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U.S. court: Mass surveillance program exposed by Snowden was illegal

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posted on Sep, 3 2020 @ 08:43 PM
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originally posted by: Southern Guardian
a reply to: DBCowboy

I'm not too hopeful following Barrs comments but glad you have support out for Snowden.

He's gone through enough. I really do feel for him.



In all things, I have always tried to advocate for more freedoms, not less. More transparancy, not less.




posted on Sep, 3 2020 @ 09:08 PM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Southern Guardian

I hope Snowden is fully pardoned.


So do I, for obvious reasons, but, not so long ago, Snowden was a traitor...here at ATS, personally speaking, I consider he was never a traitor, and God forbid that he should be given a pardon from someone who is!



posted on Sep, 3 2020 @ 09:16 PM
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originally posted by: smurfy

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Southern Guardian

I hope Snowden is fully pardoned.


So do I, for obvious reasons, but, not so long ago, Snowden was a traitor...here at ATS, personally speaking, I consider he was never a traitor, and God forbid that he should be given a pardon from someone who is!


I've always tried to be consistant, that way, I never have to remember what I've said or written.

I believe I was an advocate for Snowden even then.

It'd be interesting to go back and check. I wonder what I said then.



posted on Sep, 3 2020 @ 09:54 PM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: smurfy

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Southern Guardian

I hope Snowden is fully pardoned.


So do I, for obvious reasons, but, not so long ago, Snowden was a traitor...here at ATS, personally speaking, I consider he was never a traitor, and God forbid that he should be given a pardon from someone who is!


I've always tried to be consistant, that way, I never have to remember what I've said or written.

I believe I was an advocate for Snowden even then.

It'd be interesting to go back and check. I wonder what I said then.


No need, I wasn't making reference to you anyway.

For the great overwashed, this is one of your comments a while back,

"a reply to: TheBadCabbie
Snowden released information about our government.
Same as the leaks during the election.
The information exposed corruption, lies.
The same government says that lives have been lost because of the information released.
I say that more transparency will always be better than less, if we are to call ourselves a free society."

That's only a couple of years after Trump sought execution of Snowden, when Trump was just a long haired vigilante of course.
Things change though don't they? reflections are good though...mostly, but also advantageous!




edit on 3-9-2020 by smurfy because: Text.



posted on Sep, 4 2020 @ 06:12 AM
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a reply to: Southern Guardian

I quoted the relevant part where I felt you had an expectation of the president that he never actually committed to.

I didn't answer vaguely. I can only go on what the president already said.

What I'd like to see happen isn't guaranteed and while I am hopeful for a pardon I don't expect it.
edit on 9 4 2020 by projectvxn because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 4 2020 @ 09:48 AM
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Great , so it was illegal.
So now the only logical thing is to arrest those that set it up and file charges against the current administration too if they do not dismantle the operation within a set time period.
It is way past time that Bush, Obama and their cronies were put behind bars for setting up and expanding the most intrusive surveillance state the world has ever seen.

As for Snowden, he should not be pardoned - no need. All charges should be dropped and his record wiped clean.
He should get a f***** ticker-tape parade on his return to the US.
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posted on Sep, 4 2020 @ 08:36 PM
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a reply to: projectvxn


What I'd like to see happen isn't guaranteed


Thanks for responding.



posted on Sep, 4 2020 @ 08:38 PM
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o now the only logical thing is to arrest those that set it up and file charges against the current administration too if they do not dismantle the operation within a set time period.

It is way past time that Bush, Obama and their cronies were put behind bars for setting up and expanding the most intrusive surveillance state the world has ever seen.


I'm glad you included the current administration. You surprised me with this comment UK. Kudos.

The Trump Administration Is Using the Full Power of the U.S. Surveillance State Against Whistleblowers

Trump Administration Moves To Reauthorize NSA’s Controversial Spying Program




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