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I don't think it's an anchor. You can see other holes on the same video, just monents before, on the right side.
If you are interested, here is a link about this area.
www.njskylands.com...
originally posted by: scrounger
a reply to: anonentity
you may have a point
i remember as a child king tut artifacts coming to the museum in chicago il
one thing that still sticks in my mind today was the head piece/ mask .
not only the sheer perfection in the work but the most striking (also spooky) detail was in the glass eyes of the mask
the craftsmanship was overshadowed in my mind by the tiny but significant detail of VEINS in the eyes.
not just lines but what one would expect to see in a real eyeball.
what society from that far in the past had the craftsmanship but also the attention to detail to put that in and you swear you looking at an expensive glass eye of today.
scrounger
originally posted by: anonentity
a reply to: Harte
If you look at that core number seven, it is not just showing a spiral cutting technique, it is also showing what is commonly in engineering circles called a thread,with a pitch of one hundredth of an inch, asking why? might open a can of worms but it is what it is.
Its not commonly known that a piece of flat iron was found blocking the so called air shaft on the GP, make of it what you will.
originally posted by: jeep3r
a reply to: Harte
Of course, the question remains: where's the rest of that alleged "technological civilization" and why do we not find any related artifacts in the archaeological record? Well, that's another discussion altogether I guess.
No, it was actually quite early on in his career. Starts at 7:08:
originally posted by: jeep3r
a reply to: Harte
Maybe ironically or jokingly he did admit that after all those years of being trolled by mainstream egyptologists.
originally posted by: jeep3rA lot has been said and written about drill core #7, but IMO if it turns out that we cannot replicate the fine details and charactersitics of those striations, then we need to acknowledge that we don't know how it was done.
originally posted by: scrounger
originally posted by: jeep3r
a reply to: Harte
Of course, the question remains: where's the rest of that alleged "technological civilization" and why do we not find any related artifacts in the archaeological record? Well, that's another discussion altogether I guess.
If you want an answer just look at the series "life after people" from the history channel
it shows how if we just "disappeared" how our "advance technology" would within a hundred to thousand (well less than the time passing from egypt when this happened) years (give or take) would also be gone with little or no trace.
scrounger
originally posted by: scrounger
a reply to: Harte
first i can see you NEVER saw or looked up any episodes of the series.
if you did you would have seen that was explained what would (depending on area) happened in your given scenario.
you have earthquakes, natural shifts in the soil, water, rain , animals and other natural things that will alter and maybe even destroy that reinforced concrete.. along with the very reinforcing rods are made of STEEL that can and does rust away.. especially after a "thousand years"
i love your example of the "huts" (btw wish you would have included a link so as to look at ALL THE EVIDENCE )
first they find "evidence" of huts... not the actual thing
they also are making an educated guess/assumption of what they were... along with do they know what they were used for if they were "huts"?
no...
now lets look at one "reinforced concrete" structure that in in the US . the old atlas missile silos...
they were built tough . but in the last oh 50 years or so due to lack of regular maintenance are filling with water, metal rusting away and becoming quite unstable...
within a thousand years they would be just a pile of rubble in the ground and disintegrating to nothing.
there are alot of other examples all over the world of similar situation....
but again this was all discussed (note even this has some supposition and estimation ) in the series I stated.
so it is not inconceivable that an "advanced" civilization could have any evidence of its existence wiped away within a hundred , thousand or several thousand years...
scrounger
originally posted by: Harte
originally posted by: scrounger
a reply to: Harte
It's beyond absurd to think that a quarter of a cubic mile of concrete will turn into soil.
sigh... it wont turn into dirt but can be crushed, broken and make it not resemble what it origionally was. it happens all the time. along with how many years before it was discovered for this to happen?
It would seem that you have decided not to even consider that we locate even just soil disturbances from thousands of years ago today. They are obvious in any exploratory trench. A blind man could see them. Yet you insist nobody could possibly notice the remains of a gigantic concrete formation buried in the Earth.
first your "blind man" comment is pure emotional drivel... try again.. but beyond that again it is not in form (depending on the time frame) it origionally was.. so you would not know exactly what it was and you would be speculatiing.. look at the biminy wall for example . it is huge and we still today cant agree what it is or is not..
FYI, we have recovered spears older than 50,000 years, and they are made of wood.
um those spears are FEW in number and were in a situation that permitted them to be PRESERVED.. a specific set of actions that enabled that to happen.. you notice in the USA we only find arrowheads on a regular basis from the native indians and that is only a few hundred years old... i see looking at the TOTAL PICTURE is not your strong point
And aluminum doesn't rust.
no but it corrodes , oxidizes, and falls apart. it depends on the makeup but it happens.. that is why alot of WWII aircraft are falling apart when found.. again not dealing in facts.
And steel rusting still leaves evidence of steel.
yes it does.. presuming it hasnt rusted to point of being mixed in with the surounding soil that it is beyond recognition. presuming it retains its shape and presuming you know what that shape is to identify it. might i point out that soon the titanic is gonna rust away to NOTHING? smh
And glass doesn't crumble away.
sigh.. AGAIN CONTEXT.. yes it can survive longer. but if its broken into many pieces over time can you say what it was? you got glass but we have no idea what it was.. a bowl, a camera lens, the death star lazer.. common guy your getting repeatative
And mines don't disappear.
SERIOUSLY ? you have a mine that has fallen in on itself.. you have some rust hunks of metal and minerals in the area . how did they accomplish their task? what tech did they use? btw what does that have to do with structures and materials that desintegrate over time?
Gravel beds that form the base of most roads will still be there hundreds of thousands of years from now.
that is a an assumption... lets say with you found a trail of gravel . was that a road, highway, or just a trail by nature? in a thousand years how would you know.. btw in a "hundreds of thousans of years" how can you say it is even in tact to determine it was a road?
There are landing craft left on the Moon.
ENOUGH ALREADY.. your ignorance of different enviroment and enviromental factors is ASTOUNDING but growing tiresome. the moon is NOT THE EARTH.. try comparing apples to apples instead of this apples to bowling balls smh
I asked if you needed examples. You didn't say. I can only infer that you don't want examples because you want (for some odd reason) to believe in an overhyped storyline from a television show.
a "tv show" that used SCIENTIFIC principles, scientific facts and examples pulled from REAL LIFE.. along with they even admitted some of this is estimated with the timeline could be longer or shorter.. they used "experts" in different fields . lots of explination you can look up for yourself and REAL WORLD events that already have happened. what have you shown.
Harte
I could continue to poke holes in your arguments , give other examples of things found that we still dont know what they are or how they work, and structures that by todays knowledge we either cant do or do without modern tools.
but as the OP pointed out we still dont know how they made the cuts/holes with the tech we (at this point) knew they had.
scrounger
edit on 12-9-2020 by scrounger because: (no reason given)
originally posted by: Harte
No, it was actually quite early on in his career. Starts at 7:08:
And then I suppose you think that, once we admit we don't know, then we'll have to also admit that we don't know what those figures in their art are doing with those tube drills and borers, since we admit they didn't actually do it that way?
I think that you, not we, have something to admit.