It looks like you're using an Ad Blocker.

Please white-list or disable AboveTopSecret.com in your ad-blocking tool.

Thank you.

 

Some features of ATS will be disabled while you continue to use an ad-blocker.

 

Dangerous provocation at the Victory Parade in Moscow

page: 1
5
<<   2 >>

log in

join
share:

posted on Sep, 1 2020 @ 07:22 AM
link   
The recently retired Polish Foreign Minister Jacek Czaputovich gave an interview to Rzeczpospolita, in which he said a lot of sensational things.

According to the former Polish Foreign Minister, on June 24 - the day of the Victory Day parade on Red Square in Moscow - a kind of "offensive initiative" was planned by a team of foreign ministers of Poland, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia and Ukraine.

"I recently consulted with the Prime Minister on a joint trip of the Ministers of Foreign Affairs of Poland, the Baltic States and Ukraine to the Donbass region and to Georgia on June 24, the day of the Victory Day in Red Square. It would be an offensive initiative, it was to to balance Russia in the realm of historical narrative and to show the actual role that it plays today. ”Everything was ready, we had to fly together on a Polish plane.
Considering, however, the presidential elections (in Poland - my note) ultimately we refused, since it was impossible to predict the impact of the alleged sharp reaction of Russia on the course of the last phase of the campaign. Instead, I took the initiative to call upon myself the Lublin Triangle connecting Poland, Ukraine and Lithuania - the three neighbors of Belarus. I hope this will be a long-term form of cooperation between our countries. "

Jacek Czaputovich did not specify how five foreign ministers of countries generating Russophobia could physically get into the Donetsk People's Republic. This is possible only with the use of military force, since the Polish plane could be shot down, and Russia would be blamed for everything. But apparently the ministers are not ready to risk their lives, even in order to once again blame Russia for the plane crash, especially during the Victory Parade in Moscow.


Poland and the Baltic countries are NATO members, so this action could provoke a full-scale war between Russia and NATO.

Let me remind you that I described in detail the initiative of Poland in creating the Lublin Triangle in the thread "New Rzeczpospolita. How realistic is the revival of the old confederation in Europe"


Thank.




posted on Sep, 1 2020 @ 07:26 AM
link   
was this a part of the Polish government that all quit at the same time?
yea, that didn't seem fishy at all. Not at all like when the entire polish government was killed in a plane wreck.
Perhaps this is why there are so many polish jokes?



posted on Sep, 1 2020 @ 07:31 AM
link   
a reply to: network dude

The Polish delegation died in a plane crash due to their own stupidity due to very bad weather conditions in Smolensk. The dispatchers offered to leave for the alternate airport and forbade landing.
However, in order to find at least some fault of Moscow, the Poles constantly dug up the body of Lech Kaczynski.



posted on Sep, 1 2020 @ 07:34 AM
link   
a reply to: RussianTroll

none of that made it seem less odd, at least from the outside. And now the government all resigns at the same time?
It looks like something odd is happening over there. It probably will require some investigation.



posted on Sep, 1 2020 @ 07:39 AM
link   

originally posted by: network dude
a reply to: RussianTroll

none of that made it seem less odd, at least from the outside. And now the government all resigns at the same time?
It looks like something odd is happening over there. It probably will require some investigation.


This is an ordinary struggle between globalists and nationalists. Polish globalists are guided by the European Union and liberal values, nationalists are guided by the United States and traditional values. But they all take an extremely Russophobic position.



posted on Sep, 1 2020 @ 07:58 AM
link   
a reply to: RussianTroll

Considering that Russia held communist control over much of Europe for four decades I can understand them being a bit russophobic.



posted on Sep, 1 2020 @ 08:05 AM
link   

originally posted by: Bluntone22
a reply to: RussianTroll

Considering that Russia held communist control over much of Europe for four decades I can understand them being a bit russophobic.


According to your logic, the Russians, who for many centuries repulsed the aggression of Europe, should hate the Europeans?
But this is not the case.



posted on Sep, 1 2020 @ 08:16 AM
link   
a reply to: RussianTroll

Not at all.
The occupation ended 30 years ago and is in many people recent memory.
That should be considered.



posted on Sep, 1 2020 @ 08:41 AM
link   

originally posted by: Bluntone22
a reply to: RussianTroll

Not at all.
The occupation ended 30 years ago and is in many people recent memory.
That should be considered.



And Germany? I have relatives who died in World War II.



posted on Sep, 1 2020 @ 08:51 AM
link   
a reply to: RussianTroll

I would think that your relatives would still hold a grudge.



posted on Sep, 1 2020 @ 08:59 AM
link   

originally posted by: Bluntone22
a reply to: RussianTroll

I would think that your relatives would still hold a grudge.


Don't think for my relatives. This is at least ugly.



posted on Sep, 1 2020 @ 09:18 AM
link   
So there wasn't actually any provocation at the parade at all? Just an ex minister waxin' his bean in an interview?
Strange thread, but hey carry on

edit on 1 9 2020 by Artlogic because: Putin gave me best bear rug for loungeroom



posted on Sep, 1 2020 @ 09:29 AM
link   

originally posted by: Artlogic

So there wasn't actually any provocation at the parade at all? Just an ex minister waxin' his bean in an interview?
Strange thread, but hey carry on


If the provocation had succeeded, now, perhaps, Europe no longer existed. Although Australia is far away, but not that much)))



posted on Sep, 1 2020 @ 09:43 AM
link   

originally posted by: RussianTroll

originally posted by: Artlogic

So there wasn't actually any provocation at the parade at all? Just an ex minister waxin' his bean in an interview?
Strange thread, but hey carry on


If the provocation had succeeded, now, perhaps, Europe no longer existed. Although Australia is far away, but not that much)))

I see.... so, had this thing, that they didn't even try to do, succeeded. These 5 chaps would have gotten themselves shot down, and that somehow would have destroyed Europe?
Methinks parties from both sides would have laughed.....said that was hilariously stupid.....and gone about there day.
Although, I'm a long way from Europe, what do I know

edit on 1 9 2020 by Artlogic because: I can haz the wodkaz?



posted on Sep, 1 2020 @ 10:05 AM
link   

originally posted by: RussianTroll

originally posted by: Bluntone22
a reply to: RussianTroll

I would think that your relatives would still hold a grudge.


Don't think for my relatives. This is at least ugly.


You Russians have plenty of ugly to feel guilty for just like everybody else.



posted on Sep, 1 2020 @ 10:11 AM
link   

originally posted by: Bluntone22

originally posted by: RussianTroll

originally posted by: Bluntone22
a reply to: RussianTroll

I would think that your relatives would still hold a grudge.


Don't think for my relatives. This is at least ugly.


You Russians have plenty of ugly to feel guilty for just like everybody else.


Tell this to the 27 million people who were killed in the Great Patriotic War and their families.



posted on Sep, 1 2020 @ 10:17 AM
link   

originally posted by: RussianTroll

originally posted by: Bluntone22

originally posted by: RussianTroll

originally posted by: Bluntone22
a reply to: RussianTroll

I would think that your relatives would still hold a grudge.


Don't think for my relatives. This is at least ugly.


You Russians have plenty of ugly to feel guilty for just like everybody else.


Tell this to the 27 million people who were killed in the Great Patriotic War and their families.



Or the families of the millions stalin killed..
Lol...

Sunshine and lollipops



posted on Sep, 1 2020 @ 10:21 AM
link   

originally posted by: Bluntone22

originally posted by: RussianTroll

originally posted by: Bluntone22

originally posted by: RussianTroll

originally posted by: Bluntone22
a reply to: RussianTroll

I would think that your relatives would still hold a grudge.


Don't think for my relatives. This is at least ugly.


You Russians have plenty of ugly to feel guilty for just like everybody else.


Tell this to the 27 million people who were killed in the Great Patriotic War and their families.



Or the families of the millions stalin killed..
Lol...

Sunshine and lollipops


First, answer for the 19 million killed by Europeans - Germans, French, Italians, Spaniards, Hungarians, Romanians, Czechs, Poles, Jews, Belgians, Dutch, Danes, Finns, Poles, ordinary Russian civilians - old people, children and women. And only then say something about Stalin.
Just post the national composition of the Waffen SS. All of Europe is there.

edit on 1-9-2020 by RussianTroll because: correct

edit on 1-9-2020 by RussianTroll because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 1 2020 @ 10:27 AM
link   
a reply to: RussianTroll

Why?
I already said above that everybody has things to feel guilty for.

Everyone...

Even Russia... Why can't you admit that?



posted on Sep, 1 2020 @ 10:30 AM
link   

originally posted by: Bluntone22
a reply to: RussianTroll

Why?
I already said above that everybody has things to feel guilty for.

Everyone...

Even Russia... Why can't you admit that?


Clear. How to carry the answer - straight into the bushes. There is no need to hide your responsibility behind the backs of Russian leaders. We will deal with them ourselves. Respond for your own actions.



new topics

top topics



 
5
<<   2 >>

log in

join