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Trump claims Americans Who Died in War Are ‘Losers’ and ‘Suckers’

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posted on Sep, 4 2020 @ 12:35 PM
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So why was this story regurgitated from 2018 today?




posted on Sep, 4 2020 @ 12:37 PM
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Defend Trump? Against what? What is there to defend?

Hey, I heard from someone in the know that Joe Biden has daily Zoom conversations with Vladimir Putin where he kneels and calls Putin "my master."

OMG! Biden is a Russian plant! He's a Putin puppet!



TheRedneck



posted on Sep, 4 2020 @ 12:42 PM
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www.breitbart.com...

John Bolton says it's not true.



posted on Sep, 4 2020 @ 12:47 PM
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a reply to: cklein61

He didn't like McCain?? Oh, noes.

Oh, hang on a second... I didn't like McCain, either.

So your attempted point is???



posted on Sep, 4 2020 @ 12:48 PM
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originally posted by: seagull
a reply to: cklein61

He didn't like McCain?? Oh, noes.

Oh, hang on a second... I didn't like McCain, either.

So your attempted point is???


Everyone knows McCain was a POS anti-trumper and even participated in a deep state coup. Very sad that a POW veteran would revert to being a traitor to his country in his dying days.
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posted on Sep, 4 2020 @ 01:05 PM
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originally posted by: Kurokage
Trump-americans who died at war are losers and suckers




When President Donald Trump canceled a visit to the Aisne-Marne American Cemetery near Paris in 2018, he blamed rain for the last-minute decision, saying that “the helicopter couldn’t fly” and that the Secret Service wouldn’t drive him there. Neither claim was true.

Trump rejected the idea of the visit because he feared his hair would become disheveled in the rain, and because he did not believe it important to honor American war dead, according to four people with firsthand knowledge of the discussion that day. In a conversation with senior staff members on the morning of the scheduled visit, Trump said, “Why should I go to that cemetery? It’s filled with losers.” In a separate conversation on the same trip, Trump referred to the more than 1,800 marines who lost their lives at Belleau Wood as “suckers” for getting killed.




Trump remained fixated on McCain, one of the few prominent Republicans to continue criticizing him after he won the nomination. When McCain died, in August 2018, Trump told his senior staff, according to three sources with direct knowledge of this event, “We’re not going to support that loser’s funeral,” and he became furious, according to witnesses, when he saw flags lowered to half-staff. “What the # are we doing that for? Guy was a #ing loser,” the president told aides. Trump was not invited to McCain’s funeral. (These sources, and others quoted in this article, spoke on condition of anonymity. The White House did not return earlier calls for comment, but Alyssa Farah, a White House spokesperson, emailed me this statement shortly after this story was posted: “This report is false. President Trump holds the military in the highest regard. He’s demonstrated his commitment to them at every turn: delivering on his promise to give our troops a much needed pay raise, increasing military spending, signing critical veterans reforms, and supporting military spouses. This has no basis in fact.”)




On Memorial Day 2017, Trump visited Arlington National Cemetery, a short drive from the White House. He was accompanied on this visit by John Kelly, who was then the secretary of homeland security, and who would, a short time later, be named the White House chief of staff. The two men were set to visit Section 60, the 14-acre area of the cemetery that is the burial ground for those killed in America’s most recent wars. Kelly’s son Robert is buried in Section 60. A first lieutenant in the Marine Corps, Robert Kelly was killed in 2010 in Afghanistan. He was 29. Trump was meant, on this visit, to join John Kelly in paying respects at his son’s grave, and to comfort the families of other fallen service members. But according to sources with knowledge of this visit, Trump, while standing by Robert Kelly’s grave, turned directly to his father and said, “I don’t get it. What was in it for them?” Kelly (who declined to comment for this story) initially believed, people close to him said, that Trump was making a ham-handed reference to the selflessness of America’s all-volunteer force. But later he came to realize that Trump simply does not understand non-transactional life choices.




“He can’t fathom the idea of doing something for someone other than himself,” one of Kelly’s friends, a retired four-star general, told me. “He just thinks that anyone who does anything when there’s no direct personal gain to be had is a sucker. There’s no money in serving the nation.” Kelly’s friend went on to say, “Trump can’t imagine anyone else’s pain. That’s why he would say this to the father of a fallen marine on Memorial Day in the cemetery where he’s buried.”


This a news story that was published by "The Atlantic" and possibly shows Trumps disdain for the military, I know we will get ATS zombie Trumpeters post saying it's fake news or made up to troll Trump bla bla bla to defend their Leader, but what if even half of what was quoted he said is true?

We all know Trump speaks before thinking a lot of the time but if he can't see why or understand why someone would want to join his or her military services and thinks of anyone who is taken prisoner as a loser then there must be something fundamentally wrong with his understanding of why someone would serve for ones country? "In the 1990s, Trump said his efforts to avoid contracting sexually transmitted diseases constituted his “personal Vietnam." to make statements like this shows he has no understanding of military service and the commitment given in that service.

Mods, after posting this I've just found a similar post in political madness

Wow! I starred and flag you for bravery alone, this was not a popular stance and prolly will get no more love than you do now!! but I welcome you for giving zero Ducks about what lemmings thinks of ya... Yes cadet bone spurs is mad disrespectful of Vets, using them only as props...matter of fact , did he not just cut the budget for Vets??...he gives with one hand and take back with the other..talk a lot of game in between,
I guarantee you , this thread will not be popular, and for that I salute you sir...huraaarh!!!..

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posted on Sep, 4 2020 @ 01:14 PM
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Bravery for posting a debunked article? Ok.



posted on Sep, 4 2020 @ 01:24 PM
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I believe this makes the one millionth debunked baseless factless story the press has ran on Trump since he was nominated.

Congrats! Launch the ballons!



posted on Sep, 4 2020 @ 01:27 PM
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No he didn’t.



posted on Sep, 4 2020 @ 01:33 PM
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Guess who's standing up for Trump?

The Moustache Himself has called BS on this story:

John Bolton Rejects Atlantic Story: ‘I Was There’; ‘I Didn’t Hear That’

Also, the Atlantic's so-called "journalist" Jeffrey Goldberg fails basic fact-checking. He claims the visit wasn't cancelled because of the weather, but FOIA documents confirm it was. Helicopters don't typically fly in the rain unless it's some kind of emergency/rescue situation.



posted on Sep, 4 2020 @ 01:37 PM
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Someone else's lie whispered through your lips makes you a liar.

You own the lies you repeat.

Remember that.



posted on Sep, 4 2020 @ 01:38 PM
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originally posted by: projectvxn
Someone else's lie whispered through your lips makes you a liar.

You own the lies you repeat.

Remember that.

Yeah, the author of that article really needs to stop accepting every anti-Trump claim uncritically.



posted on Sep, 4 2020 @ 01:39 PM
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a reply to: Spider879

Bravery?

Posting a years old story, that every single person that was there has said is false, that's what passes for bravery these days??


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posted on Sep, 4 2020 @ 01:40 PM
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a reply to: AndyFromMichigan

Well, the rule is no flying into thunderstorms or punching into the clouds where you know icing may occur especially if your aircraft doesn't have de-ice/anti-ice capability.

I flew in the rain a lot. Just not in t-storms. I did fly plenty of missions with icing as a factor but hawks have de-ice/anti-ice capability.



posted on Sep, 4 2020 @ 01:41 PM
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a reply to: AndyFromMichigan

And the membership here who regurgitate this crap, DEFEND IT, and then ditch out when the facts come out.



posted on Sep, 4 2020 @ 01:42 PM
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a reply to: Spider879

You think regurgitated BS is bravery?



posted on Sep, 4 2020 @ 01:42 PM
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a reply to: projectvxn

Fairly sure that the Secret Service will not allow a flight that holds even the slightest risk to the President.

Unless something is very, very wrong.



posted on Sep, 4 2020 @ 01:44 PM
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a reply to: seagull

Fair point.

I imagine they'd want fair weather only.



posted on Sep, 4 2020 @ 01:47 PM
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a reply to: projectvxn

As I understand it, though I may be wrong, even a flight from the WH to Andrews AFB to AF1, will not happen if there's even a hint of bad weather... If someone knows differently, please correct me.

They drive.



posted on Sep, 4 2020 @ 01:48 PM
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a reply to: Spider879

Intellectual dishonesty, is not a good look for you, probably should refrain from adverse views steeped in disinformation and gossip.

This wasn’t brave, it was partisan.




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