has happened that causes large money damages. These guys are VERY good at finding out how any fire was started.
The FBI are only good at white collar crime and murdering pregnant women.
edit on 12-9-2020 by NoCorruptionAllowed because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 12 2020 @ 10:38 PM
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originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: EndtheMadnessNow

If they fight fires the same way they do fascism, that might be a problem.



The red gasoline tank on the back of the Antifa on the right of the picture is unlikely to be used to extinguish fires....




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