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originally posted by: okrian
originally posted by: ketsuko
originally posted by: Stormdancer777
wont happen,they will need money due to the fires
They'll need water too, and all of that comes from states farther east.
California's water comes from California. Less hype. More facts.
Where does my water come from?
The watersheds that supply drinking water to 80% of California’s resident cover almost 157 million acres and span 8 states (Figure 1). These watersheds drain lands that include highly protected areas (e.g., wilderness areas) and those that have been developed (e.g., downtown Sacramento). From the map, it is clear that the Sierra Nevada mountains are an important source of water for the state of California, providing snowmelt for the many lakes and rivers that drain into the Sacramento and San Joaquin rivers. These rivers, in turn, supply water to the Sacramento-San Joaquin Delta, a water source that serves roughly 25 million Californians via the State Water Project. In addition, most southern California cities obtain some of their drinking water from the Colorado River, which originates in the mountains of Wyoming and Colorado, and then passes through and drains portions of Utah, New Mexico, Arizona, and Nevada until it reaches Lake Havasu, on the border between Arizona and California. There, it is diverted into the Metropolitan Water District’s Colorado River Aqueduct which carries the water 242 miles to southern California.
originally posted by: The2Billies
Buried at the end of in this story is the idea that Democrats have said might have to be their last resort end game if Trump wins the election. www.nytimes.com...=https://t.co/kDEzgI0ejl
In that scenario, California, Oregon, and Washington then threatened to secede from the United States if Mr. Trump took office as planned. The House named Mr. Biden president; the Senate and White House stuck with Mr. Trump. At that point in the scenario, the nation stopped looking to the media for cues, and waited to see what the military would do.
This strategy can be found at the end of the article. Democrats, former (i.e. Obama) government officials, along with anti-Trump Republicans, apparently war gamed, Transition Integrity Project, in which they came to this conclusion. www.bostonglobe.com... The narrative has already begun with Biden saying Trump plans to steal the election.
Former vice president Joe Biden, the presumptive Democratic nominee, has taken to issuing foreboding warnings of his own. “This president is going to try to indirectly steal the election by arguing that mail-in ballots don’t work — they’re not real, they’re not fair,” he said at a fund-raiser on Thursday night.
With Hillary openly telling Biden not to concede the election for any reason, we now know the real reason. The Democrats plan to refuse to accept the election results if Trump wins and begin a civil war.
It is frightening that there have been "war games" by top government officials planning for a civil war if Trump should win the election. Obviously, no matter the outcome liberals/leftists/and Democrats plan to not accept the results and to set fire to their already ongoing war against government (police) in the nations cities to the entire country.
originally posted by: Iscool
a reply to: The2Billies
Never happen...They couldn't survive without the Federal Gov't...They would be flooded with illegal immigrants with no way to support them...
originally posted by: subfab
a reply to: The2Billies
i live in Oregon.
it would be foolish to separate from the U.S.
not sure what to make of all this. i hope this is all just gibberish talk from our political leaders.
originally posted by: Blue_Jay33
If that really did happen it would be an American second civil war, if the California national guard and it's officers refuse to fight against federal troops it would be over before it began. And then the entire leadership of all of the political Californians that supported this from senators to congress to governors to the state level senate would be charged with treason and go to jail. Yup if separation fails jail time for the leaders of that.
Besides Northern California that votes red would be fighting against it to.