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posted on Sep, 2 2020 @ 08:09 AM
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originally posted by: Nyiah

originally posted by: Krahzeef_Ukhar
a reply to: musicismagic
Do you really think it's that simple?

The problems are caused by people not understanding true struggle so they think they are being oppressed whilst wearing clothes made by child slaves.

There's probably more immigrants having their shops burnt than immigrants burning shops.

I have no facts to back that up.


Remember that MiM is in Japan.

The Japanese are highly xenophobic, even toward frigging neighbor countries. And god freaking forbid someone deigns to have a kid who isn't fully Japanese, that's a nasty can of worms there.

Remembering that, his comments are understandable -- for a country that still shuns people from across a strait or seas that pretty much look and act exactly like them anyway.


I dunno. My best mate emigrated there from the UK and married a girl over there with the blessing of her father and the village (village tradition is for an engaged guy to run through the village completely naked while every other villager throws water on you and tries to touch you for good look). He was the first person from outside the village to witness or film it.



He, his family and kid have never had any problems the 15 years he's lived there, he moved over there because of how polite people are.

It used to be very racist and xenophobic but things have rapidly improved since 2005.




posted on Sep, 2 2020 @ 08:12 AM
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originally posted by: SecretKnowledge

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: SecretKnowledge

Steak, not haggis.

Ah now, i know you know thats a Scottish dish
We're Celtic brothers, but keep that nasty haggis away


Well you've clearly never had a good Haggis. I love it, it's one of my favourite things to eat. Can't get enough.



posted on Sep, 2 2020 @ 08:39 AM
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originally posted by: Bhadhidar

originally posted by: musicismagic
Have you noticed all the decay in America what's happening because there's no real American Spirit from the Americans because they've been invaded by world population of different cultures that have brought their cultures to America which are not in line with the normality of the American way of life.


The United States is an entire nation of immigrants.

Was so from since before it became an actual “nation”.

Even the “Native Americans” are, themselves, “immigrants” from Asian Siberia, South and Central America, and Polynesia (in the case of indigenous Hawaiians).


ETA:

I happen to live in one of the most racially and ethnically diverse cities in California, and, in fact, the US.

We are doing quite well, economically, in fact.

The City just broke ground for a brand new 3800 acre development that will include thousands of new homes, a new high school, and new retail spaces, as well as the largest park in the area.

Diversity is Strength!



I think the OP is off base on some aspects and perhaps correct in others. There are some success stories and some communities that are thriving and then there are some communities that aren't. It's not because they were imported nessasarily but it's definitely a factor.It is why we need to be careful about immigration, especially in these uns=certain waters we founf our selves in.



posted on Sep, 2 2020 @ 09:32 AM
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a reply to: musicismagic

A loaf is only as good as it's ingredient's, a nation only as good as it's people and only as strong as it's shared values, an economy is only ever stable in a stable nation were shared values are the norm.

Economic migrant's can be Good as in the case of a 1800's to 1900's United States but almost all of those migrant's were hard working European's coming from already developed economy's with an in place already trained and time served skill set ready to be put to use in the building of the US economy.

Modern Economic migrant's are very different, mostly they are from Islamic and African nation's, have few or no skill's, are not looking for work but hoping to have handout's from the welfare states which were never intended for that purpose but were actually intended as a safety net to look after and protect the wellbeing of the children of the people whom built those first world nations in the first place, once these third world migrant's arrive as soon as they can find a woman they are having as many kid's as they can for two reason's, more money from the welfare states and also more right's since there children born in those first world nations are then a ticket to human right's and the right to family life as they are citizens' of the host nation were they are born and other than that if they have family back home they are often sending money back to them and looking to find a way to bring them in as well which - a - bleeds the economy of wages that otherwise would be back in circulation within that economy and - b - promotes further migration from those nations and the same cycle all over again - rinse repeat.


I agree, it is tearing us down but at the moment it is far from our greatest problem in the UK as an example and in fact most of our migrant's have actually turned out to be hard working and a benefit to the economy, our problem is something else a failure of commonality and a break down in unifying values and religious beliefs as well as an ethnic shift from our own people toward this migrant's, give it time though once they become the dominant our nations will indeed slip into third world place and by that time European's will have no homeland of there own any longer.

Japan is much more careful but even so when I was there in the 90's Kumiko our interpreter and Masami our other interpreter (actually one of them married to the son of a ranking members of the company we worked for and the other the daughter of one of the directors - Sanko Gosei - warned us to beware of the Arab's as they referred to them whom were known to pickpocket around the Shinjuku area not that we met any though I did get felt up (back pockets) by a pretty blonde whom was probably more Russian or eastern European than Arab (haha and not that I was complaining I had noting in my back pockets other than me?).

I would like to stress I am not Racist, I believe that making a healthy economy sick and impoverishing our own people is not a way to mend human right's for these third world citizen's, building up there economy's by getting them to stay there and work to fix them themselves instead of vulturing on our nations IS a way to promote there human right's and to build up there own nations, they are instead wasting there energy getting here rather than using it to sort out there own problem's.

That said I am all for Human Right's migrant's fleeing death or persecution in there home nations, or migrant's fleeing some other form of collapse such as famine etc since it is a matter of life or death and in those circumstances we can only thank God we are non in there boot's and remember to remember that Jesus himself was a refugee when a babe in arms whom whose mother and protector had to flee into Egypt with him when Herod set out to kill him.

On that argument how do we know that by turning away a migrant we are not turning away the Lord himself and damning ourselves in the process.

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posted on Sep, 2 2020 @ 11:07 AM
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Yes, I've noticed.

The "contributions" are not worth the trouble.



posted on Sep, 2 2020 @ 11:09 AM
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originally posted by: musicismagic
Have you noticed all the decay in America what's happening because there's no real American Spirit from the Americans because they've been invaded by world population of different cultures that have brought their cultures to America which are not in line with the normality of the American way of life.


It's a third world mentality. Look at South Africa. Those people were already there.



posted on Sep, 2 2020 @ 11:28 AM
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posted on Sep, 2 2020 @ 11:28 AM
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America will be 50 percent non-Hispanic white in just 25 years, as opposed to 90 percent white in 1945.

There has never been a First World nation that didn’t have either a white- or East Asian-majority population. If diversity and multiculturalism are as wonderful as the Left so fervently believes they are, our standard of living and per capita GDP should rise. We’ll see.

Someone needs to tell China, Japan, South Korea and Taiwan how they’re screwing themselves by being so homogeneous. The poor fools! Don’t they know diversity strengthens a nation?
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posted on Sep, 2 2020 @ 11:31 AM
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I'd argue that America has depreciated more from immigration from Europeans than any 3rd world country.

The Native Americans knew how to respect the land and western culture turned this natural beauty of a country into a mall parking lot.

Invasion and colonization is the American spirit and it's alive and well thanks to the military industrial complex and us wanting to police the world.



posted on Sep, 2 2020 @ 11:46 AM
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originally posted by: Psilocyborg
I'd argue that America has depreciated more from immigration from Europeans than any 3rd world country.

The Native Americans knew how to respect the land and western culture turned this natural beauty of a country into a mall parking lot.

Invasion and colonization is the American spirit and it's alive and well thanks to the military industrial complex and us wanting to police the world.
I agree America was a natural wonderland before Europeans arrived. And the aborigines lived like savages and had nasty, brutish and brief lives. Do you think they were saints? They warred against each other, enslaved, tortured and committed genocide. They possibly wiped out the amazing megafauna that once thrived here. They totally changed the ecosystem in huge swathes of territory with deliberately set fires that made forests more amenable to the deer they hunted. The Aztecs and others practiced human sacrifice. Cannibalism was practiced by a number of tribes.

If Europeans had never arrived, do you think no one else from the Old World would have colonized the Americas? Were Europeans the only ones smart enough to explore the entire world and bold enough to conquer it? How about the Chinese and Muslims? They had great seafaring traditions and technology. And both had long histories of conquest.

Also, consider what this world would be like if America had never existed. Germany, Russia, Japan and China would have found conquest and genocide much easier.

America is far from perfect and guilty of terrible sins, but you have to put things in perspective.
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posted on Sep, 2 2020 @ 11:47 AM
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a reply to: Freeborn

I had Panack the other day with black pudding. For me it's best rewarmed about 12 hours later. It's something special when the potato is crisp but super soft.

Even double fried works, I sometimes make homemade fries that way. Cook the fries on a lower heat till they're soft. Take em out, pat em dry (allow to go cold if you wish it really helps) then fry them again at about 180°C for 2-3 mins.

They'll come out crispy with a soft center, it's a faff on making fries but they're a genuine treat, mine are usually accompanied with a merican burger... Always popular even at BBQs.



posted on Sep, 2 2020 @ 12:00 PM
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a reply to: musicismagic

The Japanese are highly xenophobic.

You've mentioned yourself you've lived in Japan many years, do you not think you've gone native?

The USA imported people from less developed nations and more developed nations... Before the 1st, 2nd and 3rd world's existed anyways they developed a land that would lead the 1st world against the 2nd... Ya know because that's actually more about the cold war than xenophobic judgement on lesser developed nations?

The USA is a bastardisation of many cultures, full of lovable clichés, culinary infusions and cultural power to be in awe of.

How's Japan doing with the imported culture?

Tentacle porn, robots and dressing up as Pokémon on Sundays? Last I heard all the men want to be ladies.

Apologies sarcasm isn't my greatest trait yet I hope you got my point that your fears are misguided and misplaced. Personally I was always in awe of Cajun food and culture.. Tell me. What is American culture and way of life?



posted on Sep, 2 2020 @ 01:16 PM
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a reply to: Bhadhidar

First, let me congratulate you on a marvelous work of virtue signaling.....I have saved your post for future reference to use when I am arrested by the PC police. Should stand me in good stead along with a slew of other memorized PC mantras.

Second, while you trumpet the advantages of diversity, you obviously overlook the effects on the non-diverse. Not that you care. After all, diversity trumps everything else if you are diverse. But the effects you overlook are that the non-diverse come to realize they have been entirely marginalized. Not that that matters to you either because, well frankly, you no longer even notice them.

Another effect that may well come back to haunt you, or perhaps bite you on the posterior is that the non-diverse really no longer have much of an "America" to look to and that will result in a great weakening of the National fabric. You may not care now, but be forwarned, the CCP cares and they are just looking for an opportunity to take over. And, they probably will. They now manage the Panama canal and are in the process of taking over Venezuela. California cant be far behind on their agenda.

Good luck with that.



posted on Sep, 2 2020 @ 01:56 PM
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Mass immigration also demoralizes the native born population, as they realize their government has absolutely no loyalty to them.

There is indeed a good reason that all the free, prosperous nations of the West are white and Christian. And that all the s***hole countries people want to leave are populated and led by 'people of color.'
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posted on Sep, 2 2020 @ 04:07 PM
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originally posted by: Psilocyborg
I'd argue that America has depreciated more from immigration from Europeans than any 3rd world country.

The Native Americans knew how to respect the land and western culture turned this natural beauty of a country into a mall parking lot.

Invasion and colonization is the American spirit and it's alive and well thanks to the military industrial complex and us wanting to police the world.


I am not criticising you but I severely disagree and believe that on this you are actually very wrong indeed, the Native peoples invaded, enslaved, murdered one another just like there paler skinned European cousin's from the other side of the pond did, they had a great diversity of people's ranging from peaceful farming community's with settled towns to nomadic hunter gatherers to warlike warrior tribes whom took scalp's from there often completely innocent victim's as a sign of virility.

There are the ruins of the Mayan civilization in South America and Lidar show's that a city of at least eight to twelve million people once existed there, they destroyed there own habitat and died out becoming scattered and surviving only as more primitive tribes having forgotten the glory of there past OR a natural catastrophe or natural climate change did them in but either way they were even more populace and more destructive to there environment than Europeans of the same period.

And what of the mound builders and other sites in the US of A which hint at entire lost cultures (Blame the Smithsonian for secreting away evidence that may prove this to be the case - they belong to the US government and such evidence was not good for the Manifest Destiny propaganda or painting the often civilized peoples of the Americas as Savages so getting rid of or otherwise losing that evidence was part of the policy), what did them in, over population followed by war or other forms of collapse, famines happen all the time in the world.

Your argument is either - A - Racist against modern Americans a hell of a lot of whom also have native ancestry - remember the eastern states had a large number of native people's whom simply became part of the citizenship and mixed with the settlers they were not all wiped out as in the case of the great rush for the west that followed in the later century's.

OR B - misinformed and anti human.

We are all one, our true world is the Spirit world and our God the greatest and most powerful spirit of them all the father of all creation will make all thing's new, he even said when he came among us that there is nothing new under the sun, get it, it's all been before in one way or another.

Ancient doll's found deep underground when digging a well, pestles and mortars found under a mountain when mining it etc, evidence that we are not the first, our mistakes and failings we are not the first to make and probably not the last, someone was here before is and someone will be here after, if you want an empty world with no people you are wrong because that is not what the great spirit want's though his enemy surely does, he want's the great spirit's children wiped out and creation destroyed, it is destroyed and it is made again you see the enemy can not win, you see the world ending but in fact what you are looking at is merely the prelude toward a new dawn evening has to come before dawn.

It is nice if we have some common sense and protect the world for our kid's but we are often not so sensible, people have always resisted change and this thread is about just that our insecurity at the world that changes around us but as the old saying goes time wait's for no man.

The world will always change, people will always fight sometimes even go to war to both enact change and to resist it, make no mistake you are on the side of a war, both sides are fighting but like blind people they do not even see the battle they are walking into or know the danger this will cause, all day's must have an evening, I just hope this is not the start of our evening and that we are still in the morning of this current human races age but that is for God to decide.

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posted on Sep, 2 2020 @ 04:24 PM
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a reply to: musicismagic

Everyone has called you racist for this post...

How do you respond to that?

I think you're a fool like me pissing into the wind and have been misunderstood.



posted on Sep, 2 2020 @ 04:36 PM
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a reply to: Krahzeef_Ukhar

Utter and total Bull and who is everyone anyway, you mean everyone in you house, everyone in your circle or everyone in the world because to be frank you are wrong, music magic has not put anything here that is racist.



posted on Sep, 2 2020 @ 04:40 PM
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a reply to: LABTECH767

True, Not everyone. That was wrong of me to say.
And to clarify I don't think there's racist motivations.

It's wording that can be easily misunderstood by foolish people like myself.



posted on Sep, 2 2020 @ 04:58 PM
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It is not foolish but the global situation is that the First world nations have become magnets to people wanting a better life, the problem is that there are so many of them and so many are coming into the first world that the first world can simply not absorb these migrant's without losing the first world's nations selves in the process, tribal migrations have happened throughout human history but never on the scale they are happening today (at least in recorded history the closest is probably at the end of the last ice age and quite possibly though we have no or very little data from before that period to the end of the last interglacial period at the very start of the last ice age).

Migration can be both good and bad, it is in fact currently both but the rate of migration is too great for these migrant's to be absorbed into the nations like they once were, this creates ghetto's and this creates divide and this creates and stokes actual racism (on both sides of the divide) which is a sad outcome as well as resentment on both sides of the divide.

What you have to remember is we are a blind species, we don't see the person we see the colour of the skin, there culture or beliefs but we are blind to the person and tribal mentality takes over, racists exploit this to gain power, to blame the migrant's for what to be frank is the fault of the politicians not the migrants.

If Migration is handled correctly it can be a win, win for everyone, new blood, new genetic dynamism, new food's to try, the best of all cultures is desirable but what people don't want is the worst of all cultures even there own, everyone has problems' and there will always be people wanting to create scapegoats, the NAZI's did it to gain power and rile up the German population and look what that did to the world.

But there are other forms of bias, look at the Khmer Rouge, one of the nastiest and most evil regimes in history though it was small, there hatred was of the educated, of the intelligent and of course they killed as many of them off as they could, hardly a way to recreate the ancient Khmer empire which was actually a very enlightened and educated culture before it's demise.

So by that example we have to be guarded against all forms of bias, the point he was making is that the influx of so many people is unsustainable and in fact he is correct, at some point it will be stopped either peacefully by intelligent global leadership investing in and helping the nations these folk's are fleeing OR by cruel and bitter evil method's making the destination of these migrant's unpalatable to them, I prefer the former since we are all human being's and this is a tiny world, we all have to work to fix it and making those nations into great places to live is in everyone's interests.

But we live in a world ruled by greedy men so I Would not hold my breath waiting for them to do this so it will probably be the cruel way to stopping it that eventually happens and in that we will lose our soul, our moral high ground and become the thing we hate.



posted on Sep, 2 2020 @ 05:02 PM
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a reply to: LABTECH767

I think you are correct.
I saw the first post and reacted like a dirty lefty...

But I still believe that migrants work harder and longer.

I haven't slept with a native Australian hooker in ages.




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