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BLM and Antifa members who riot are terrorists!

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posted on Sep, 7 2020 @ 01:52 PM
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a reply to: Stevenmonet

Then how should the U.S. populace respond to state sponsored terrorism, as is routinely committed by the Trump administration; which includes there destruction of our environment and our own democratic ideals in whole?




posted on Sep, 7 2020 @ 01:54 PM
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a reply to: KansasGirl

Oh it's correct, he might have some cnn edited # to use.. We all know what you are trying to do, it won't work.. Come loot in this town please... sigh...
people are done with the leftist bs, very tiresome...



posted on Sep, 7 2020 @ 02:09 PM
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Change your mind, no way I agree with you all the way


They are goofy little terrorists. Arsonists, killers, thieves, thugs and whatever other pejoratives you can think to apply to them.

I am not happy wasting perfectly good oxygen keeping them alive.



posted on Sep, 7 2020 @ 02:11 PM
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a reply to: Erno86

Hah

None of that's true. You worry about the environment, go deal with your pals in red communist china. We can protect our environment too, where possible.


our own democratic ideals in whole


That is meaningless. The only "democratic ideal" is ensuring the people and government are prevented from infringing on the Constitutional rights of others - whether by force or by vote.
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posted on Sep, 7 2020 @ 02:12 PM
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a reply to: slatesteam

I agree that the media is highly culpable in all of this, but if it weren't for the mindless mobs of political/social justice warriors running arround burning ish while screaming death to america on our streets and demanding we disband the police and pay reparations for slavery I wouldn't have to write such an obvious truth.

Fact I'm 1st gen. german american and 2nd gen. Italian american. Slavery was long dead before my ancestors arrived on this soil. Anyone alive today never felt a slavers whip, so who is to say who owes who what?

You cant retroactively declare something illegal then award damages accordingly now can you?

The fact is the same with the drug war in my opinion.

Plants like weed and shrooms opium and coc aine all come naturally from the earth and if used in moderation can have many desirable and healing effects, but as a group we as a nation retroactively outlawed them. Once again the laws were on the books before I was born, but I haven't heard of pro legalization riots. Have you? Nope instead myself and many like me have peacefully pooled our political will into state action. No riots and yet a majority of states have access to the devils weed again. Wow.

Is the drug war solved? No but compared to the draconian mandatory minimums of the tolarant left meant to target those super criminals remember those? Yep! In most states they are gone, and we are seeing judicial, legislative and criminal reform now in the drug war at a far more rapid pace than I ever expected to see in my lifetime.

You can say we don't all agree on everything like the drug war racism, or you name xyz social political issue. You can even say the war on terrorism is so murkey we cant use it to call every government detractor a terrorist because it would be a slippery slope, and I would agree.

What we are talking about here is two specific groups that no matter how loosely coordinated or affiliated they may be, are actively engaged in a violent coercive political/social campaign across the country.

Most decent Americans feel it is wrong. Deep down we despise coersion. That is why we have a duly elected constitutional government of limited scope and authority that we have granted a monopoly on forcefull coersion.

When someone of authority violates their the constitutional scope or limit when exercising that authority we call it tyranny, but when that monopoly is violated by any third party we have decided ever since 9/11/2001 that it was defined as terrorism. We even declared war on it and took that war global.

Terrorist making demands and flying planes into buildings when we dont cow tail to their demands is no different than terrosists burning down cities until we cow tail to their demands.

What definition of terrorism will make you feel free to peacfully oppose the government when you feel called to do so, while also guaranteeing that when people seek to hold our cities or nation hostage to violence until we cow tail to their political or social demands that they are prosecuted in a uniform and judicous manner so as to ensure the rights of our citizens to life and liberty?

(28 CFR seemed pretty clear to all of us until 2020 when all of the sudden Americans were forced to watch terrorist run wild on our streets while the media calls it peaceful protests and BLM donations are funneled directly into the democratic national comitee all while Democrat mayors and city councils give in to the terrorist demands to the point of openly harbouring and supporting open insurrectionsts occupying public and private property.

Chaz was just a summer of love festival with armed private security remember?

According to the terrorists and their cohorts
If you dont join the terrorists you are a rascist.

If you defend yourself or property you are a violent far right extremeist.

And if you call what they are doing by it's legal definition, you are a fascist big government fool walking down the slippery slope to a FEMA camp once the dems gain the executive branch.

I say bs. I call it like I see it, and judging by the responses to this thread I'm far from being in the minority.



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posted on Sep, 7 2020 @ 02:24 PM
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a reply to: Erno86

See where you started there. What about? What about it?

If trump is guilty does that make blm and antifa innocent of the same crime? Nope!

Still, present your evidence and make your argument. As i've stated earlier in this thread what aboutism is not an argument at all it is intelectual fraud void of any actual argument, this is the mud so go ahead and amaze us all with your mental acuity.

The problem you will have is the definition of terrorism clearly states "unlawfull use of force", and since president trump is constitutionally responsible for ensuring the laws of the land are administered, you will need to prove to me that any force his administration exorcises exceeds the scope of the exeuctive office's constitutional mandate.

That is one steep hill to climb. In fact the dems failed to do just that by claiming trump abused his authority on the Ukraine call. That argument failed to pass the echo chamber test before leaving the house with bipartisan opposition only to fail in the Senate to.....bipartisan opposition.

Echo chambers typically dont produce fruit when faced the brute force of reality.
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posted on Sep, 7 2020 @ 02:35 PM
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a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

Potayto, potahto. Define it however you want but regardless of what label you want to slap on these a-holes, they’re eff’n terrorist, terrorizing citizens. The rioting, destruction and looting is coming from the left NOT the right FFS. Maybe if you lived here you could pull your own head out of the sand long enough to see it firsthand for yourself but for now you just continue to armchair it as you are.👍🙄


What is it with some of you limey, lushy, loady’s and all your rhetorical BS?



posted on Sep, 7 2020 @ 02:47 PM
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originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin

originally posted by: jtma508
I just want to be sure I'm clear.... So, BLM and Antifa members who riot are terrorists. But the Proud Boys and all the other white supremacist groups who riot are not? And Trump supporters who drive into protesters and spray bear repellent and fire paint balls at them are not? Just checking.


Thats exactly my point.

Notice the partisanship, "Blue team is being bad....Red Team good...becasue Red Team is my team"

Both sides need to get their heads out of the sand and acknowledge that both sides are rioting scum.


Red Team ain't my team fundamentally, but god dammit, they're being better people by far and wide here. They aren't burning down towns, stealing everything not nailed down (then prying up what is) They aren't disrupting diners, stealing kids' hats right off their heads, beating old people & leaving them to die on the streets, stalking people & killing them, driving up to people and popping them off out of nowhere.

What kind of screwed up reject Alternate Universe do you live in where people NOT doing that every. single. day are the bad ones?? You ain't right in the head, chap.



posted on Sep, 7 2020 @ 03:25 PM
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a reply to: Stevenmonet

I think the population as a whole agree with you. I don't want to change your mind.



posted on Sep, 7 2020 @ 04:15 PM
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a reply to: Stevenmonet

re: “social justice warriors”

I’d like us to start referring to them as “the social justice mafia,” which is how one of our brilliant members referred to them the other day. I’ll go look to make sure I get their handle right and be back to post the credit. Anyway, social justice mafia is a much more accurate description.



posted on Sep, 7 2020 @ 04:17 PM
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originally posted by: Nyiah

originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin

originally posted by: jtma508
I just want to be sure I'm clear.... So, BLM and Antifa members who riot are terrorists. But the Proud Boys and all the other white supremacist groups who riot are not? And Trump supporters who drive into protesters and spray bear repellent and fire paint balls at them are not? Just checking.


Thats exactly my point.

Notice the partisanship, "Blue team is being bad....Red Team good...becasue Red Team is my team"

Both sides need to get their heads out of the sand and acknowledge that both sides are rioting scum.


Red Team ain't my team fundamentally, but god dammit, they're being better people by far and wide here. They aren't burning down towns, stealing everything not nailed down (then prying up what is) They aren't disrupting diners, stealing kids' hats right off their heads, beating old people & leaving them to die on the streets, stalking people & killing them, driving up to people and popping them off out of nowhere.

What kind of screwed up reject Alternate Universe do you live in where people NOT doing that every. single. day are the bad ones?? You ain't right in the head, chap.


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Amen, sister.



posted on Sep, 7 2020 @ 04:50 PM
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Some eye popping maps !!!


Protests Maps



posted on Sep, 7 2020 @ 05:37 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen

I would love to see that same map ovrelayed with the 2016 election results by district map.



posted on Sep, 7 2020 @ 05:51 PM
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a reply to: Nyiah

Amen to that

There is no real choice anymore. Anybody who isn't represented by angry socialist mobs is stuck with the party of (nose hold) hard core conservatives

Folks who are fiscally conservative and don't give a hoot about the rest (plus or minus a few niche issues) have no real choice, so we have to go with the lesser of two evils

As you put it much more eloquently than I'd ever hope to...one party is now trying to destroy this country while the other wants to preserve it



posted on Sep, 7 2020 @ 05:52 PM
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a reply to: KansasGirl

Great one


I will have to borrow this as well


Thanks KS girl



posted on Sep, 7 2020 @ 09:56 PM
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a reply to: Stevenmonet

The definition applies to all the armed white nationalists as well; so your point?



posted on Sep, 7 2020 @ 10:03 PM
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a reply to: Stevenmonet

These military heroes could have come back and mowed these Antifa terrorists down. But they chose to leave and not go back.

A powerful personal account: www.americanpartisan.org...



posted on Sep, 7 2020 @ 10:38 PM
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a reply to: Arnie123

It`s not just this thread, i did not mean it that way as emotional contagion is like universal phenomenon and so it happens everywhere.

I think i am wrong dude try to explain it distinctly, or i find it not so easy.

There are studys about it, and google search gives a lot pages..

Transmission of fear is one example, look how the coronavirus get people in to fear.

With BLM and Antifa groups, most likely people who got involved in to those, are getting model about thinking, influence from others and it then can amplify their fear, anger etc


'Fear is the path to the dark side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering.'




posted on Sep, 8 2020 @ 08:43 AM
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a reply to: FyreByrd

What about the armed white nationalists?

Are you actually going to provide an argument?

Tell you what I'll give you the definition of terrorism again, and ask you to back up your claim with evidence.
Terrorism is defined in the Code of Federal Regulations as “the unlawful use of force and violence against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a government, the civilian population, or any segment thereof, in furtherance of political or social objectives” (28 C.F.R.





posted on Sep, 8 2020 @ 01:13 PM
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originally posted by: FyreByrd
a reply to: Stevenmonet

The definition applies to all the armed white nationalists as well; so your point?



I wouldn't....

I tried to explain this but its actually just partisan BS and not the interesting debate on definitions of terrorism that it appeared to be at first.




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