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originally posted by: Lucius Driftwood
Greetings fellow members.
I am aware that this topic has been 'done to death'. I have no intention of suggesting or implying a candidacy for antichrist upon anyone. If that is something you wish to do, you are welcome to suggest and explain why.
What I wanted to do was try and look at the idea of antichrist' from a Judeo/Christian perspective.
That might sound incredibly strange, considering that Jews (mostly) do not accept Jesus as the promised Messiah.
But even if we step away from that, there is a certain amount of information by which the heralding of the Messiah can be found in the Hebrew scriptures.
The Jewish people (religious anyway,) hold to the view that Elijah the prophet will come to announce the forthcoming of the Messiah before He actually comes. This can be found in the book of Malachi (Chapters 3 & 4).
Christians hold this mantle of authority to have been John the Baptist.
As most Jews reject that, they are still awaiting the coming of Elijah the Prophet (or false prophet depending on your theology,) to prepare the way of the LORD and to prepare the hearts and minds of the people to return to their GOD.
It is this perspective I would like to discuss. The coming of Elijah who heralds the imminent arrival of Messiah.
What are the thoughts and perspectives on this from Jewish, Christian, religious and non religious alike in the scheme of forthcoming events?
From a Christian perspective, to my mind it seems many people are out there trying to identify the antichrist, when maybe they should be looking for the forerunner who stands in the place of Elijah and reveals the coming Messiah/'Messiah'.
Your thoughts and the ensuing conversation are welcome.
originally posted by: benrl
My personal view as a Christian, is that the anti-Christ or a version of him always exist, that Satan is not all-knowing, he doesn’t know when the end is.
So there is always a human, prepared for that moment. He knows the signs, but not the exact time, its my view that is why the world has a history of monstrous charismatic leaders. Its not a single person, but many through out history who if the moment is right could be the anti-Christ.
Biblically only God knows the time of the end, Not even the messiah. SO to me it makes sense that we or even Satan himself doesn’t know who will be the anti-Christ, he has many prepared just in case for the right moment.
originally posted by: MetalChickAmy
a reply to: Krahzeef_Ukhar
In what sort of twisted world is creating peace an act of evil? Abrahamic religion has always twisted morals around. Things like love and peace are considered evil, yet it's perfectly justified to go around killing people in the name of their god. Freedom of speech and thought are forbidden, yet owning women as property and having slaves is fine. You cannot be yourself, you have to be a sheep.
It reminds me of the passage in the bible that says the broad path leads to damnation, but the narrow path leads to salvation. It seems to me that blindly following religion, and fitting in with all the other sheep is as broad as it gets. The narrow path is rejecting the dogma and twisted ideology, and thinking for yourself. We are fortunate to live in a time where religion no longer has absolute rule over our lives. Where we are not property, and can be ourselves. We can love another consenting adult despite their gender.
On the downside, this has created a massive vacuum that has been filled by other ideologies, some just as dangerous, others more so. We have the leftist Marxist BLM/Antifa/SJW cult, which has terrifying parallels with another far-left ideology from the 1930's. Yet again, the masses are flocking to them just like what happened in 1930's Germany, what happened with the old religions. Because it's the easy road. Because it makes them look good, and makes them feel safe from the inevitable oppression that is coming. There is only one acronym to describe those type of people, and that is NPC's.
As for the original point, I do not believe there is an anti-christ. Religion was created to control us all, and to legitimise the brutal oppression of the leaders. They created a bogey man all-seeing, all-knowing god that tells them what to do. Making everyone afraid of even their own errant thoughts. Current events are not new, they are the same things that have been happening since forever. We have had an unprecedented period of peace and prosperity, but now the golden age is at an end, current events do seem apocalyptic in comparison. In reality, it is business as usual. War, death, famine, pestilence, oppression. That is the human condition.
Your thoughts and the ensuing conversation are welcome
Is Elijah dead? Is Enoch dead? It is appointed once for all men to die. So far as I'm aware, they aren't dead. They are in the midst of a current of time that to me looks like thousands of years but to them is the blink of an eye. They haven't died yet. But they will.