Are Clowns Demonic?

a reply to: mysterioustranger

Subject 2 said "do not come in"

That worked for him.
I don't know what possessed him to open the door.
Oh, that's right, berserker rage.

I apologize but this is very funny for me. I am actually embarrassed for you.

Listen closely.....a demonolgist does NOT summon demons, jinn, fallen angels, etc....

A demonologist studies demons, jinn, everything walking and hiding in the dark.

A demologist is first step in identifying manifestations, obsessions, and possessions....

A demonlogist MUST have spiritual discernment.

You want to know about demonology? Don't ask a clown.....ask a demonlogist.


a reply to: pthena

We demonlogist are taught how to prevent, fight, and attack when necessary dark forces.

We are taught by exorcist,. The Vatican offers free courses on demonology, even for lay people.

Bishops assign exorcists, exorcist find and train those who want to serve as demonlogist, etc....

Too much to list...

a reply to: DeathSlayer

What you may not know....approved exorcisms require a demonlogist.



a reply to: DeathSlayer

originally posted by: pthena
a reply to: mysterioustranger

Subject 2 said "do not come in"

That worked for him.
I don't know what possessed him to open the door.
Oh, that's right, berserker rage.

A 5th-generation "sensitive", I pick up on things everywhere. Antique stores sometimes make me move away from certain things...and people.

If you're even a non-believer in higher powers...just wave your hand and say something like that...the force and positive command does work everytime.

Oh! And if it's a demon disguised as an angel...if it's really is some angel? They won't mind you casting off!!

Peace

a reply to: DeathSlayer

What you may not know....approved exorcisms require a demonlogist.

That would make sense. Summon a demon out of someone. Not a hard concept.

That seems quite a risky job, how to determine a person's own daemon from a foreign unnatural daemon.

The Golden Compass by Philip Pullman describes "intercision" as separating a person's own daemon from the person. The results to children were not good, not good at all.

a reply to: mysterioustranger

just wave your hand and say something like that...the force and positive command does work everytime.

Yes. I agree.

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I thought of what it would be like for Subject 2 to attend a BA(berserk anonymous) meeting.

After listening to several people get up and say, "Hi, I'm ____ and I am a berserk. I was doing dishes when a glass broke, and I cut my hand, I felt the red rage building ... then I blacked out. Next thing I knew, I was sitting in the corner of my now completely destroyed kitchen.

Person after person "...then I blacked out ..."

Subject 2 then gets up and says "Hi, I'm Subject 2, and I am a berserk. I have gone six years without the red rage taking me. The last time ... I did this...saw that...watched the ___ cowering..."

Then some other BA would say, "wait a minute. When did you black out? I didn't hear you say 'black out'. You're no berserk. Berserks black out. You're a fraud."

The whole group would then grab him and try to drag him out into the street. And then the red rage would rise ...

He better not go to a Berserk Anonymous meeting, for their safety.

No. They are cartoons for people who can’t read.

The face paint is the deaf for those who cannot read... they can see what is around the corner. It is an exaggeration to have “red cheeks”?but most plague victims did.

The masses were illiterate and cartoons/pictures were the only way to tell people to stay away.

Clowns are only evil because they resemble plague victims.

a reply to: pthena

the idea of a clown to me is better represented by the jester or the mere existence of such a character. I like to interpret the jester as the kind of expressionist that uses their behavior to meander through life as a liar.. or maybe the part of human nature that always looks out for itself; survival of the individual. The jester/clown exists, and I guess it's the same story of that of the devil or satan.

So, damn it, yes, I guess you got me. Clowns are demonic, but they seem more mentally inept and hasty; that's why I like jesters better.

If you're taking this outside of the realm of literary fantasies and more of a religious canon though then I probably won't talk to you unless you have actually met THE satan.

Stories and comparisons are a great way as a warning to what you might be dealt behaviorally through your experience as a human being though

a reply to: akiros

If you're taking this outside of the realm of literary fantasies and more of a religious canon though then I probably won't talk to you unless you have actually met THE satan.

I really wouldn't attempt to make a canon out of this.
Even in the story there was no physical evidence of a material being; no scratch marks on the stairs although there should have been based on the sound heard. No divots in the lawn from claws.

It depends on just how close a delusion can be to actual consensual reality. The only thing detected by two senses simultaneously was the rattling of the door knob; sight and sound. The evidence is slim.

Mostly, I was aiming to show language and culture shift such as in this post
www.abovetopsecret.com.... Sort of defang the word demon itself.

Demonic manifestations, obssessions and possessions are very very hard to detect because ALL ..... attempt to act,walk, talk etc.... EXACTLY like those with real mental health issues. Determination between the two is scientific in nature with approved testing and evaluation by both medical specialist and spiritual specialist.

originally posted by: pthena
a reply to: DeathSlayer

What you may not know....approved exorcisms require a demonlogist.

That would make sense. Summon a demon out of someone. Not a hard concept.

That seems quite a risky job, how to determine a person's own daemon from a foreign unnatural daemon.

The Golden Compass by Philip Pullman describes "intercision" as separating a person's own daemon from the person. The results to children were not good, not good at all.

a reply to: DeathSlayer

Like that TV show Evil on CBS?
The TV show portrays it like a small time operation.