Asian privilege?

Here’s a list of U.S. median household incomes of ethnic groups in descending order. Seven of the Top Ten are Asian.

1. Indian American (2019): $123,453 [12]
2. Taiwanese Americans (2018): $102,328[10]
3. Chinese Americans & Taiwanese Americans: (2018): $93,944[10]
4. Korean American (2018): $93,315[10]
5. Filipino American (2018): $92,328[10]
6. Australian American (2016): $90,930[12]
7. South African American (2017): $90,517[12]
8. Austrian American (2016): $80,717[12]
9. Japanese American (2018): $80,036[10]
10. Singaporean American (2016) $79,852[12][...]

My group — Scottish Americans — came in at No. 78, with a median household income less than $52,000. Welsh Americans were 80th and English Americans were 85th. All of these British ancestry groups had lower incomes than Americans of Jamaican, Barbadian, Nigerian, Guyanese, West Indian, British West Indian, Ghanaian and Trinbagonian ancestry.

Folks who identified as British American (rather than English, Scottish, etc.) ranked lower than Ghanaians, Guyanese and Nigerians.

The footnote links at the end of each ancestry group denote the following sources: [10] is from a 2018 U.S. Census Bureau survey, [12] is from a 2015 Census Bureau survey, [13] is from a 2014 Census Bureau survey, [14] is from a 2015 Pew Research study, [15] is from a 2014 Washington Post story and [16] is from a 2015 Pew Research study.

You can see the entire list from No. 1 to No. 98 at the following site:
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Most Asian cultures put a high emphasis on education and career. I also don't think they give a # about it being called Asian privilege.

The way I see it, anyone who works hard and gets ahead deserves credit, regardless of their color, race or religion. Anyone who thinks otherwise is the racist one.

Could it also be to do with the fact that many of these cultures life in multi generational homes and could account for higher household income?

a reply to: Scapegrace

I find this interesting.

95. African Americans(2013): $33,500[16]

7.South African American (2017): $90,517[12]
49. Ghanaian American (2016): $66,571[12]
54. Egyptian American (2016): $64,728[12]
63.. Nigerian American (2016): $60,732[12]
75. Moroccan American (2016): $52,436[12]
86. Cape Verdean American (2016): $47,281[12]
92. Ethiopian American (2016): $41,357[12]
98. Somali American: $18,756[15]

How do African Americans fall at 95, when all the African countries listed are far higher than that apart from Somalia and Ethiopia?

a reply to: [post=25414298]dug88[/po

Could the difference be that african american are american born whereas those listed as specific countries might include a lot of immigrants?

I was an immigrant in the 70s and my dad had to have jobs that were needed and serve time working in remote areas but he was only accepted due to his degree.(he was a dentist) This could account for this discrepancy... well trained individuals are most likely to be able to immigrate and be accepted. There are refugee populations but they might be a much smaller number that university degree immigrants that can provide the country with decades of tax money.

originally posted by: dug88
a reply to: Scapegrace

I find this interesting.

95. African Americans(2013): $33,500[16]

7.South African American (2017): $90,517[12]
49. Ghanaian American (2016): $66,571[12]
54. Egyptian American (2016): $64,728[12]
63.. Nigerian American (2016): $60,732[12]
75. Moroccan American (2016): $52,436[12]
86. Cape Verdean American (2016): $47,281[12]
92. Ethiopian American (2016): $41,357[12]
98. Somali American: $18,756[15]

How do African Americans fall at 95, when all the African countries listed are far higher than that apart from Somalia and Ethiopia?

Immigrant culture with an emphasis on education. IRCC, Nigerians are the highest educated immigrant group. Africans have a similar Tiger Mom mentality as Asians. You are a doctor, lawyer, or nobody....

a reply to: dug88

Because those ethnic groups don't identify as African Americans. African Americans are usually people who have been here for a generation or two. The others are more directly immigrant, have ties to their actual country of origin.

Well, look at what cultures work their asses off, don't suck on the gov teet and aren't complaining about everything that don't have or think they should have...

quite simple really

a reply to: Edumakated

The African people and children I have interacted with (Cameroon, Nigeria, Senegal) all take academics very seriously so the chart is not surprising. Besides their thick accent from home, which sometimes is hard to get through they are generally more well spoken than most native born Americans in the same groups I deal with. Often very polite and good work ethic

a reply to: igloo

That's a good point. Having parents/grandparents in the same house allows a spouse to go to school or work without worrying about childcare.

It's just cultural differences, not a "privilege".

The question should be what are they doing that other cultures are not? Further, what values, ethics, and morals do they practice and why aren't they emulated?

This whole "privilege" bs is just a deflective guilt trip put upon the masses to mask people's inherent ineptitude.

Success takes WORK.....SOLID WORK. No one is truly stupid unless they want to be.

originally posted by: EternalShadow


This whole "privilege" bs is just a deflective guilt trip put upon the masses to mask people's inherent ineptitude.

Exactly. Some folks substitute "Race" or "Color" for the word "Culture"

originally posted by: Scapegrace
Here’s a list of U.S. median household incomes of ethnic groups in descending order. Seven of the Top Ten are Asian.

1. Indian American (2019): $123,453 [12]
2. Taiwanese Americans (2018): $102,328[10]
3. Chinese Americans & Taiwanese Americans: (2018): $93,944[10]
4. Korean American (2018): $93,315[10]
5. Filipino American (2018): $92,328[10]
6. Australian American (2016): $90,930[12]
7. South African American (2017): $90,517[12]
8. Austrian American (2016): $80,717[12]
9. Japanese American (2018): $80,036[10]
10. Singaporean American (2016) $79,852[12]
11. Russian American (2016): $77,841[12]
12. Pakistani American (2018): $77,074[10]
13. Bulgarian American (2016): $76,862[12]
14. Lithuanian American (2016): $76,694[12]
15. Israeli American (2016): $76,584[12]
16. Slovene American (2016): $75,940[12]
17. Iranian American (2017): $75,905[12]
18. Basque American (2016): $75,864[12]
19. Lebanese American (2016): $75,337[12]
20. Croatian American (2016): $73,991[12]
21. Sri Lankan American: $73,856[12]
22. Scandinavian American (2016): $73,797[12]
23. Belgian American (2016): $73,443[12]
24. Swiss American (2016): $72,823[12]
25. Italian American (2016): $72,586[12]
26. Ukrainian American (2016): $72,449[12]
27. Romanian American (2016): $72,381[12]
28. Greek American (2016): $72,291[12]
29. Polish American (2016): $71,172[12]
30. Danish American (2016): $71,550[12]
31. Swedish American (2016): $71,217[12]
32. Slavic American (2016): $71,163[12]
33. Norwegian American (2016): $71,142[12]
34. Indonesian American: $70,851[10]
35. Canadian American (2016): $70,809[12]
36. Czech American (2016): $70,454[12]
37. Finnish American (2016): $70,045[12]
38. Serbian American (2016): $70,028[12]
39. French Canadian American (2016): $68,075[12]
40. Hungarian American (2016): $69,515[12]
41. Portuguese American (2016): $67,807[12]
42. Cambodian American: $67,766[10]
43. Slovak American (2016): $67,471[12]
44. Armenian American (2016): $67,450[12]
45. Hmong American (2018) $67,372[10]
46. Vietnamese American (2018): $67,331[10]
47. German American (2016): $67,306[12]
48. Irish American (2016): $66,688[12]
49. Ghanaian American (2016): $66,571[12]
50. Turkish American (2016): $66,566[12]
51. Laotian American (2018): $65,958[10]
52. Thai Americans (2018): $65,357[10]
53. Palestinian American (2016): $65,170[12]
54. Egyptian American (2016): $64,728[12]
55. Dutch American (2016): $63,597[12]
56. French American (2016): $63,471[12]
57. Median American Household Income (2018): $63,179[10]
58. Syrian American (2016): $63,096[12]
59. Nepalese American: $62,848[13]
60. Albanian American (2016): $62,624[12]
61. Polynesian American (2018): $61,654[10]
62. Guyanese American (2016): $60,968[12]
63. Nigerian American (2016): $60,732[12]
64. British American (2016): $59,872[12]
65. British West Indian American (2016): $60,407[12]
66. Cuban American: $57,000[14]
67. West Indian American: $56,998[12]
68. Brazilian American (2016): $56,151[12]
69. Barbadian American: $56,078[12]
70. Argentine American: $55,000[15]
71. Scotch-Irish American (2016): $54,187[12]
72. Jamaican American (2016): $52,669[12]
73. Trinbagonian Americans: $55,303[12]
74. Cajun American: $52,886[12]
75. Moroccan American (2016): $52,436[12]
76. Peruvian Americans: $52,000[12]
77. American Americans (2016): $51,601[12]
78. Scottish American (2016): $51,925[12]
79. Jordanian American (2016): $51,552[12]
80. Welsh American (2016): $50,351[12]
81. Pennsylvania German American (2016): $48,955[12]
82. Ecuadorian American: $48,600[12]
83. Colombian American: $48,000[15]
84. Haitian American (2016): $47,990[12]
85. English American (2016): $47,663[12]
86. Cape Verdean American (2016): $47,281[12]
87. Bangladeshi American: $47,252[12]
88. Burmese American (2018): $45,348[10]
88. Assyrian/Chaldean/Syriac American (2016): $44,733[12]
99. Afghan American: $43,838[12]
91. Bahamian American: $42,000[12]
92. Ethiopian American (2016): $41,357[12]
93. Mexican American: $38,000[15]
94. Puerto Rican American: $36,000[15]
95. African Americans(2013): $33,500[16]
96. Iraqi American (2016): $32,818[12]
97. Dominican American: $32,000[15]
98. Somali American: $18,756[15]

My group — Scottish Americans — came in at No. 78, with a median household income less than $52,000. Welsh Americans were 80th and English Americans were 85th. All of these British ancestry groups had lower incomes than Americans of Jamaican, Barbadian, Nigerian, Guyanese, West Indian, British West Indian, Ghanaian and Trinbagonian ancestry.

Folks who identified as British American (rather than English, Scottish, etc.) ranked lower than Ghanaians, Guyanese and Nigerians.

The footnote links at the end of each ancestry group denote the following sources: [10] is from a 2018 U.S. Census Bureau survey, [12] is from a 2015 Census Bureau survey, [13] is from a 2014 Census Bureau survey, [14] is from a 2015 Pew Research study, [15] is from a 2014 Washington Post story and [16] is from a 2015 Pew Research study.

en.m.wikipedia.org...

One could make several points based on this 'Wikipedea' data.

You failed to make one. Are you assuming that people know what you are thinking?

You seem pissed off? Why is that?

This is statistical AVERAGE data that applies only to populations not individuals. A person in any of the ethic groups listed (if ethnic is even a valid word for this delineation) could make $5,000 a year or $1,000,000 a year and be part of that groups average.

What are you pissed off about? That people of Scotitsh decent are #78 on the list. What does that have to do with you?

Do you feel entitled to a certain wage because of your ethnic background regardless of your education (formal and not - think social skill and emotional intelligence otherwise known as character), skills and experience.

Do you get to add up all the the ethnic background in your DNA to get the correct amount?

Let's see - I have some Scotts in me too and Icelandic, Norwegian, and Engilsh on my Mothers side plus German, French and Eastern European on my Dad's. And that's just the acknowledged forbearer there may be many unacknowledged ethnic groups as well. African, Middle Eastern maybe even an American Indian or two. So how much should I make?

Again, what are you pissed about and what does this list have to do with your anger.

a reply to: ketsuko

So maybe the whole idea of 'African american' is a flawed idea in and of itself.

a reply to: Edumakated

Yep, have a buddy who is Nigerian-American. Huge family, everyone is a doctor or lawyer, aside from one sister who is a dead-beat, and my buddy who works in infosec. Not quite the same as a doctor or lawyer, but we do make pretty decent money at the end of the day.

You want to see a family that works its ass off, that's them, some of the most ambitious people I've ever met. My buddy, married a Nigerian-American doctor as well, so yeah, it's certainly cultural.

originally posted by: dug88
a reply to: ketsuko

So maybe the whole idea of 'African american' is a flawed idea in and of itself.

Yes, it is, and the AP characterization of black to where they decided to capitalize it was also quite flawed and insulting really.

a reply to: peter_kandra

I have two Indian (Sikhs) friends. One still lives at home because he's looking for the 'right girl'. Yet he has a good job, rents out a townhouse, that he owns, etc. The other didn't move out until... she got married.

The whole, get out of the house at 18 thing is a very north American or I guess 'white people' thing. My mother is Italian, when I 'moved out' it was like the worst day of her life.

a reply to: Scapegrace

I'm white. I make less than half of the number 10 spot. Wtf is my white privilege? I feel like I'm being robbed now.

originally posted by: dug88
a reply to: Scapegrace

I find this interesting.

95. African Americans(2013): $33,500[16]

7.South African American (2017): $90,517[12]
49. Ghanaian American (2016): $66,571[12]
54. Egyptian American (2016): $64,728[12]
63.. Nigerian American (2016): $60,732[12]
75. Moroccan American (2016): $52,436[12]
86. Cape Verdean American (2016): $47,281[12]
92. Ethiopian American (2016): $41,357[12]
98. Somali American: $18,756[15]

How do African Americans fall at 95, when all the African countries listed are far higher than that apart from Somalia and Ethiopia?

Thats what I don’t understand. Even Haitian Americans were ranked much higher, and Haiti is one of the poorest nations on Earth.

originally posted by: strongfp
a reply to: peter_kandra

I have two Indian (Sikhs) friends. One still lives at home because he's looking for the 'right girl'. Yet he has a good job, rents out a townhouse, that he owns, etc. The other didn't move out until... she got married.

The whole, get out of the house at 18 thing is a very north American or I guess 'white people' thing. My mother is Italian, when I 'moved out' it was like the worst day of her life.

My wife's Italian, born in Rome Italian. We actually moved in together the year before we got married when we bought our first house. Surprisingly her parents didn't mind (too much), since like you said, a child moving out is pretty much the end of an Italian mom's world!