40% of Parents Don’t Want LGBT Lessons for 6-Year-Olds, They Must Be ‘Persuaded’

a reply to: Annee

Noticing gender difference is not the same as having sexual awareness.

I love how the left is all about conflating sex and gender as it suits them but the two things are totally different when they need them to be.

a reply to: chelsdh

That lady sounds like a former friend of ours who is constantly having facebook DRAMA over her kids, and guess what? One of them is now trans! There was no way anyone could have predicted that ... /eyeroll

Unfortunately, this is the same one who was constantly getting bullied and other things, so I have my doubts how trans this kid actually is given the age involved but I could be wrong.

originally posted by: Drucifer
I was friends with this kid in elementary school whose parents made him leave the classroom anytime sex ed was brought up. This made the kid’s life hell. It was a trickle down effect for his brothers and sisters that were younger than him. Once your older brother is the weirdo in the class, you’re automatically labeled a weirdo as well. Then we’d be out during recess and the poor kid would just get ridiculed nonstop. I’m not sure what religion his family practiced, but sex was straight up dirty and evil to them (apparently not to his parents, they had 6 kids). He was scared to even talk about it with me and from what little conversation we did have, it was clear he had ZERO knowledge on the matter at all. We were 13 and 14 at the time.

Exactly. If this crap wasn't taught in schools, none of that would have happened.

My wife is an education coordinator for a charter school system. I hear about all the crazy stuff that happens in 73 schools across the US. Kids these days are getting into situations earlier and earlier. Some of these situations have involved kids under 12 and group activities. Then you’ve got crap music like Cardi B’s “WAP”, with such genius lyrics as “keep your pull-out game weak”. This song is being lipsync’d by kids all over the US. I know if I were a parent (thank god I’m not) I’d be damn sure my kid knew exactly what that meant and all the dangers that came along with it. Our own friends were telling us a couple weeks ago that when going through their 12 year old son’s phone, they found that one of his friends was texting porn to him. They’ve got all the parental controls maxed out, so the kid can’t do any searching on his own, but that does nothing for friends sending him pics directly.

Exactly. If this crap wasn't taught in schools, none (or most) of that would have (ever) happened.

Some parents are too uncomfortable bringing it up or don’t think their kid needs to know until they’re older, but that’s only going to leave them to learn from their peers and what they see on social media/TV. All media is flooded with sexual content.

Which is why any parent that lets their kids watch that garbage, and fails to have the appropriate conversations withj their children at the appropriate time, is asking for trouble.

A parent can do whatever they want in belief they’re protecting their kid from it, but that all stops the second the kid leaves the house.

BULL#. Until the kids are of the age of consent, they belong to the parents. Yes, you heard me. They are effectively THE PROPERTY OF their parents.

You want to give THE STATE a PROPERTY INTEREST in these kids. You are one sick puppy.

So really, how do you navigate all that in today’s world?

You leave it to the parents. No system is perfect, but that is the only thing that makes any real sense.

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: tanstaafl
You really cannot teach the endocrine system which includes the gonads without teaching what and how it operates and why.

What does that have to do with teaching 6 yr olds - or ANY year olds - about homosexual sex acts?

So the birds and bees is gonna happen.

Always has, yes - gasp! - even when the State wasn't indoctrinating kids.

Penis, testes, ovaries, uterus, etc., and their function are a large part of that system and its existence.

Skipping endocrine would be omitting a large part of health class and the human body in general.

Who said anything about omitting SCIENCE. That is all SCIENCE.

I won the state science competition in anatomy and physiology in high school in part because my science and health teachers didn't skip the endocrine so my partner and I were able to recognize major parts of the endocrine specific to male reproductive anatomy. That wasn't the only reason. There were lots of tricky ones, but it was one of the practical models on the test.

Good for you... I mean it. But none of that has any bearing whatsoever with regard to the subject of the OP.

originally posted by: tanstaafl

originally posted by: Drucifer

A parent can do whatever they want in belief they’re protecting their kid from it, but that all stops the second the kid leaves the house.

BULL#. Until the kids are of the age of consent, they belong to the parents. Yes, you heard me. They are effectively THE PROPERTY OF their parents.

You want to give THE STATE a PROPERTY INTEREST in these kids. You are one sick puppy.

So really, how do you navigate all that in today’s world?

You leave it to the parents. No system is perfect, but that is the only thing that makes any real sense.

You don’t think kids aren’t talking about this stuff on the playground or on the school bus? Whether or not they’re your “property”, if they’re playing with other kids outside of your home, it’s going to be brought up. You’re delusional if you think other wise.

When did I say I wanted to give the state anything? I literally ended my post with asking HOW to navigate all of that. You come off as an unhinged leftist, pulling assumptions out of your ass and then followed it up with an insult. Settle down, Beavis.

originally posted by: Drucifer
You don’t think kids aren’t talking about this stuff on the playground or on the school bus? Whether or not they’re your “property”, if they’re playing with other kids outside of your home, it’s going to be brought up. You’re delusional if you think other wise.

What is delusional is thinking that such a comment has any relevance whatsoever to the OP or matter under discussion.

Hint: kids interacting on the playground has nothing whatsoever to do with what is taught in the classroom through a formal curriculum.

When did I say I wanted to give the state anything?

When you suggested that The State should be able to teach kids this kind of garbage without the parents consent.

I literally ended my post with asking HOW to navigate all of that.

Yes, and I responded that the only rational way is top leave that kind of thing to the parents.

a reply to: tanstaafl

About the subject in the OP? Not much at all, I was replying to someone who was talking about not teaching it at all. A certain level of basic function has to be taught as a part of health class was my only point there. You can't leave it out and still teach those systems.

originally posted by: tanstaafl

originally posted by: Drucifer
You don’t think kids aren’t talking about this stuff on the playground or on the school bus? Whether or not they’re your “property”, if they’re playing with other kids outside of your home, it’s going to be brought up. You’re delusional if you think other wise.

What is delusional is thinking that such a comment has any relevance whatsoever to the OP or matter under discussion.

Hint: kids interacting on the playground has nothing whatsoever to do with what is taught in the classroom through a formal curriculum.

When did I say I wanted to give the state anything?

When you suggested that The State should be able to teach kids this kind of garbage without the parents consent.

I literally ended my post with asking HOW to navigate all of that.

Yes, and I responded that the only rational way is top leave that kind of thing to the parents.

Go point out where I said anything remotely close to the state being able to teach kids sex ed without the parent’s consent. You’re making crap up.

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: tanstaafl
About the subject in the OP? Not much at all, I was replying to someone who was talking about not teaching it at all. A certain level of basic function has to be taught as a part of health class was my only point there.

Ok, fair enough, but... not to 6 yr olds. Just no. For teenagers, maybe, but it should absolutely and always be an elective, that parents can opt their kids out of.

originally posted by: tanstaafl

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: tanstaafl
About the subject in the OP? Not much at all, I was replying to someone who was talking about not teaching it at all. A certain level of basic function has to be taught as a part of health class was my only point there.

Ok, fair enough, but... not to 6 yr olds. Just no. For teenagers, maybe, but it should absolutely and always be an elective, that parents can opt their kids out of.

Oh, and the full curriculum should always be provided to parents, with elective things like this clearly delineated, and with an enforceable opt-out clause for things like this.