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Critical race theory thread #2. Why it’s a cult and what they want -> socialism.

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posted on Sep, 7 2020 @ 05:42 PM
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originally posted by: alldaylong
a reply to: Lumenari




I'm Cherokee


I stopped reading their.

There is always someone who comes out with this load of bollocks.

Cherokee my arse.


An Englishman that doesn't know English
THERE




posted on Sep, 7 2020 @ 05:43 PM
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originally posted by: Arizonaguy

originally posted by: alldaylong
a reply to: Lumenari




I'm Cherokee


I stopped reading their.

There is always someone who comes out with this load of bollocks.

Cherokee my arse.


An Englishman that doesn't know English
THERE


You are quite correct. It's late here, and i am off to bed.



posted on Sep, 7 2020 @ 05:43 PM
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originally posted by: alldaylong
a reply to: Lumenari




I'm Cherokee


I stopped reading their.

There is always someone who comes out with this load of bollocks.

Cherokee my arse.


You meant to type "I stopped reading THERE."

My CDIB card says I am Cherokee...

We speak Cherokee at home.

I'm assuming you speak Russian at your house, since your English sucks.

You didn't stop reading at "I'm Cherokee", by the way.

We all know that.

You read my entire post, realized that there was really no way forward for you as far as debate goes, tucked your tail between your legs and left.

But you are correct that it is time to stop our conversation...

Your personal level of denial is rather breathtaking.

Have a nice day!




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posted on Sep, 7 2020 @ 05:47 PM
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a reply to: Lumenari

Right on Lumenari!



posted on Sep, 7 2020 @ 05:57 PM
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a reply to: Lumenari

Perfect! I wonder what part of his/her stereotype you don’t fit🤔




posted on Sep, 7 2020 @ 06:00 PM
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a reply to: Paul911GT3

Yeah, hands down the most racist stuff I've ever seen was when I was in the UAE for business. I have also seen it in a few Asian countries I've been to, however it's not as in your face as it was in the UAE.

Now as a white guy I didn't have racism directed at me, but at a colleague of mine from India who was also working on this project with me. We're working with a controls manufacturer that is present in most oil refineries, so we're there to do a cyber security assessment. When we first arrive on site we get a 1 week visitors badge, but we've got 3 more months to go there, so they are processing a 3 month badge for us that would be ready the second week.

We show up Sunday AM and the 3 month badges have been printed with the wrong dates on them, the guard was apologetic and said he would have new ones printed up ready for that afternoon. In the meantime he sticks his head out of the office and tells the guys at the gate to let us through because we had been cleared. About 45 minutes later we're in the office and getting started on the days work, and a guy in a uniform comes in asking if we have passes on us, we of course do not. In a very no nonsense tone he tells us to go back to the gate, so we head that way.

Maybe a 10 minute walk to the gate and by the time we get there, there has to be 15 people running around like the building is on fire, trying to figure out how we got through security without a pass. Luckily for us the guy that let us in was still there and he spoke up. We were there for 3 more months and never saw that guy again. We're told to sit on one of the sofa's in the office and wait.

20 minutes go by and the guy in the uniform shows up, turns out he's the head of security for the site. He comes over to us and turns to me, and in probably the most conciliatory tones possible he's apologizing to me for the misunderstanding. No big deal to me and I understand why they reacted the way they did. He then turns to my colleague and you can see a transformation happen, from nice apologetic Arab man, to the type of guy you see yelling death to America on the TV. He proceeds to threaten the life of my colleague and his family (who live in the UAE), berating him for being a drag on their society, and various other insults.

We're told to wait longer while they print out a day pass for us as the guy walks off. He comes back with the passes and proceeds to hand mine over and we get into a discussion about how he went to the University of Oregon, and how much he misses some things about being in the states. He turns to my colleague again and the same demeanor shift goes up, my colleague is once again threatened several times as well as insulted.

We leave the guard office and my colleague turns to me and says "And you think they don't like white American's here? No, they don't like me here."

If that was a one-off I could see chalking it up to a jackass with a bit more power than he should have, but it wasn't.

A couple of months later I'm with my boss at our local contacts office talking about staffing some of our upcoming projects. This man, who to me seemed quite polite based on the times I had met him, says this; "I don't know how else to say this, but we want more people who look like Matt and Jeff (names changed), and less who look like Rakesh (also changed)." This is of course against our company policy, but also of course, hands are shaken and contracts signed. I brought this up to HR when back in the states and nothing happened, big part of why I left that job.

Finally, at the end of my 6 months there working it's time to fly home. I go to the airport in Abu Dhabi and am waiting in a line probably 50 people deep. There's one woman checking people in and several closed counters as it's 6 am. I wait maybe 2 minutes, a door behind the desks opens and a lady comes out to start checking more people in, or so I think. The new lady sees me glance in that direction and waves me over, now of course seeing that there's a new open line others in line start to drift that way as well. She proceeds to yell at them and single me out. My baggage is checked, I have my ticket, and she gives me directions to my gate...and then proceeds to shut her workstation down and go back into the back room.

Now this is only 3 examples of the outright racism I experienced there, there are quite a few others. I also have several stories about some not quite as overt racism experienced in a few Asian countries.

I'm from the south, born in Charleston as a matter of fact, and have lived most of my life in the south, with the exception of overseas while my parents were in the military. I was also born in the 80's, so after a lot of the racial tensions of the 60's. I had never in my entire life seen anything like this until I was an adult and left the US for business, not in any single 1k person town in Alabama, Mississippi, South Carolina, Georgia, etc. I won't say we don't have a race issue in this country as we clearly do, but I will say that until you've seen it in other countries, you don't quite have the same appreciation for how much less racist we are here.



posted on Sep, 7 2020 @ 06:39 PM
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a reply to: Hypntick

When the Muslims conquered India, they were absolutely brutal to the Hindu population ... worse in many ways than they had been to Christians and Jews they conquered, and they weren't at all nice to them.



posted on Sep, 7 2020 @ 07:39 PM
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a reply to: ketsuko

Not just those from India either, really anyone not Arab or white was treated pretty damn poorly there. Now as it came to treatment of me, a very warm and welcoming people, then again I'm an educated white guy from the US.

I was told I would experience racism while in Japan, and I did see a few places that said "Japanese only". Now that's a little nationalistic, but at the end of the day, it's not my country so not my business. When you're at 98.1% of any race, you could post a sign that said "no tourists" and probably achieve the same thing. I didn't feel it as racism or discrimination however, it wasn't in your face, and thinking about it, it was probably more about language differences than anything else.

My colleagues and I did get directed to a foreigner bar though, which was a little off-putting, then again most of my colleagues were there to just drink. None of them voiced any issues with the situation, I just wanted something that I couldn't get back home in any bar in any town in the states.



posted on Sep, 7 2020 @ 08:05 PM
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originally posted by: NorthOfStuff
a reply to: Lumenari

Perfect! I wonder what part of his/her stereotype you don’t fit🤔



What probably lit his sticks on fire is this part of me...



I was nice and didn't mention my sexual preference.

It might have shattered his little preconceived notions of what a conservative is.




posted on Sep, 7 2020 @ 08:28 PM
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This one is pretty "shocking" for someone who thinks we're all nothing but racists too.
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posted on Sep, 7 2020 @ 10:15 PM
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a reply to: alldaylong
Can you not read? I’m talking about from 1970 to the present. Yes there were things that happened to native Americans hundreds of years ago by American liberals ( liberals like you ) from the Democratic Party. Today any Native American can escape as I did and as my Air Force friend who was a Native American from Bisbee Arizona who now owns several car dealerships.

I’ll debate you on native Americans you white liberal poc. Back then Native Americans claimed lands through wars over each other before Europeans got here. So this tribes land was that tribes land before the conquest of this tribe. Native Americans also had slaves of other tribes until Europeans came along and stabilized conquests. So stay on your side of the pond and don’t spit on any Indians or Muslims near your house.
Another example of a guy who read a comic book on a topic and now thinks he’s an expert on another part of the world he’s never been to. I’ll be happy to debate you any time any place .

By the way the president who inflicted the most hate on Native Americans was Andrew Jackson the FOUNDER of the Democratic Party. Notice a THEME HERE?? Liberals doling out more hate.

Please also state your credentials on the subject before putting more of your feet in your mouth
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quoting websites stupid liberal websites doesn’t work. Yes there were some bad things that happened but they weren’t in communes looking to smoke weed with Bernie Sanders either. They were as savage as the American army. Some worked with the Army in the destruction of their enemy tribes. So don’t sit there and tell us that they were flower children wiped off the face of the planet by Europeans.
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posted on Sep, 7 2020 @ 10:25 PM
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And here’s another point. What’s the most successful group in today’s America? Indian immigrants. Who’s the second most successful group in America? Asian immigrants. So how does a group put in internment camps in WWII while black Americans weren’t become so successful in a racist America? No answer? I didn’t think so.
Nobody cares enough about you in today’s America to stand in your way and keep you from being successful. Ain’t going to happen. If you want to work in this country no matter the race ( as opposed to the UK) you’re going to be a success. Period.
Please state facts if you’re going to debate this and provide specifics even though you won’t be able to. Cubans Mexicans, Blacks or even weak minded UK liberals can be successful IF they work for it. There is no systemic racism in this country period. UNLESS you want to be a liberal activist then you’ll have an issue if you’re not the right race.
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posted on Sep, 7 2020 @ 10:32 PM
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a reply to: Paul911GT3

The hell is wrong with you?
Don't you realize it's much easier to cry racism from across the room than it is to sift through decades, centuries, even millennia of complicated relationships between different groups of people that led us to where we are now?


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posted on Sep, 7 2020 @ 10:37 PM
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a reply to: Hypntick
Nice post thanks. As much time as Ive spent in the Deep South it’s an amazing welcoming place.
I can’t believe the ignorance of some white liberal from the UK can lecture us on our own country



posted on Sep, 7 2020 @ 10:39 PM
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a reply to: Arizonaguy
You’re right. I guess white liberals from the UK who aren’t 30 are much smarter than us who’ve lived it here in our own country.
They know more than us American minorities on racism.
What was I thinking.


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posted on Sep, 7 2020 @ 10:40 PM
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Wah Wah you dont think the same as me so you're secret racists..... cool argument bro.
a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin




posted on Sep, 7 2020 @ 10:44 PM
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a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin
Your so full of ignorance and hate you’re not even worth debating . I’m glad you have 6 decades of the American experience to tell us we don’t know what we’re talking about.


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posted on Sep, 7 2020 @ 11:00 PM
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a reply to: KansasGirl


Boy, that business with the papers being published- I am not surprised at all. I would really love to read those papers and the whole story around those- do you have any info on which journals published them?


From Wikipedia:


In 2017, Boghossian and Lindsay published a hoax paper titled "The Conceptual Penis as a Social Construct".[17] The paper, which the authors said was intentionally absurd and written in a way that imitated the style of "poststructuralist discursive gender theory", argued that the penis should be seen "not as an anatomical organ but as a social construct isomorphic to performative toxic masculinity."[17][18] Boghossian and Lindsay initially submitted the paper to Norma, where it was rejected.[19][20] They later submitted the paper to Cogent Social Sciences, an open access journal which has been criticized as a pay-to-publish operation.[17] The authors later revealed the hoax in Skeptic magazine. Boghossian and Lindsay stated that they intended to demonstrate that "gender studies is crippled academically by an overriding almost-religious belief that maleness is the root of all evil", and also to highlight problems with the review processes of open-access journals.
...
In December 2018, Portland State University ruled that Boghossian had "violated ethical guidelines on human-subjects research". Boghossian's actions showed "a lack of academic integrity, questionable ethical behavior, and employee breach of rules." Consequently, he was banned from doing research until he had "completed training and could demonstrate that he understood how to protect the rights of human subjects.” [37]


The actual paper:

The conceptual penis as a social construct



posted on Sep, 7 2020 @ 11:10 PM
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a reply to: Paul911GT3

What an interesting read.
Thanks for sharing.

Thanks for clarifying who in this
day and age, The Haters really are.

S&F



posted on Sep, 7 2020 @ 11:10 PM
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Oh and one more history lesson for my highly educated liberals from the UK, the KKK was the military arm of the Democratic Party after our civil war. The KKK killed 3000 blacks and 1000 white conservatives after the civil war. We actually had several Black congressmen that were wiped out by the Democrats.
Nothing has changed today except the race that the Democrat liberals hate. Our liberals have always been racists. Woodrow Wilson showed the Birth of a Nation in the White House to rejuvenate the KKK. Democrats voted against every civil rights legislation all the way to 1964 when LBJ begrudgingly signed the civil rights bill of 1964. After LBJ signed the act he said “ we’ll have n**gers voting for us for 200 years”
Democrats voted against the 13th, 14th, and 15th amendments enforcing their racist liberal roots. So keep on defending the liberal party my UK liberal friends.
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