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Black Americans Want Police to Retain Local Presence

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posted on Aug, 26 2020 @ 08:35 PM
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Put this in the mud pit because these topics usually get pretty heated.

So it turns out, contrary to what the news, BLM, all the people currently burning America, anyone screaming about police defunding seem to believe, but as anyone with any kind of common sense could have said turns out...

The average black american, like every other colour person, does not support defunding the police, and in fact would like a police presence to be maintained in their neighbourhoods, who woulda guessed that the average person does in fact enjoy living in a society with law and order?

news.gallup.com...


When asked whether they want the police to spend more time, the same amount of time or less time than they currently do in their area, most Black Americans -- 61% -- want the police presence to remain the same. This is similar to the 67% of all U.S. adults preferring the status quo, including 71% of White Americans.

Meanwhile, nearly equal proportions of Black Americans say they would like the police to spend more time in their area (20%) as say they'd like them to spend less time there (19%).






These findings are from a June 23-July 6 Gallup Panel survey, administered by web in English and conducted as part of the newly launched Gallup Center on Black Voices. The study includes large samples of Black, Hispanic and Asian Americans, weighted to their correct proportions of the population.

Of these four racial/ethnic groups, Asian Americans are the most likely to want less police presence where they live, with 28% saying this. That contrasts with 12% of White Americans, 17% of Hispanic Americans and 19% of Black Americans.






The slightly elevated frequency with which Black Americans see police in their neighborhood has limited impact on their preferences for changing the local police presence. About a third of Black Americans who say they often see the police in their neighborhood think the police should spend less time there (34%); however, the majority of adults in this group think they should spend the same amount of time (56%) or more time (10%).


Now, i don't know about all you folks here, but that sure does sound a whole lot different than what everyone's been screaming and burning cities about to me.

Could it be, that nobody ever actually asked the average person whether they want to live in a lawless society before the news started pushing everyone to burn the #ing world down?




posted on Aug, 26 2020 @ 08:51 PM
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Dont expect many replys I pointed this out more times then I can count the right wingers here insist the left all want to be raped robbed and murdered .
While at the same time atking there guns . As if a unarmed person would eb taking there guns lol.
The left is nuts no dout the right is even crazier .

99 % of people just want to live with out all that drama . Really the Portland so called protest just how many people out of the million there are acutely causing disturction ? A few Hundred at Most .

A few hundred people are bringing this country to its nees while the Right sings for more violence .

Both sides have nothing to do with anything but violence Both sides ARE THE same side .yes civilization will fall sooner or later because of just a few men and now woman .

I dout most Romans were happy when Rome fell and barbarians took over .
edit on 26-8-2020 by midnightstar because: (no reason given)



posted on Aug, 26 2020 @ 08:55 PM
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Note if you read all the post you will notice its the same 10 or 15 people calling for all the violence or taking one thing and making it a half the country is evil post .
There are Million of people who come to ATS and only a hand full who enjoy talking about how things should just burn really we could make a list of them and not take one line writing it .



posted on Aug, 26 2020 @ 08:55 PM
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a reply to: dug88

Then perhaps the average black person in America should start pushing back.

First off, denounce the BLM movement and all the mid-20's white college kids that are trying to prove how "woke" they are by burning down black-owned businesses and churches and killing people.

Secondly, by roundly denouncing the multi-million dollar black people in the sports industry that claim to "speak" for them.

And third and finally, shrug off the Democratic party, the media pushing a DNC agenda and vote for Trump this election cycle.

Let's face it... he has done more for the black community then the first black President ever did for them.




posted on Aug, 26 2020 @ 08:56 PM
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Dont expect many replys I pointed this out more times then I can count the right wingers here insist the left all want to be raped robbed and murdered

You have that bass - ackwards,
That is what the left WANTS to do to others.
Cause , no law enforcement to slap their sorry ___ in jail .
Add all other potential crimes to that list as well.

End Rant.
(Damn , that was emotional and so not like me.)

edit on 8/26/20 by Gothmog because: (no reason given)



posted on Aug, 26 2020 @ 08:59 PM
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This sounds about right. About fifteen percent of adults in this country average would rather not have the police around...many of those benefit by there not being police around. Some being criminals and some being people who like to take advantage of others. People who do not want to be penalized by breaking the law.

What would happen if there were no police? There would be lots more speeding and accidents because of that. Nobody would get a ticket for talking on the phone which resulted in an accident which was there fault, they would just deny they were on the phone, the cops won't be there to check on them and nobody would have the right to access someone's phone account to put the blame on the right person for the cause of the accident.

It is not just criminals that would gain, a real lot more people would be getting bad, there would be no penalty for being wreckless. There would be lots more addicts too, nobody would be enforcing the laws to keep people on the up and up. This will lead to way more deaths and lots more turmoil in our society, not to mention way more in medical costs and psychiatric costs in insurances.

This crazy stupid idea that society can exist without law enforcement is a pipe dream. We are responsible for our actions, that is the way it has to be. Who is going to lock up sex offenders and pedophiles so they do not go after our kids. Laws and prison sentences deter people from doing this kind of stuff. Who will investigate and arrest people? I suppose the crazy far left think these people will just stop when in fact, why would a girl bother saying she was raped if nobody was going to punish the rapist?

We have a bunch of looneys trying to take over our country, there needs to be laws and leos.



posted on Aug, 26 2020 @ 09:01 PM
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originally posted by: midnightstar
Dont expect many replys I pointed this out more times then I can count the right wingers here insist the left all want to be raped robbed and murdered .
While at the same time atking there guns . As if a unarmed person would eb taking there guns lol.
The left is nuts no dout the right is even crazier .

99 % of people just want to live with out all that drama . Really the Portland so called protest just how many people out of the million there are acutely causing disturction ? A few Hundred at Most .

A few hundred people are bringing this country to its nees while the Right sings for more violence .

Both sides have nothing to do with anything but violence Both sides ARE THE same side .yes civilization will fall sooner or later because of just a few men and now woman .

I dout most Romans were happy when Rome fell and barbarians took over .


Quoted for hilarity.

Look at your own post.

You are not functionally literate in the English language, yet want to post an opinion about something you clearly know nothing about.

You vilify the right as a destructive element in our society while downplaying the actual people that are burning, looting, killing...

You exemplify the typical Democratic voter.

Which is why, for the sake of a safe and sane America, your ideology needs to lose.




posted on Aug, 26 2020 @ 09:02 PM
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a reply to: midnightstar

The violence and division are what the people pushing all this on both sides want. A divided population is easier to control than a united one. You think America's government would be in this state if the country were united towards making America what it's supposed to be, a place where everyone, regardless of where you're from, who you are, what you believe, etc. Can have the opportunity to work, be free and just live life.

Both sides are full of people bought and sold by corporate interests that do not fall in line with the average person. The entire system is corrupt from the top down and every government keeps trying to aggregate power at the top.

The more divided everyone is, the easier it is for them to keep sucking more and more power from average people.



posted on Aug, 26 2020 @ 09:03 PM
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originally posted by: Gothmog
a reply to: midnightstar




Dont expect many replys I pointed this out more times then I can count the right wingers here insist the left all want to be raped robbed and murdered

You have that bass - ackwards,
That is what the left WANTS to do to others.
Cause , no law enforcement to slap their sorry ___ in jail .
Add all other potential crimes to that list as well.

End Rant.
(Damn , that was emotional and so not like me.)


Phhtt...

You spoke a Truth.

Which is hard to do in these times...




posted on Aug, 26 2020 @ 09:04 PM
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a reply to: dug88

Thanks for sharing this. Unfortunately, people are gobbling up the narrative that implies half the country wants to burn down our cities. Half of the politicians might, but certainly not half the people - doubtful even 1% of the people.



posted on Aug, 26 2020 @ 09:08 PM
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originally posted by: dug88
a reply to: midnightstar

The violence and division are what the people pushing all this on both sides want. A divided population is easier to control than a united one. You think America's government would be in this state if the country were united towards making America what it's supposed to be, a place where everyone, regardless of where you're from, who you are, what you believe, etc. Can have the opportunity to work, be free and just live life.

Both sides are full of people bought and sold by corporate interests that do not fall in line with the average person. The entire system is corrupt from the top down and every government keeps trying to aggregate power at the top.

The more divided everyone is, the easier it is for them to keep sucking more and more power from average people.


I felt that way once about our government.

But I was 13.

Are you honestly going to attempt to sell the idea that there is no political difference between Biden and Trump?

That after the show is over they all have beers and laugh at the citizenry?

That HAS been the case in most of our political history the last 60 years or so.

The ones that have stood out are JFK, Reagan and Trump.

Assassinated, attempted assassination, and here we are.

So I entirely disagree with your premise.

Because I understand what Progressives are, on both sides of the aisle.




posted on Aug, 26 2020 @ 09:11 PM
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How about we retrain media personalities instead of throwing obscure images of what's really going on?



posted on Aug, 26 2020 @ 09:14 PM
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a reply to: dug88

Yep most normal people want to have law and order in their neighbourhoods.

Only the extremists among us believe otherwise.



posted on Aug, 26 2020 @ 09:15 PM
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The violence and division are what the people pushing all this on both sides want.

Cite that.
All I see are young , white kids doing the violence and rioting . (Progressive Liberal Socialist/Communist Democrats)
What happened to the "Black" in "Black Lives Matter" ?
Seems to me that would be the most important part.



posted on Aug, 26 2020 @ 09:20 PM
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a reply to: dug88
Every poll is very consistent in this regard.

Joe Biden wants to "redirect" funding from Police.

How is that different from "defunding"? Sounds like the same end result to me.



posted on Aug, 26 2020 @ 09:37 PM
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Mud pit itself, is now compromised by bad actors!
edit on 26-8-2020 by smurfy because: Text.



posted on Aug, 26 2020 @ 09:45 PM
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a reply to: Lumenari

I didn't say anything about Biden or Trump, or either political side, I said division was the goal of the people trying to destroy America and free society whoever they may be. People can be divided over lots of things l, politics are just one thing. Media stories in general, even over innocuous things try to divide people. Whether it's a few people, a bunch of people or a whole country of people.

If the goal of someone or something is to divide people, they are the enemy of the average person.

To be honest, Trump might do a bunch of questionable things, say some #ed or outright dumb things, but i've never heard him say anything outright divisive. He's dismissive, rude, a bunch of things, but doesn't seem to actively stoke division among people.

Most of the division seems to come from opinions on things he's said pushed as fact or turned into memes by one media outlet or another.

Though, he could learn not to spout dumb # on twitter that gives them endless things to keep this # going.
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posted on Aug, 26 2020 @ 10:06 PM
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originally posted by: dug88
a reply to: Lumenari

I didn't say anything about Biden or Trump, or either political side, I said division was the goal of the people trying to destroy America and free society whoever they may be. People can be divided over lots of things l, politics are just one thing. Media stories in general, even over innocuous things try to divide people. Whether it's a few people, a bunch of people or a whole country of people.

If the goal of someone or something is to divide people, they are the enemy of the average person.

To be honest, Trump might do a bunch of questionable things, say some #ed or outright dumb things, but i've never heard him say anything outright divisive. He's dismissive, rude, a bunch of things, but doesn't seem to actively stoke division among people.

Most of the division seems to come from opinions on things he's said pushed as fact or turned into memes by one media outlet or another.

Though, he could learn not to spout dumb # on twitter that gives them endless things to keep this # going.


So he's literally Twittler.

Why does the other side not take any accountability for their actions?

Why does the voting base of the DNC look around at what is going on and have a WTF moment?

Or maybe they are.

As an Obama voter, I know I certainly am.

Face it... for better or worse, what Trump is doing is ABSOLUTELY cementing in stone the difference between a Nationalist and a Democrat.

These are not the actions of a "two wings of the same party" Progressive movement.

This is an issue that needs to be solved NOW.

He is doing that.

Against all odds.

For that, I applaud him, although I cannot stand him personally.

He is the right person for the job at the right time for America.

For whatever that is worth.




posted on Aug, 26 2020 @ 11:45 PM
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What do the huite liberals have to say about it?

I mean they seem to be the ones telling us all what the black people REALLY want!



posted on Aug, 26 2020 @ 11:48 PM
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originally posted by: seeker1963
a reply to: dug88

What do the huite liberals have to say about it?

I mean they seem to be the ones telling us all what the black people REALLY want!



You mean that's what the media tell you what they think they want.



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