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Democrat/Socialist Leaders Are Lying About President Trump being only one downplaying COVID-19

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posted on Sep, 13 2020 @ 12:02 AM
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originally posted by: ElectricUniverse

originally posted by: chr0naut

Yet you keep lying despite the fact that I proved you wrong...

I gave you a graph and even circled in red the response of the U.S. to introduce the travel ban, which was earlier than any other country... Yet you are claiming we weren't the first?... LOL Again, you are resorting to "emotional responses' while ignoring all the facts you are shown...




Are you suggesting there are only 14 countries in the world? This is a clear example of someone cherry-picking data that supports their opinion.



originally posted by: chr0naut
Those people were U.S. residents and citizens. People were screened, if there was no suspicion of having COVID-19 they were asked to isolate themselves anyway for 14 days.


You are ignoring the fact that the epidemic spread very rapidly a month after the travel ban. When did the source for that get into the country? Are you suggesting that it just hung around somewhere doing nothing for four weeks? That is longer than the average duration of COVID-19 infectious progression. If it didn't spread to new hosts by then, it would have died out.


One of my cousins had gone to Canary island to visit her boyfriend, and after she came back she was screened, she appeared to not have COVID-19 so she quarantined herself in her apartment, and her daughter brought her food during that time.

This is what most people did.


The operative words there, are"most people". Obviously, from the fact that it did spread, and even then well after the ban, some people clearly did not do that.



originally posted by: chr0naut
Despite all the claims, there is the incontrovertible evidence of what has actually happened.
The evidence debunks your lies...


Do you have another word in you vocabulary? I am not lying, I have presented evidence that supports my case and have explained why what you have presented, is not the case, but is deceptive.

I am not calling you a liar, because you clearly fervently believe what you say.



originally posted by: chr0naut
Ironic since the states that got it worse have been mostly democrat states. States like Wyoming and South Dakota got very few cases, even thou people were not forced to do the things that people have been forced to do in New York, Calihellfornia etc.


Again you are applying local politics in explanation of something that is truly global. The rest of the world are neither Democrats nor Republicans. There could be multiple reasons for the 'Democrat' states to have higher numbers.

Like for instance, a greater population density.

For instance, taking your example of Wyoming, it has a population density of only one person per 5.97 square miles. That's some significant social distancing, on average.

The total population of Wyoming is about 578 thousand people. It would be most likely that even if every single one of them had COVID-19, that their numbers still would be way less than a state with tens of millions of people.


As for "rhetoric and making up excuses"? It is you the one making up excuses and reaching false conclusions... Even when evidence is shown to you that you are wrong you claim that having so much evidence debunking your claims makes you right... Reason has ceased to exist in your mind. Apparently your TDS has lowered your IQ to levels that it doesn't let you reach reasonable conclusions.


Please explain how an ideological preference is capable of changing someone's IQ? LOL. You are making things up now just to insult, and the rationale is so deficient, it rebounds.

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posted on Sep, 13 2020 @ 12:15 AM
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originally posted by: NoCorruptionAllowed
a reply to: chr0naut

How do you even know? You don't.


I am quoting supportive data from impecably credentialed sources such as the John's Hopkins Coronavirus Resource center.


You are only following the Borg group think.
You don't even know how transparent it is to those who are still individuals.



What has individuality got to do with the truth?

The truth is absolute. It doesn't change no matter how many flies are eating that $#it.



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posted on Sep, 13 2020 @ 12:27 AM
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originally posted by: ElectricUniverse

originally posted by: chr0naut

Yet those countries have been opening their businesses, and schools.


Really? How many countries have not had any lockdown, and how many have?


But now demoncrats/socialists are openly stating that they don't want to open the country until after the election. This makes no sense whatsoever unless demoncrats/socialists in power in the U.S. are using COVID-19 as a political tool to drive the economy through the ground while President Trump is still in power, but demoncrats/socialists in power hope that they win the election and then they can open the economy, schools etc...


They don't want to stop taking the medicine until they are over the malady. That has little to do with elections. Some of us understand these things.

Remember all those conservative American pundits who said that America was over if they had lockdowns? Well, they now have had lockdowns. It has been hard, but take a look around, were they right?


If demoncrats/socialists in power in the U.S. really though the virus was that bad, why is it that they have been caught ignoring their own calls for people to stay at home, or to have a mask when in public?

Pelosi was caught without a mask in a salon, and she has the galls to claim she was set up and it is the fault of the salon owner...

Cuomo, the news liar who works for Castro's News Network, was caught when he had the virus going to a park in New York but far from his home and with his entire family... Even though his own brother, and CNN's Cuomo as well, were claiming that there were too many people in parks, or out in the streets in New York and throughout the country and that needs to change...





Then there is that other authoritarian governor of Michigan, Gretchen Whitmer. When her husband was caught attempting to use his wife's influence to get their boat released, she first claimed it was all a lie and her husband didn't do that. Then she changed her tune and claimed her husband just used a fail attempt at a joke...



BTW, the above video was made before Whitmer first denied, and then claimed it was a joke her husband attempted to make, which proves what the owner of the dock stated.



Let's not forget that Whitmer gave the same order that Deblasio gave to nursing homes demanding that they accept COVID-19 patients, which caused thousands of seniors to contract and die from the virus...

Or what about Pennsylvania Health Secretary Rachel Levine, who moved her mother out of a personal care home while demanding that senior homes should accept patients with COVID-19, which also caused many seniors to contract and die from COVID-19...

PA Health Secretary Moved Mother Out Of Personal Care Home After Ordering Nursing Homes To Accept COVID Patients

But of course "never-Trumpers" shift the blame and attempt to claim "it was President Trump's fault..." That's how deluded you "never-Trumpers" are...

Anyways, there are dozens and dozens of examples just like the ones above, in which demoncrats/socialists show how authoritarian they are demanding that everyone follow their orders, except their family and themselves...

Another example of the untethered authoritarianism of demoncrats/socialists in power is that of Illinois' governor, J.B. Pritzker, who sent his wife and family to Florida while demanding that everyone else stays in their homes in Illinois.

Illinois’ Democrat Governor Melts Down After Reporter Asks Why Family Is Spending Lockdown In Florida

This is what demoncrats/socialists are, a bunch of authoritarians whom want to control everyone else's lives, but don't want their family or themselves to be ruled by the same rules they demand everyone else must follow. This even happens when it comes to the second amendment, in which several demoncrats/socialists have been demanding to ban firearms while they have been caught having firearms, or are caught red handed with illegal firemars while they demand everyone else's right to the second amendment should be controlled...


Yes, but you forget, all of these people were human, and, more specifically, Americans.

I rest my case.



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posted on Sep, 13 2020 @ 11:51 AM
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a reply to: chr0naut

Don't suppose you have any credentials to back up your unpopular, unverifiable opinion, mein führer?

Keep up the stuggle. Maintain the status quo till the bitter end. Look at her go...




posted on Sep, 13 2020 @ 05:45 PM
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originally posted by: chr0naut

No, you said it, but that doesn't prove it. I can provide data that counters your data. Therefore, neither case is 'proven' until one can eliminate one of the sets of data as fallacious.


I didn't say it, I posted evidence of medical doctors saying it themselves. You haven't proven anything, you are trying to claim these people didn't say what they clearly did say... You are insane, and unable to comprehend a discussion or even evidence which clearly disputes your false argument...

Again, I didn't say anything doctors themselves haven't said. I posted videos of doctors admitting that the numbers are being inflated, that even cases that haven't been confirmed as having COVID-19 have been counted because it was "believed/assumed" they had COVID-19...



originally posted by: chr0naut
A comorbidity does not mean that someone did not die from one of them. It means that there were multiple factors that together caused death. Generally, the virus in end stages of the patient causes a cascade of organ failures and conditions, these are comorbidities.


Someone dying in a car crash isn't a comorbidity from COVID-19... People who haven't been confirmed as having COVID-19 and are only suspected/believed to have had the virus doesn't equal to the virus causing comorbidities...


originally posted by: chr0naut
96% is still less than 148%. Even by your own measures (which I strongly doubt), the USA has more deaths from COVID-19 than any other country.


What the heck?... You pull a percentage number out of your behind, and you are using that made up number to claim you are right?... Stop making such fallacious arguments, or simply stay out of the thread... This is the most stupid argument I have seen in a long time...

Four days ago the alleged numbers of people who died of COVID-19 is 190,000 as per U.S. COVID-19 deaths near 190,000

What is the true percentage of deaths that can be attributed to COVID-19? According to the CDC 6%.

6% of 190,000 = 11,400

If we use the numbers from this site instead.

The U.S. has 196,856. 6% of 196,856 = 11,811

According to the above site 13 other countries would have the highest death toll than the U.S.
India, Brazil, Russia, Peru, Colombia, Mexico, South Africa, Spain, Chile, Iran, France, The United Kingdom, and Italy would have higher numbers of deaths from COVID-19.



originally posted by: chr0naut
In a statistical distribution, having a median value in a distribution tells you that the closer to the median you come, the closer to the normal, or average of all values, you are. This is what is shown by the USA's COVID-19 case-mortality figures.

It tends to prove out the validity of the US case-mortality statistics that they are close to the average of all countries.


This is false when you are using numbers that are inflated on purpose to make it look like the U.S. has more cases. Cases that have not been confirmed as having COVID-19, but were suspected/believed they had COVID-19 by itself would skew the statistics. But hey, you leftists demand that the U.S. must be able to test everyone, yet you don't demand the same of any other country... Yet you blame the POTUS for not doing what most other countries, or all, can't do themselves...


originally posted by: chr0naut
I said that what he did do, was ineffective.


False, you lied and made claims which can be easily debunked, and when evidence that disproves your claim were shown you made up a "conspiracy theory" that having so much evidence that refutes your false argument proves your point while you claim "they are dubious excuses..."


originally posted by: chr0naut
Trump claims he was the first to implement a travel ban from China. The truth is that there were 45 other countries that implemented various travel limitations relating to the epidemic, before the US did on Feb 2nd:

Travel Restrictions on China due to COVID-19 - Think Global Health, The Council on Foreign Relations
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LOL, look who is talking about "cherry picking." The POTUS was talking about being the first implementing several initiatives which were not implemented so fast before in the U.S. He also talked about implementing the travel ban from the first confirmed case in the U.S. Which your site does not mention how long it took those other countries to implement the ban after the first confirmed case in those countries.

Second, your site even points out how many countries allowed their own citizens and legal residents to enter their countries, but you only want to blame the U.S. for doing this.

Australia is an example of a country that allowed it's own citizens and legal residents to enter the country... Yet you only attack the U.S. for doing the same thing. Not to mention that even though Australia, and other countries, allowed their own citizens, and residents to enter their countries, the infected and death toll from COVID-19 in Australia is only 810... Australia, and countries like New Zealand also implemented travel bans from countries like China, and despite the fact that they allowed their own citizens and residents to enter their countries, the death toll and infections were low. But you want to claim that the U.S. doing the same thing as Australia and New Zealand, among other countries, wouldn't have done anything to stop the spread of infections and deaths?...



originally posted by: chr0naut
Also, Trump's "travel ban" allowed US citizens and their families to still travel into the US from affected areas, so it was ineffective by design:


Read above...

From your site...


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AUSTRALIA imposed an entry ban on all foreign nationals, except for permanent residents or immediate family members of Australian citizens and permanent residents, that have left or transited through mainland China, effective February 1. Australia also suspended temporary visas for visa holders ineligible for entry into Australia
...
BAHAMAS imposed an entry ban on any non-resident, regardless of nationality, who has visited China in the past twenty days, effective January 30
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NEW ZEALAND imposed an entry ban on any foreign nationals who have left or transited through mainland China after February 2, effective February 2
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www.thinkglobalhealth.org...

In other words, your argument is kaput and BS.




edit on 13-9-2020 by ElectricUniverse because: add and correct comment.



posted on Sep, 13 2020 @ 08:08 PM
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originally posted by: EndofSaturn
a reply to: chr0naut

Don't suppose you have any credentials to back up your unpopular, unverifiable opinion, mein führer?

Keep up the stuggle. Maintain the status quo till the bitter end. Look at her go...




Yes, you are right, although I feel I do have a brain in there, I have never actually seen it.




posted on Sep, 13 2020 @ 09:37 PM
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originally posted by: ElectricUniverse

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I didn't say it, I posted evidence of medical doctors saying it themselves. You haven't proven anything, you are trying to claim these people didn't say what they clearly did say... You are insane, and unable to comprehend a discussion or even evidence which clearly disputes your false argument...


While there are rogue 'doctors' that have presented the information you have posted, there are many other doctors, and doctorates, and associations of doctors and academics, and governmental health authorities, that counter them.

There are also internet kooks who frequently misrepresent their qualifications, so it pays to actually check their credentials rather than just assume that they are an authority, especially if other credentialled authorities disagree.


Again, I didn't say anything doctors themselves haven't said. I posted videos of doctors admitting that the numbers are being inflated, that even cases that haven't been confirmed as having COVID-19 have been counted because it was "believed/assumed" they had COVID-19...


You seem to have no idea that statistics and data can be presented in such a way as to falsify what it tells us. Like with cherry-picking particular cases, or by applying an invalid and external presumption to the dataset.


Someone dying in a car crash isn't a comorbidity from COVID-19...


But someone trying to drive a car could suffer an attack of hypoxia, due to pneumonia, due to COVOID-19, and crash the car. That would be evidenced postmortem by cyanosis, lactic acid levels, petechiae, blood fluidity, and acidosis. If someone who was COVID-19 positive died in a car crash and had those indicators it shows that COVID-19 was a comorbidity.


People who haven't been confirmed as having COVID-19 and are only suspected/believed to have had the virus doesn't equal to the virus causing comorbidities...


Quite true.


What the heck?... You pull a percentage number out of your behind, and you are using that made up number to claim you are right?... Stop making such fallacious arguments, or simply stay out of the thread... This is the most stupid argument I have seen in a long time...


The USA had over 148% more deaths than the next lower country, Brazil. Try it yourself: 148% of 129,575.


Four days ago the alleged numbers of people who died of COVID-19 is 190,000 as per U.S. COVID-19 deaths near 190,000


Today it is 194,041.


What is the true percentage of deaths that can be attributed to COVID-19? According to the CDC 6%.


No. they didn't say that. The CDC said 6% was the percentage without any comorbidities.

... snipped your calculations and conclusions here for brevity and because they were based on false assumption ...


This is false when you are using numbers that are inflated on purpose to make it look like the U.S. has more cases. Cases that have not been confirmed as having COVID-19, but were suspected/believed they had COVID-19 by itself would skew the statistics. But hey, you leftists demand that the U.S. must be able to test everyone, yet you don't demand the same of any other country... Yet you blame the POTUS for not doing what most other countries, or all, can't do themselves...


I am not a 'leftist'.

Trump also lied again. He has now even deleted the tweet.

Fact check: CDC's data on COVID-19 deaths used incorrectly in misleading claims - USA Today


False, you lied and made claims which can be easily debunked, and when evidence that disproves your claim were shown you made up a "conspiracy theory" that having so much evidence that refutes your false argument proves your point while you claim "they are dubious excuses..."

LOL, look who is talking about "cherry picking." The POTUS was talking about being the first implementing several initiatives which were not implemented so fast before in the U.S. He also talked about implementing the travel ban from the first confirmed case in the U.S. Which your site does not mention how long it took those other countries to implement the ban after the first confirmed case in those countries.


AP FACT CHECK: Trump’s inaccurate boasts on China travel ban - Associated Press


Second, your site even points out how many countries allowed their own citizens and legal residents to enter their countries, but you only want to blame the U.S. for doing this.

Australia is an example of a country that allowed it's own citizens and legal residents to enter the country... Yet you only attack the U.S. for doing the same thing. Not to mention that even though Australia, and other countries, allowed their own citizens, and residents to enter their countries, the infected and death toll from COVID-19 in Australia is only 810... Australia, and countries like New Zealand also implemented travel bans from countries like China, and despite the fact that they allowed their own citizens and residents to enter their countries, the death toll and infections were low. But you want to claim that the U.S. doing the same thing as Australia and New Zealand, among other countries, wouldn't have done anything to stop the spread of infections and deaths?...


In other countries, returning citizens went into very tight and extended quarrantine, and not under their own recognisance. It wasn't just PR.


Read above...

From your site...


...
AUSTRALIA imposed an entry ban on all foreign nationals, except for permanent residents or immediate family members of Australian citizens and permanent residents, that have left or transited through mainland China, effective February 1. Australia also suspended temporary visas for visa holders ineligible for entry into Australia
...
BAHAMAS imposed an entry ban on any non-resident, regardless of nationality, who has visited China in the past twenty days, effective January 30
...
NEW ZEALAND imposed an entry ban on any foreign nationals who have left or transited through mainland China after February 2, effective February 2
...

www.thinkglobalhealth.org...

In other words, your argument is kaput and BS.


Already explained. In New Zealand, people were allowed into the country and were then taken straight to quarantine facilities, almost without exception.

But there may have been lapses. I don't know as I didn't personally monitor things. Even if there were lapses, you have to admit that it would make the travel bans nearly useless.

But, look at the numbers, and how they evolved over time. Look at what they are now.

... but everyone else in the world must be a lying, because Trump said so.

LOL


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posted on Sep, 14 2020 @ 12:13 AM
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originally posted by: midnightstar
Yes Trump issued a travel band which was ignored for all the good it did .
Then spent the next Month saying how great every thing was how good of a job he did and how the virus was nothing no big deal a Democrat plot .

Theres Is NO question the Democrats did ZIP nada There is also No question what little trump did had almost no effect .

Or does Trump have ANY responsibility for any thing as president ? Sounds like a bunch of 5 years olds here .
OOO BUT Billy did such and such as if this makes it ok for Trump to do The same things .


I sure as Hell wouldn't put back in power the psycho's who put our lives at risk to sabotage Trumps efforts. At what point do you become derelict in your duty as a voter? In America voters have put in a power 5 year old clowns. Trump has to deal with those murderous pack of thieves.
edit on 14-9-2020 by Doctor Smith because: more brilliance realized



posted on Sep, 14 2020 @ 08:31 PM
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originally posted by: chr0naut

While there are rogue 'doctors' that have presented the information you have posted, there are many other doctors, and doctorates, and associations of doctors and academics, and governmental health authorities, that counter them.


ROFLMAO... Dr. Birx, whom is part of the Coronavirus response team is a rogue doctor?...
Dr. Ngozi Ezik is the director of Illinois Department of Public Health, and despite her attempts at backpedaling she admitted and I quote:


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"If you were in hospice and had already been given a few weeks to live, and then you also were found to have COVID, that would be counted as a COVID death. It means technically even if you died of a clear alternate cause, but you had COVID at the same time, it's still listed as a COVID death. So, everyone who's listed as a COVID death doesn't mean that that was the cause of the death, but they had COVID at the time of the death.
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IDPH Director explains how Covid deaths are classified


originally posted by: chr0naut
There are also internet kooks who frequently misrepresent their qualifications, so it pays to actually check their credentials rather than just assume that they are an authority, especially if other credentialled authorities disagree.


Instead of making rhetorical claims based on lies present evidence any of these doctors I gave evidence about are "internet kooks..."


originally posted by: chr0naut
You seem to have no idea that statistics and data can be presented in such a way as to falsify what it tells us. Like with cherry-picking particular cases, or by applying an invalid and external presumption to the dataset.


False, statistical data has been misused, even by so called experts, many times over. Despite the fact that I showed evidence that debunks your claims, you keep trying to change your argument and keep making fallacious, and false claims.

Doctors like Birx, Dr. Ngozi Ezike, and others of which I presented their own statements make no mention of "comorbitidies" in the statements I presented... They don't say "people who died of comorbidities from COVIID-19 are also counted..." They have said "people who clearly died of other causes and had COVIID-19 were counted."

How many people have had COVID-19 yet presented no symptoms and died of other causes have been included in the numbers of infected and deaths even though they died of something else?... These doctors are clearly stating as long as people had COVID-19, even if they died of other causes they are being counted. Dr. Birx, and others have stated that the U.S. is counting this way but other countries are not counting the same way.



originally posted by: chr0naut
But someone trying to drive a car could suffer an attack of hypoxia, due to pneumonia, due to COVOID-19, and crash the car. That would be evidenced postmortem by cyanosis, lactic acid levels, petechiae, blood fluidity, and acidosis. If someone who was COVID-19 positive died in a car crash and had those indicators it shows that COVID-19 was a comorbidity.


You keep attempting to play with semantics and "what ifs" scenarios which have not been proven right.



originally posted by: chr0naut
The USA had over 148% more deaths than the next lower country, Brazil. Try it yourself: 148% of 129,575.


Numbers which have been inflated on purpose for political reasons, just like democrats want the U.S. shut down until after the elections for political motives and not really because of COVID-19 when democrat/socialist leaders have been caught doing the opposite of what they demand people to do "to stay at home" and "always use masks when going out..."


originally posted by: chr0naut
Today it is 194,041.


6% of 194,041 = 11,642

The large majority of people have COVID-19 and don't present symptoms, or their symptoms are minimal. Yet even many of these people have also died of other causes, and even though COVID-19, nor comorbidities, caused their deaths because they had COVID-19 in their system they are counted as dying of/with COVID-19...



originally posted by: chr0naut
I am not a 'leftist'.

Trump also lied again. He has now even deleted the tweet.


Another of your dozens, and dozens of lies.



originally posted by: chr0naut
In other countries, returning citizens went into very tight and extended quarrantine, and not under their own recognisance. It wasn't just PR.


You sir are a LIAR.


By Ron Paul Wednesday, 05 August 2020 07:14 AM

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The fact is, Europeans are realizing that their government-mandated lockdowns did little or nothing to protect them from the virus, while causing economic catastrophe and untold human suffering.

They likely looked around and noticed that Sweden, which never locked down its economy, rejected face masks, and kept its restaurants and other places of business open, did not fare any worse than the countries that have been turned into open air prisons for much of the year.

In fact, Sweden had a lower death rate from the virus than strict lockdown states like the UK and France.

No wonder people are starting to get angry.

Unfortunately, while the Europeans are waking up, Americans are still asleep as our freedoms continue to be trampled. While Europeans demand an end to government tyranny, here we see states with minuscule new deaths returning to lockdown.
...


Europeans Are Waking Up to Govt Covid Tyranny, When Will We?

As a matter of fact Scandinavian countries, among some others, didn't lock down completely their countries yet they have not fared worse than countries, or democrat states in the U.S. in which the numbers of infected and deaths are worse than in Scandinavian countries...



originally posted by: chr0naut
Already explained. In New Zealand, people were allowed into the country and were then taken straight to quarantine facilities, almost without exception.


Read above, and you sir are a compulsory liar.



originally posted by: chr0naut
... but everyone else in the world must be a lying, because Trump said so.

LOL



The only one lying keeps being you. Where did I type "the whole world is lying"?... You are the one lying, European/Scandinavian countries which decided not to lockdown their entire countries have fared better than democrat states in the U.S. which forced people to stay at home while democrat/socialist leaders did the opposite and went out even with their entire families even when they had COVID-19 like CNN's Cuomo did...




edit on 14-9-2020 by ElectricUniverse because: correct comment and link.



posted on Sep, 14 2020 @ 08:41 PM
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originally posted by: chr0naut
No. they didn't say that. The CDC said 6% was the percentage without any comorbidities.

... snipped your calculations and conclusions here for brevity and because they were based on false assumption ...


The only one continuing to make false assumptions keeps being you...

These doctors, and the CDC have not written or said 'only people who clearly died directly from COVID-19 or with comorbidities are being counted...'

They have written and said 'Even when people haven't died because of COVID-19 as long as it is in the system of people, if they died with COVID-19 it is being counted as dying of/with COVID-19...'

In fact, and again, here is what the CDC also wrote...


...
COVID-19 deaths are identified using a new ICD–10 code. When COVID-19 is reported as a cause of death – or when it is listed as a “probable” or “presumed” cause — the death is coded as U07.1. This can include cases with or without laboratory confirmation.
...

www.cdc.gov...

People who showed no symptoms yet died of something else have been counted in the U.S. as dying of/with COVID-19...
Heck, even when people weren't confirmed by labs of having COVID-19 they have, and are being counted as dying of/with COVID-19.

Stop lying please.




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posted on Sep, 14 2020 @ 08:46 PM
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a reply to: ElectricUniverse




Read above, and you sir are a compulsory liar.


I think the word you are looking for might be "compulsive." That term can apply to the president quite nicely. Or some might just say that he was mistaken at times.


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posted on Sep, 14 2020 @ 09:38 PM
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originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: ElectricUniverse




Read above, and you sir are a compulsory liar.


I think the word you are looking for might be "compulsive." That term can apply to the president quite nicely. Or some might just say that he was mistaken at times.



So I made a mistake in one word. Yet you try to shift the blame to the POTUS when your own democrat/socialist leaders made the same remarks even on March 2020 that he President was making because WHO and China lied to the world...



posted on Sep, 14 2020 @ 09:40 PM
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a reply to: ElectricUniverse

I have no idea what you are blithering about. All I did was point out that the president is often called a "compulsory" liar. I didn't blame him for anything in that post.


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posted on Sep, 14 2020 @ 10:24 PM
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originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: ElectricUniverse

I have no idea what you are blithering about. All I did was point out that the president is often called a "compulsory" liar. I didn't blame him for anything in that post.



You make a rhetorical, and false, claim completely off topic while claiming the POTUS is a compulsive liar, when your own democrat/socialist leaders were saying the same things President Trump said at first and you want to claim you don't know what I am talking about?...

BTW, you stated "That term can apply to the president quite nicely. " But you want to claim you were referring to others calling the President a compulsive liar?...

I am guessing "those other people" made you write that claim?...



posted on Sep, 14 2020 @ 10:26 PM
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a reply to: ElectricUniverse

No. I wrote it all by myself.

Trump lies often. Often for no apparent reason. That would qualify as compulsive, I think.


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posted on Sep, 15 2020 @ 04:10 AM
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Phage, do you believe Biden /Harris is better for the U. S., than Trump/Pence?



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