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Originally posted by drogo
concentration camp?are you trying to imply that we were systimaticaly trying to kill off those of japanese decent? if so this is news to me. dacow and ashwitz were concentration camps.( please excuse my poor spelling)
as for the aligation of trying to make the theft from the interned japanese legitimat. if you actualy read what i said was that it should not have been done. that was opertunisim plain and simple. there was and is no excuse for it.
as to why germans were not interned:
you would have to ask those who were in power at the time. the only thing i can think of is that they were not tied to their old country by a religion that claimed thier sovern was infact a deity. that is the best guess i can make as to why they were so frightened of them as to inter them.
the turning back of the ship full of jewish refugees was as i have stated a case of illegal immigration. we still turn away the bulk of people who try to come to canada in that manor, unless they can prove real harm of returning to thier homeland. there is a propper procedure to follow when wanting to immigrate that should be followed, ecept in the most dire of circumstances. unfortunately no one is infalible. sure there were those who were opposed to jews there unfortunately be those who are raceist everywhere. includeing those who love to scream discrimination whenever things don't go their way. you also must bear in mind that the nazi party was extreemly good at controlling news that got out of germany. add to that nazi sympisizers that would have been here and it realy clouds up things. as well we have to remember that the alies when liberateing the concentration cams were shocked, at what they found. you would not be shocked if you found what you expected to find. even thoes jews who did not leave germany had no idea how bad it would get. at that time period "second class" citisens was a perfectly normal thing. and no i am not condoneing that either. therefore there did not seem to be any urgency so why not follow propper procedures to emmigrate? in other words there was no sign of emmiment danger to them.
you also state "that they all hated jews". there is no evidence to support that. indeed if that was the case why would the people have:
a) liberated them at all instead of leaveing them to rot and continueing to destroy them?
b) felt so guilty at not realizeing what was going on that they stole isrial as a perminant homeland for them? therby causeing the problems we are faceing today.
yes we all know of the evil reidential schools. how can we possibly forget when it is shoved down our throtes at every turn? are they still in operation? no they are not. it is actualya shame that the perpitraters of this crime are dead otherwise they could be prosicuted. incidently even "the normal" schools were filled with brutality altho not as severe. you will understand this is why corpral punishment is not alowed in schools anymore. the abuse of it was widespread. they are even now finaly able to prosicute the cathlic priests that have been involved in sex crimes in schools. before they were just hidden and moved around by the catholic church leaders.
the fact that west coast comunitys were so severly depleated of their men due to the war is unfortunate. we should be gratefull that so many were willing to lay down lives in the cause of freedom.the fact about not being able to enter bars is all a part of the ignorant thinking of the time. as such it has been corrected or am i wrong? segrigation was something that a large majoraty of "minoritys" had to face again this was not right but it has been done away with hasn't it?
it is unfortunate that the laws were not compleately changed untill 1960. but they HAVE been changed. as for the fact of being raped and ignoerd at work that is also something that has been fixed fixed so well that it now only tends to take a statement from 1 person on sexual harrasment to ruin someone's life forever. just to prove this point a female at my workplace ruined 2 people's lives just because they made her look bad. when it came to light that she was the one guilty of sexual harrasment she could not be touched. the company on the other hand was MORE than willing to get rid of those that she had told sexual lies to and were just repeating the rumers she had started.
you are right unspeakable things were done but how can you hold those not responsible for these crimes? that is why there is a court systom. i understand that in times past it treated a lot of minoritys as second class citizens but again that has been fixed has it not?as for the death of the sibbling from my understanding tb was not something easly cured at the time. i don't know if we even have a reliable cure now, we do have ways to to try to prevent it. also bear in mind that untill we got decent health care things like inoculations would only have been available to those who could afford it.
the fact that vancover's east side has a majority of native prostituts is indeed unfortunate. i understand how hard it is to convince them to leave that nasty proffesion we have a prostitution problem here as well and i have spoken with a few of them they all have differant reasons, but one comment i have heard from them a lot is the fact that it is easy money why give it up for a poor paying job. low paying jobs are something i know all about. i find it hard to argue with them on that point.i am all to familiar with the fact of job equality myself. i am sick and tired of hearing that they can not hire me as they need more minoritys so they will not be in trubble for unfair hireing practices.
one thing i don't understand however.how is keeping your hatred alive helping to solve things that are already fixed or being fixed? with as much sympaty i have for the people that have been displaced wrongfuly throughout history what are we suppost to do? we have already seen what the good intentions have caused in isrial. as bad as the native populatin has been treated in the past there is nothing stopping them from moveing and/or trying to improve themselves thst everyone else doesn't have to deal with as well
Originally posted by DrHoracid
Here is pretty good proof that canada is no longer a "friend" to the US or Israel. Time to build a wall....................
Originally posted by AceOfBase
Originally posted by DrHoracid
Here is pretty good proof that canada is no longer a "friend" to the US or Israel. Time to build a wall....................
Dark Days. (The black band on ATS)
Originally posted by DrHoracid
Are you going to do this on every post there ACE. This thread is 4 pages long. Is it your intent to drive all opposing views off "your" ATS?
Add something or GO AWAY.
Originally posted by AceOfBase
Originally posted by DrHoracid
Are you going to do this on every post there ACE. This thread is 4 pages long. Is it your intent to drive all opposing views off "your" ATS?
Add something or GO AWAY.
Only on threads in which you deliberately post inflammatory comments to elicit a response.
Investigators with Halton Region police said that while the comments by Dr. Mohamed Elmasry "were described by many as [a] hate crime," they did not meet the legal definitio
"The comments were made during a free-flowing discussion between subject-matter experts who were encouraged to express their opinions openly on a topic of significant public interest."
Originally posted by ZeroDeep
DrHoracid,
You're obviously stiring the pot for your own purposes, nary have I come across a rational argument from you. You are either very ignorant, or pulling peoples legs on this site to see what sort of reaction you will get.
Canada, if anything, is years ahead of the American style democracy in certain regards.
You should read the link yourself before making haste with ignorant remarks.
Investigators with Halton Region police said that while the comments by Dr. Mohamed Elmasry "were described by many as [a] hate crime," they did not meet the legal definitio
"The comments were made during a free-flowing discussion between subject-matter experts who were encouraged to express their opinions openly on a topic of significant public interest."
Deep
Originally posted by ZeroDeep
Specific enough for the law to waver his remarks. Read a bit more carefully. The police force did not determine it as a hate crime.
Deep
Originally posted by centurion1211
Dr. Sometimes these people remind me of the black knight in that scene from Monty Python's Holy Grail movie. You know the one where King Arthur confronts the black knight and proceeds to cut off his arms and legs , one by one. At the end, the stump of a black knight is left still "standing" and screaming at Arthur to come back and fight like a man.
I think that this scene is a good metaphor for what you have done to these people in this thread (and many others). In other words, even though their arguments are logically dead, they still keep trying to fight back. Time to let them 'die' in peace on this one.
One for all and all for one!
Originally posted by cargo
Get yourself into congress and then your boohoo posts might take on some relevance.
Originally posted by centurion1211
Seriously, if Canada continues its open door policy to terrorists, you might well be surprised - and wrong.