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Heroes Don't get captured

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posted on Sep, 6 2020 @ 06:23 AM
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a reply to: neformore

Last time you produced that argument out of thin air I linked you to a post by me from 2008 where I said John McCain was a traitorous RINO piece of crap... that position predated candidate Trump by 7 years.

McCain wasn't a hero, he was a man who was used as a pawn by his admiral father and then springboard that into a successful political career.




posted on Sep, 6 2020 @ 06:33 AM
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I suggest that President Trump knows a lot more about John McCain Than we do. He was well connected before he was elected President.



posted on Sep, 6 2020 @ 06:35 AM
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a reply to: walkinghomer

Its like showing card tricks to a dog isn't it? Trumps loyal subjects are just like the obama drones from 12 years ago, but on steroids. It's absolutely pathetic.



posted on Sep, 6 2020 @ 07:39 AM
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Do I think McCain was a war hero? Honestly... no. I think he’s a politician and lied and twisted and used all the tools he had available to him. I also think most people would do the same sadly. I also can see trumps point that being proud of failing isn’t what he wants to do. Trump knows how to almost say many things but not actually go there, you’ve filled in the parts that were not said. Remember when Harris said joe biden was a racist and it was all forgotten because it’s an election? So trump was in an election and made a statement about a politician...

a reply to: walkinghomer



posted on Sep, 6 2020 @ 08:16 AM
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In 1997, Trump said It’s amazing, I can’t even believe it. I’ve been so lucky in terms of that whole world, it is a dangerous world out there It’s like Vietnam, sort of. It is my personal Vietnam. I feel like a great and very brave solider, men who didn’t go to Vietnam didn’t need to feel guilty because dating during the AIDS epidemic in the ’80s was also dangerous.

Those kinds of comments show Trump has no understanding or respect for the 50,000+ soldiers who gave there lifes during the conflict also the possible number for POWs is well over 700, so to say he doesn't respect anyone who is captured is like giving the finger to those people too, not just McCain.

from wiki


U.S. prisoners of war in North Vietnam were subjected to extreme torture and malnutrition during their captivity. Although North Vietnam was a signatory of the Third Geneva Convention of 1949,[9] which demanded "decent and humane treatment" of prisoners of war, severe torture methods were employed, such as waterboarding, strappado (known as "the ropes" to POWs)[10], irons, beatings, and prolonged solitary confinement.[9][11][12] The aim of the torture was usually not acquiring military information.[11] Rather, it was to break the will of the prisoners, both individually and as a group.[11][13] The goal of the North Vietnamese was to get written or recorded statements from the prisoners that criticized U.S. conduct of the war and praised how the North Vietnamese treated them.[11] Such POW statements would be viewed as a propaganda victory in the battle to sway world and U.S. domestic opinion against the U.S. war effort.



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posted on Sep, 6 2020 @ 08:29 AM
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The more you know

... I could see how he is a "hero" to the left lol

No Name that is ...


No mistake




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posted on Sep, 6 2020 @ 08:52 AM
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a reply to: MetalThunder

So you post a North Vietnamese propaganda video to prove what??

So is this guy a traitor too??


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posted on Sep, 6 2020 @ 08:55 AM
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originally posted by: Kurokage
a reply to: MetalThunder

So you post a North Vietnamese propaganda video to prove what??

So is this guy a traitor too??



Nothing in my post you referenced was an opinion... But this is .. sorta lol

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posted on Sep, 6 2020 @ 09:04 AM
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a reply to: MetalThunder

The man your claiming is a traitor became a Republican.

from wiki


In 1982, McCain ran as a Republican for an open seat in Arizona's 1st congressional district,


You lose!



posted on Sep, 6 2020 @ 09:11 AM
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originally posted by: Kurokage
a reply to: MetalThunder

The man your claiming is a traitor became a Republican.

from wiki


In 1982, McCain ran as a Republican for an open seat in Arizona's 1st congressional district,


You lose!

Focus .. THINK BIGGER

This isn't about me lol

Good luck !
LoL
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posted on Sep, 6 2020 @ 09:38 AM
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a reply to: Kurokage

McCain becoming a "Republican" was all part of the deep cover 😎



posted on Sep, 6 2020 @ 09:40 AM
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a reply to: Guyfriday

Yeah. A true hero would have negotiated better treatment for other POWs not just himself 😎



posted on Sep, 6 2020 @ 09:52 AM
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a reply to: walkinghomer


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posted on Sep, 6 2020 @ 11:02 AM
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a reply to: xuenchen



McCain becoming a "Republican" was all part of the deep cover


So now it was a deep cover, you should try that as a stand-up because your hilarious!!



posted on Sep, 6 2020 @ 11:31 AM
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a reply to: xuenchen

Nope, McCain was GOP because that was the party that he was able to use to get elected. He didn't care about much other that himself, and his self interest. Why else would he have divorced his first wife that waited for him while he was a POW in order to hook up with a model? McCain had a very bad reputation as a lady's man even during his time at the USNA.

He could have negotiated better treatment though, isn't that the rub. The NVA thought he was some kind of royalty, or at least treated him as such, so he could have done something about the treatment of others, but he didn't. In fact he cared little for other POWs. back in the 90's when the hunt for missing in action personnel was taking place because of information coming out of Vietnam, McCain refused to acknowledge the information, and even voted down funding for looking for anyone.



posted on Sep, 6 2020 @ 12:36 PM
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a reply to: walkinghomer

Why would you automatically be a hero if you were captured? John McCain may be a POW, but he was also a POS.

To answer your questions I'd say:
1. No
2. No
3. No
4. No
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posted on Sep, 6 2020 @ 02:00 PM
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I think most people in the US military are aware of trumps military record and his attitude toward them.



posted on Sep, 7 2020 @ 01:11 AM
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a reply to: walkinghomer John Mccain was a warmonger. He cost many young American souls their lives.
There is a time and place for war. And it is not all the time. I'm not glad he is dead. I am glad he is no longer in power in the senate. His ego and politics were very bad for our country. And that is coming from a conservative.

TRUMP 2020!



posted on Sep, 7 2020 @ 04:51 AM
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a reply to: walkinghomer

McCain was a corrupt bastard who was in cahoots with the democrat party and the rest of the RINOs. When Obama was President McCain even argued that the U.S. was a warzone, when it wasn't. He did this so that Republicans would approve radical measures the democrats(socialists)/RINOs wanted implemented as they furthered their globalist agenda.

If McCain was alive now, he would probably be claiming, like democrats/socialists are claiming, that "they are mostly peaceful protesters" while allowing U.S. cities to burn in chaos and violence from the left.

BTW, President Trump was saying that about MCCain because he was working hard with the demonrats/socialists to get rid of Trump with every lie they could think of.

When are you, not going to call you a moron/s or stupid idiot/s, going to realize that the left-wing media/RINOs want globalism to exist and for the U.S. and it's citizens to lose rights and our sovereignty, which is why they keep making up lies about Trump because he is stopping, or delaying their plans?





edit on 7-9-2020 by ElectricUniverse because: correct comment.



posted on Sep, 7 2020 @ 04:55 AM
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originally posted by: olaru12
I think most people in the US military are aware of trumps military record and his attitude toward them.


And like the LEOs are doing the large majority of LEOs are in favor of Trump, just like most military personnel are in favor of Trump, except those whom are ignorant or those who are globalists.

McCain was a huge warmonger, and so are Mattis, Bolton, and other head honchos whom are against Trump because he is not sending more soldiers to be sacrificed for the stocks these warmongers have in destroying and reconstructing countries while the U.S. debt goes up and our country is burned to the ground thanks to the "never-Trumpers..."




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