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Prescott Bush and the Nazis

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posted on Mar, 16 2005 @ 12:14 AM
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Anyone familiar with this...true or false?

"Prescott Bush and the Nazis

In Bush’s case, covering up the historical origins of fascism in Germany serves a particular, indeed personal, function. While the president’s father had dealings with the bin Ladens, his grandfather made a considerable share of the family fortune through his dealings with Nazi Germany. Some have suggested that the Bushes’ assets have their ultimate source, in part, in the exploitation of slave labor at Auschwitz itself.

From the 1920s into the 1940s—after the Second World War had begun—Prescott Bush was a partner and executive in the Brown Brothers Harriman holding company on Wall Street and a director of one of its key financial components, the Union Banking Corporation (UBC).

Together with his father-in-law George Herbert Walker—the current president’s great grandfather—Prescott Bush controlled another asset of the holding company, the Hamburg-Amerika shipping line, which was utilized by the Nazi regime to transport its agents in and out of North America.

Another subsidiary of the Harriman group, Harriman International Co., struck a deal with Hitler’s regime in 1933 to coordinate German exports to the US market.

UBC, meanwhile, managed all of the banking operations outside of Germany for Fritz Thyssen, the German industrial magnate and author of the book I Paid Hitler, in which he acknowledged having financed the Nazi movement from 1923 until its rise to power.

In October 1942, 10 months after it had entered the Second World War, the US government seized UBC and several other companies in which the Harrimans and Prescott Bush had interests. In addition to Bush and Roland Harriman, three Nazi executives were named in the order issued by Washington to take over the bank.

An investigation carried out in 1945 revealed that the bank run by Prescott Bush was linked to the German Steel Trust run by Thyssen and Flick, one of the defendants at Nuremberg. This gigantic industrial firm produced fully half the steel and more than a third of the explosives, not to mention other strategic materials, used by the German military machine during the war years.

On October 28, 1942, the US government confiscated the assets of two firms that served as fronts for the Nazi regime—the Holland-American Trading Corporation and the Seamless Steel Equipment Corporation, both controlled by UBC. A month later, it seized Nazi interests in the Silesian-American Corporation (SAC), directed by Prescott Bush and his father-in-law, George Walker.

The seizure order, issued under the Trading with the Enemy Act, described Silesian-American as a “US holding company with German and Polish subsidiaries” that controlled large and valuable coal and zinc mines in Silesia, Poland and Germany. It added that, since September 1939 (when Hitler unleashed the Second World War) these properties had been under the control of the Nazi regime, which had utilized them to further its war effort.

Among SAC’s assets was a steel plant in Poland in the same district as Auschwitz. The plant reportedly used the concentration camp’s inmates as slave labor.

Among those who have investigated the links between the Bushes and the Nazis is John Loftus, a former prosecutor in the Justice Department’s War Crimes Unit, who now heads the Florida Holocaust Museum in Saint Petersburg. Loftus has charged that the Bush family received $1.5 million from its interest in UBC, when the bank was finally liquidated in 1951. “That’s where the Bush family fortune came from: It came from the Third Reich,” Loftus said in a recent speech.

Loftus argues that this money—a substantial sum at that time—included direct profit from the slave labor of those who died at Auschwitz. In an interview with journalist Toby Rogers, the former prosecutor said: “It is bad enough that the Bush family helped raise the money for Thyssen to give Hitler his start in the 1920s, but giving aid and comfort to the enemy in time of war is treason. The Bush bank helped the Thyssens make the Nazi steel that killed Allied solders. As bad as financing the Nazi war machine may seem, aiding and abetting the Holocaust was worse. Thyssen’s coal mines used Jewish slaves as if they were disposable chemicals. There are six million skeletons in the Thyssen family closet, and a myriad of criminal and historical questions to be answered about the Bush family’s complicity.”

Prescott Bush was by no means unique, though his financial connections with the Third Reich were perhaps more intimate than most. Henry Ford was an avowed admirer of Hitler, and together GM and Ford played the predominant role in producing the military trucks that carried German troops across Europe. After the war, both auto companies demanded and received reparations for damage to their German plants caused by allied bombing.

Standard Oil and Chase Bank, both controlled by the Rockefellers, invested heavily in Nazi Germany, as did many of Wall Street’s leading brokerage houses. These business dealings continued after the war had begun, with Standard Oil shipping fuel to the Nazis through Switzerland as late as 1942 and collaborating with I.G. Farben, the firm that manufactured Zyklon B gas for the Nazi death chambers and operated a synthetic rubber plant using slave labor from Auschwitz.

In his book Trading with the Enemy: The Nazi American Money Plot, former New York Times reporter Charles Higham noted that the US government sought to cover up the role played by Prescott Bush and many other leading US financiers and industrialists in supporting Hitler.

He wrote that the government feared that any attempt to prosecute these figures would only provoke a “public scandal” and “would have drastically affected public morale, caused widespread strikes and perhaps provoked mutinies in the armed services.” Moreover, Higham wrote, the government believed “their trial and imprisonment would have made it impossible for the corporate boards to help the American war effort.” (Trading with the Enemy—The Nazi American Money Plot 1933-1949, New York, 1983, p. xvii).

The Roosevelt administration and powerful political figures in both parties did their best to smooth over Prescott Bush’s problems arising from his business dealings with the Nazis. He was installed as chairman of the National War Board, helping raise private funds for war-related charities. Shortly after receiving his $1.5 million payout from UBC, he ran successfully for the US Senate from Connecticut, a position he held until 1963.

A considerable section of the leading American capitalists sympathized with Nazism and shared its anti-Semitic outlook, even if not as vocally as Henry Ford. These sentiments continued to inform US policy after the war had begun, with the Roosevelt administration refusing to alter its immigration policies in the slightest to admit Jewish refugees fleeing the Holocaust, and the military rejecting requests that the rail lines to Auschwitz be bombed, on the grounds that they constituted a “non-military target.”

While Bush’s speech writers like to portray US policy in terms of moral absolutes—the struggle of good against evil—the record of complicity of the American ruling class, and the Bush family in particular, with Nazi Germany demonstrates that the only constant is the defense of the power and privilege of the ruling oligarchy by whatever means are required.

In the 1930s and 1940s this overriding consideration led George W. Bush’s grandfather to establish a profitable commercial relationship with the Nazis. In the 1980s, it underlay the alliance forged—in no small part by George W. Bush’s father, the senior President Bush—with the Islamic fundamentalists in the war against the Soviet-backed regime in Afghanistan. Today it is at the heart the younger Bush’s policies of militarism and colonialism abroad and repression and social attacks at home."

wsws.org...

[edit on 16-3-2005 by Lord Altmis]




posted on Mar, 16 2005 @ 12:19 AM
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My question is now, assuming this is true, which it may or may not be, could there be a connection with this previous operation and the Carlyle Group?

From Fortune Magazine:

"Are you the sort of person who believes in conspiracies--the Trilateral Commission secretly runs the world, that sort of thing? Well, then, here's a company for you. The Carlyle Group, a Washington, D.C., buyout firm, is one of the nation's largest defense contractors. It has billions of dollars at its disposal and employs a few important people. Maybe you've heard of them: former Secretary of State Jim Baker, former Secretary of Defense Frank Carlucci, and former White House budget director Dick Darman. Wait, we're just getting warmed up. William Kennard, who recently headed the FCC, and Arthur Levitt, who just left the SEC, also work for Carlyle. As do former British Prime Minister John Major and former Philippines President Fidel Ramos. Let's see, are we forgetting anyone? Oh, right, former President George Herbert Walker Bush is on the payroll too.

The firm also has about a dozen investors from Saudi Arabia, including, until recently, the bin Laden family. Yes, those bin Ladens. Is it any wonder that Internet sites with names like paranoiamagazine.com are rife with stories about Carlyle's shadowy, corrupt global network? And it's not just wackos. "Be careful," a tech entrepreneur in Silicon Valley wrote in an e-mail when he learned I was doing a story on Carlyle. "The rabbit hole runs really deep on this one.''

Leaving aside the conspiracies for a moment, what exactly does the Carlyle Group do? Start with the basics: It's one of the world's largest and most powerful private-equity investment firms, meaning it buys and sells privately held companies and divisions of large public companies for big profits. Founded in 1987 (and named after the favorite New York hotel of the firm's first investors, the Mellon family), Carlyle has raised a total of $14 billion from investors in just the past five years--more than any other private-equity firm has attracted in the same period, except the Blackstone Group and CSFB Private Equity...."

www.fortune.com...

[edit on 16-3-2005 by Lord Altmis]



posted on Mar, 16 2005 @ 12:24 AM
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Great post!!


I just want to mention that he also stole Geronimo's skull for the Skulls and Bones. Wasn't the governator's father also linked to the Nazis?



posted on Mar, 16 2005 @ 01:11 PM
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The Governator....that's funny...never heard that one.

It wouldn't surprise me if the Bush's made money off of the Nazi's.....just as they have been making money with the same organizations as the Bin Ladens. Can any politician be trusted? The Bush's are scumbags...is this news?

Now, Joe Kennedy made money off of Scotch during Prohibition and some people think that is terrible, but I think it was just smart business sense. The Kennedy's still make money off of every bottle of scotch that comes into this country....how's that for residual income!! But this certainly can't be compared to the Bush's disgusting history!!



posted on Mar, 16 2005 @ 01:37 PM
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Good stuff. Well worth bringing up again (and again and again).

Amazes me that everyone focuses on Hitler, like one single nutjob coulda pulled off all those coups all by himself.



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posted on Mar, 16 2005 @ 01:50 PM
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Some other terms you might want to dig around with are Allen Dulles,
I G Farben, and Auschiwtz. Look at the accounts set up by Fritz Thyssen and the Rockefellers in the late 1930's and Early 40's, follow that money, and you'll find out where Bush got his.
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Also check out what the Dutch intelligence found out about Presocott's involvements in those accounts, for the skeptics who will tell you that Prescott only retained one share in the Harriman company, they will forget to mention that Prescott was the MANAGING partner, and they will forget to mention the pharmaceutical industries connections to the Bush family, particularly those of I G Farben, which implicate them in matters far worse than merely selling steel to the Third Reich. The Facist movement here in America was controlled and oeprated by industrialists, major money shakers. Yes I said the Facist movement, and much to demise of our modern democracy, those facists have come into power, the same family names, the same companies, the same industrialists.

[edit on 16-3-2005 by twitchy]



posted on Mar, 16 2005 @ 02:07 PM
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Twitchy...you are a very bright gentleman aren't you!! You possess a lot of knowledge....god stuff!!



posted on Mar, 17 2005 @ 12:54 PM
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Yes, all this stuff is true. The Bushes are a true crime family. And yes, Prescott stole Geronimo's skull and yes, Arnold's dad was a Nazi. Makes one wonder...



posted on Mar, 17 2005 @ 07:44 PM
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How the Bushes have been able to keep this all so quiet is because its always been a matter of public record. The folks looking for the real dirt on the Bushes are digging way to deep when what they are looking for is right on top. You can find records of this stuff in the Library of congress.

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I am and always will be a Reagan Republican. W is a tyrant and is no Republican. It is feasible to call his cabinet the "American Nazi Party". Absolutely sickening. The Bush strategies dont seem to have changed much at all since Prescott Bush. So whos worse? The Bin Ladens are just as bad. Osama another Hitler. Once again there are very real ties between the Bushes and Bin Ladens just as there were between the Bushes and Hitler. They made billions off eachother for a long time. I dont believe the Bushes planned 9/11. They were just as shocked as the rest of us. I do believe that 9/11 was a result of buisness deals gone bad between the two families. The world is truly run by all evil men. We wont catch Osama. Bush doesnt want to. Bin Laden has to have nukes up his sleeve which will be used if hes caught or killed. Its the darkest time in American history right now. Reagan is spinning in his grave.

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Yes all politicians are slime be it here or the other side of the world. The Bushes threaten the existence of humanity. Remember when Bush said Bin Laden has been marginalized? Yea right. Until the next 9/11. While Reagan was dealing with the Soviet Union Bush Sr. was waging private wars and smuggling coke ala Iran/Contra. I can only hope that Reagan saw through the Bushes greed machine and set up some kind of safeguards that will keep them in check. Only the rich matter now. The poor are to be enslaved and the middle class taxed to death to pay for it all. Why is gas so expensive now? There is no reason for it. We are swimming in oil. Theres no shortage at all. Just that this Iraq stuff is very expensive. Now, Im no liberal nutjob. We are just being led by the greediest people in human history who will gain without any thought at all to the bodies in their wake. The damage W is doing to this country will drag us down for a very long time.



posted on Mar, 17 2005 @ 08:03 PM
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A connection between the Bushes and the Nazis is a total exaggeration. Yes he owned some German stock that was seized after the U.S. entered WWII, along with every other American's German stocks. He was compensated for it by the government and was never charged with any crime. The Jewish Antidefamation League looked into these rumors about Bush collaborating with the Nazis and totally debunked them, saying they were made up viscious lies by political enemies.

I can't believe people still post this trash and even more astounded by the number of posts saying how good this is. Ignorance embraced.



posted on Mar, 17 2005 @ 08:41 PM
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Who's ignorance? Exaggeration? Oh no you don't, do your homework before you try debunking information you can dig up on the national archives, DJ. Are you not familiar with the information presented here on this thread? I G Farben, Bush pharmaceutical connections, Allen Dulles? What amazes me is folks who have no clue can get on here and cite the ADL as some kind of reference in debunking matters of well known public history. Care to debate something specific I have mentioned here or are you just going to stomp around the facts with brutish denial and rhetoric?Debate it, or accept it, but the ignorance you mention in regards to this matter, would seem to be subjective indeed.



posted on Mar, 18 2005 @ 12:03 AM
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Ignorance embarced? Exaggerated? Man, I know all this sounds like its some bad movie but its all true. I didnt believe it myself for a while. I tried to back W at first. I was totally for Bush Sr. . Seemed like a heck of a nice guy and he is a WW2 vet. But facts are facts. It did indeed take an act of congress to stop Prescott and Co. from selling war materials to the nazis. Granted it wasnt just Prescott it was half of Wall Street. It makes me sick to think that so many Americans profited off of the Nazis bloodlust. Now another thing Ive read is that Prescott had something to do with Remington Arms and Colt during WW1. That the Bolsheviks were armed by them. Ive done some research and cannot get anything on this at all so its most likely Bush hate speech. the Nazi thing is completely true. Makes me friggin sick. Even when Prescott started his association he most likely did not know what was really going on over there he was just making alot of money. After Pearl Harbor there was no excuse. The war had raged for years and the Nazis had already killed millions when Congress stepped in. Why it took so long is very definetly another issue.

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For some proper info on this look up records for The Trading With the Enemy Act on the Library of Congress web site. Its there and its true. My god. I think Im gonna throw up...



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