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StarT rek: The Covid Generation

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posted on Aug, 29 2020 @ 04:37 AM
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That form of entertainment [television] did not last much beyond the year 2040.

This is a quote from Mr. Data in the Star Trek The Next Generation episode "The Neutral Zone."

They don't watch TV, they don't have Hollywood in Star Trek.

They don't have major sports leagues being broadcast, as hinted at a few times in Deep Space Nine. Ben Sisko often expresses nostalgia for the days of sports leagues, but it's never quite explained why it isn't as prolific in his current time as in the past.

It's never really addressed why the most widespread and accessible forms of entertainment in our current age have fallen out of favor in Star Trek's future, but they definitely make a point that it no longer exists.

(I could also point out toilets falling out of favor as the old joke goes there's no toilets on the Enterprise, but did we really need to see a shot of Kirk or Worf pinching one out to believe they defecate in the future?)

But broadcast entertainment is gone, and I always found that kind of hard to believe as a kid. The most broad and general explanation would be that in their future, they just have more important things to do--the scope of what humanity has become has grown beyond sitcom tropes, who put what ball through what apparatus, and awards shows where award shows win awards!

They instead enriched themselves with taking up a musical instrument, getting involved in stage drama, social gatherings around...you know..the thing! or they otherwise immersed themselves in various studies. A trip to the holodeck allowed them to interact and integrate with their sports and TV, or other forms of entertainment. Perhaps that is where TV and sports went? To the holodeck.

I haven't watched a Television Network in over 15 years, but I'd holodeck in a heartbeat!

What I have learned from the year 2020 during covid lockdowns and peaceful riots is that nobody seems to be missing sports or cinemas all that much. I could be wrong.

I don't see too many people shaken up about the absence of sports. I could also argue that you have to be a special kind of airhead to be enamored with Hollywood, but that's a different topic.

Where I once found it hard to believe there would be no sports or broadcast TV in the future, I honestly wouldn't be sad to see it die out.

Twit-Talk and Wokebook are still going strong though so maybe we're not quite headed to that enlightened future just yet.


Do you miss sports? Do you yearn for Hollywood? Do you think we'd be better off without it altogether?

Are you finding other things more important to focus on during these weird-ass times?




edit on 29-8-2020 by NarcolepticBuddha because: (no reason given)




posted on Aug, 29 2020 @ 05:04 AM
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a reply to: NarcolepticBuddha




Do you miss sports? Do you yearn for Hollywood? Do you think we'd be better off without it altogether?

I think we are better off without them , TV and Hollywood are behind many of the societal problems we see today in my opinion and most sport is just tribalism for the modern day , jousting and public executions were once the opiate of the masses but we evolved from them so it makes sense we would evolve from of the addiction of today.

Like you I would relish the opportunity for a play on the Holodeck but draw the line at Synthehol .... Never !



posted on Aug, 29 2020 @ 05:09 AM
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originally posted by: gortex
draw the line at Synthehol .... Never !


There are some things you gotta keep real.




posted on Aug, 29 2020 @ 05:14 AM
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Do not miss any of them, However I would like to see them take all that money sports players made and give it to Doctors and Nurses now.



posted on Aug, 29 2020 @ 06:29 AM
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a reply to: NarcolepticBuddha

Sport is one way for people to keep fit.

It's here to stay.



posted on Aug, 29 2020 @ 06:55 AM
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originally posted by: alldaylong
a reply to: NarcolepticBuddha

Sport is one way for people to keep fit.

It's here to stay.

Playing it perhaps but.....

Why aye man !




posted on Aug, 29 2020 @ 06:57 AM
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a reply to: gortex

I was waiting for somebody else to go there. Well done!



posted on Aug, 29 2020 @ 07:27 AM
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I have always considered sports to be a way for members of a society to encourage warrior traits and to identify those with the best physical characteristics for winning battles. IMO, sports are an off shoot of military training, working as a team to overcome the enemy. The Olympics, derived from Greek/Roman games and gladiator fights, are a way to show off your best warriors abilities to wield weapons and fight opponents from other countries.

We have seen Star Trek characters training on the holo-deck, but no real life physical contact sports that I can remember. They did have the occasional fight, but nothing like the brawls on the original series.

Obviously "Star Trek, The Next Generation" was social or "predictive programing" from the liberal left. "Demolition Man" had some good humorous jabs at a future Star Trek type distopian society.
edit on 29-8-2020 by MichiganSwampBuck because: For Clarity



posted on Aug, 29 2020 @ 08:02 AM
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a reply to: gortex

100% agree here.

It has poisoned our culture to the point of desensitization against violence. They've inculcated nihilism and callousness as a modus vivendis, and went from feeding us dangerous escapism to feeding us dangerous propaganda.

I like the idea of a holodeck but I would ruin my life in it, lol.



posted on Aug, 29 2020 @ 09:18 AM
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I have to say that professional sports is about to politicize itself out of existence.

The kneeling alienated much of the audience and they lost a lot of the audience when they openly disrespected the Flag and the National Anthem. No matter how you feel about the kneeling, you must admit that ratings and the numbers attending games plunged.

Now the players of the NBA are talking about boycotting and cancelling games for racial justice, the NFL is considering the same thing.

What will happen if this continues? The owners of the teams will go bankrupt. The teams will fold. The players will lose their multi-million dollar jobs. The leagues will be forced to shut down due to bankruptcy.

If professional sports die at their own hands, NBA, NFL, well it is no great loss really, except to the players who got themselves fired and lost multi-millions of dollars.

Our household can still watch college ball until those players decide to boycott for racial justice or whatever justice, and then the nation will lose interest after it is off the air for awhile.

The NBA and NFL are actually killing themselves and the 90% of black players who are making multiple millions.

Really no great loss to the nation. Now we know what happened in Star Trek, professional sports boycotted itself into bankruptcy and out of existence.

No one watches sports to get a political lecture, it is watched for entertainment, once it ceases to be entertainment and becomes a angry lecture about how awful the viewers are, it ceases to be watched.



posted on Aug, 29 2020 @ 09:34 AM
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a reply to: MichiganSwampBuck




The Next Generation" was social or "predictive programing" from the liberal left. "Demolition Man" had some good humorous jabs at a future Star Trek type distopian society.

I'm re-watching TNG on cable and have to agree , the best episodes seem to be the two part season finale's the rest is mostly social workers in space ..... guess they blew the seasons budget on the finale's.



posted on Aug, 29 2020 @ 09:38 AM
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a reply to: gortex

You are right, traditional Hollywood and TV are fueling the anger, fueling the hate, fueling the rage that Americans have for one another. They are doing nothing positive or uplifting or uniting, just encouraging hate, division, and violence.

Interestingly, my grandchildren don't care very much for TV at all.

My granddaughter watches lots of "how to" youtube videos and loves to try and do the crafts, cooking, baking. She also watches the innocent fun pranks. If given the choice of what to watch she rarely chooses traditional TV or TV shows.

My grandson also is not interested in traditional TV. His choice of activities is building complicated things with legos or kits - and video games - and playing the piano. When given the choice of what to watch he goes for the old TV shows, prior to the days when there was an obligatory gay scene, or partially nude sex scene in nearly every show. The politically correct TV shows of today that try to push political correctness in your face, even in comedy he is not interested in (no one stops him from watching them, he just isn't interested).

If a person is into watching sex scenes, there is porn in which no real plot matters. We don't need to watch TV or Movies to get sex scenes which are so common they have lost their appeal because they are so generic and predictable they have become dull and routine.

Actually my husband and I turn off any TV show or streamed movie once it decides to go the politically correct posturing route or devolves into using nudity and sex in place of dialog and plot. There is so much nudity and sex on TV now in prime time that it has become BORING, kiss, kiss the breast, kiss the tummy, hump - predictable and boring and does nothing to move the story or plot along. Sex and not so subtle political posturing have become the lazy writers of TV shows way of not having good dialog or a great plot. We just turn it off. We've taken to turning off all TV at 8PM and reading books until time to go to bed.

This is what happened in Star Trek days to TV and Hollywood. They were so intent on political posturing and political correctness and substituting sex scenes (which became so ubiquitous they became boring) for a good story or good writing or a good plot - that people just stopped watching.



posted on Aug, 29 2020 @ 09:45 AM
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a reply to: NarcolepticBuddha

While it was never fully explained I always took it to mean TV as we know it evolved into something different. Clearly Hollywood so-to-speak didn't cease to exist. They have the holodeck, holonovel authors, and most holodeck characters seem to be modeled after real people.

Clearly the want or desire for what the TV offers isn't gone. Trip started weekly movie night aboard the enterprise and Belanna Torres replicated a TV for Tom Paris on Voyager.

They still have major sports in the Star Trek era. The sports just changed. Captain Archer regretted to it numerous times. I believe it was something akin to water polo, but it was different.



posted on Aug, 29 2020 @ 09:48 AM
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a reply to: NarcolepticBuddha

I like the paradox. Explaining why media entertainment is not needed anymore in a futuristic setting as shown by star trek which is media entertainment.



posted on Aug, 29 2020 @ 10:47 AM
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Parrises squares is played professionally.

Fencing and Anbo-jyutsu exist as competitive sport as well, not sure if professionally played but surely a collegiate or perhaps Olympic level of gaming exists. There was the odd Racquetball game so handball probably exits too. Wasn’t the doctor on DS9 a tennis player?



posted on Aug, 29 2020 @ 10:50 AM
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originally posted by: Ahabstar
Parrises squares is played professionally.

Fencing and Anbo-jyutsu exist as competitive sport as well, not sure if professionally played but surely a collegiate or perhaps Olympic level of gaming exists. There was the odd Racquetball game so handball probably exits too. Wasn’t the doctor on DS9 a tennis player?


They were all played, yes.

They certainly weren't broadcast as prolifically as in our time.

There weren't any paid-to-play athletes. Anybody who partook in sports did it on the side as a hobby, even if competitively.



posted on Aug, 29 2020 @ 12:25 PM
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a reply to: NarcolepticBuddha

There was no money in the Federation, at least not on Earth. No one was paid for anything. Which also makes Picard’s wine rather worthless and nor true socialism used belong to the people of Earth and not the family name but that is a whole other argument.

But maybe sports died when out of shape, clumsy, Monday morning quarterbacks decided they should play too. From there sports just sucked so bad all the athletes quit and moved on to new colonies...



posted on Aug, 29 2020 @ 12:34 PM
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originally posted by: The2Billies
Actually my husband and I turn off any TV show or streamed movie once it decides to go the politically correct posturing route or devolves into using nudity and sex in place of dialog and plot. There is so much nudity and sex on TV now in prime time that it has become BORING, kiss, kiss the breast, kiss the tummy, hump - predictable and boring and does nothing to move the story or plot along. Sex and not so subtle political posturing have become the lazy writers of TV shows way of not having good dialog or a great plot.

I was beginning to think I was the only one that felt put off by the over-use of sex as a device in TV shows and movies. When everyone was gushing over GoT, I was not a fan of the constant rape, incest and total focus on sex in every episode. I stopped watching completely.

I really was enjoying a Netflix show called Mindhunter about the first attempts at FBI criminal profiling. But every episode without fail: fairly explicit sex scene between the main character and his girlfriend. Which had zero to do with anything. It seemed more a blatant attempt to gain ratings. Again, I stopped watching. Lately it seems that just about every show you watch is becoming the same.



posted on Aug, 29 2020 @ 08:40 PM
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I guess I’m the odd one out here. So what else is new? Anyhow, I am a huge NFL and MLB fan. I also love the Olympics. I was so glad when baseball came back. I even did a thread on it, but people got nasty and trolled and turned my thread into a political #storm. So I sense that most of you consider sports beneath you. How very sad.

Sports is fun and entertaining to watch. It’s inspirational. I’ve had many tearful moments over watching sports throughout the years. But I wouldn’t expect most of you to understand this. You think sports is beneath you and sneer at anyone who is a sports fan. That’s okay. I own how I feel about things, and am not afraid to state so much.



posted on Aug, 30 2020 @ 12:35 AM
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a reply to: ChiefD

Naw you're not totally alone on this. I am a huge NHL fan. I watched almost every LA Kings game since about 2008 until the last 2 seasons. (Work got in the way and then the covid shutdown.)

I grew up in a baseball family, playing it and watching it.

As I said though, more important life things tended to come up (I've moved like 4 times in the last year alone/ work related.)

Under the right conditions I'd probably get back into it.

Hollywood can stuff it though. I am tired of remakes. I haven't been excited about new movies in over a decade.



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