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New Police Audio Released From Kenosha Challenges Original Story

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posted on Aug, 26 2020 @ 09:29 PM
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Here it is...




Police used a Taser and grappled with Jacob Blake before shooting him, witnesses say


www.msn.com...




posted on Aug, 26 2020 @ 09:31 PM
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originally posted by: IAMTAT
Here it is...




Police used a Taser and grappled with Jacob Blake before shooting him, witnesses say


www.msn.com...

Ok then..there it is.



posted on Aug, 26 2020 @ 09:32 PM
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a reply to: NarcolepticBuddha

Twenty years ago, my "group" would have 50% of the Kenosha police department paying a price by now. But that was when I was a Democrat.



posted on Aug, 26 2020 @ 09:35 PM
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squads of asshats are looting downtown Minneapolis tonight. Why? There was a black man in downtown who was wanted for murdering another man shortly prior. minnesota.cbslocal.com... MPD tried to take the man into custody and the guy shot himself in the head... which was caught on camera. So a crowd of excitable asshats decided tonight to rage against the cops (who are only tied to this case because they were doing their jobs and the murderer decided to take a coward's way out) and are right now lotting the piss out of their own city. Any excuse to behave like animals, ya?

That's the dynamic the USA is dealing with right now. It's beginning to resemble any other country's terrorists... one thing about terrorists, they don't respond to diplomacy and niceties. Oh, they adore it when middle aged housewives weep for them and beg the powers hunting the filth to show mercy, but they will spin around and rape the hell out of those middle aged housewives given a shadow of a chance, rob them blind, execute them in the cold of night while feeding off their pain and suffering. Same goddamn dynamic manifesting itself within the US of A and I'll be goddamned if we don't have an evergrowing assemblage of asshats, imbeciles, and bleeding heart pains in the ass facilitating a playground for those terrorist animals to play in while exhibiting outrage at any logical attempt to apply natural consequences to those who behave like untamed beasts in a supposedly civilized world.



posted on Aug, 26 2020 @ 09:41 PM
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originally posted by: IAMTAT
Here it is...




Police used a Taser and grappled with Jacob Blake before shooting him, witnesses say


www.msn.com...


Unfortunately, as I said in OP, facts don't matter anymore. People have their lines in the sand drawn. The damage is done, and it will always be done first. Facts can only get in the way of the narrative. Riot and burn first, ignore the facts, wait for the next incident to happen, repeat.

Why aren't the governors decrying these rioting and burning retaliations? Oh right, because we're supposed to believe these are peaceful protests over innocent lives needlessly being taken (DO. NOT. REACH. WHERE. POLICE. CANNOT. SEE!)

Where is Biden, the king of racial harmony, and Kamala Harris, proud supporter of BLM asking for patience and sanity, instead of wanton destruction?

The media is frothing, waiting for their next bite






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posted on Aug, 26 2020 @ 09:42 PM
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a reply to: burdman30ott6

It’s not resembling terrorists, it’s looking more like the aftermath of psychological manipulation by information.

Save the which side is what.

Misinfo compounded with trigger happy cops = this.



posted on Aug, 26 2020 @ 09:46 PM
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a reply to: odzeandennz

Nah, it's terrorists. This nonsense literally seems to be a combination of forcing what they want via physical brutality and frightening.threatening anyone who tries to counter it.



posted on Aug, 26 2020 @ 09:52 PM
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My only gripe about this situation is the police shot this crook 7 times and didn't kill em. It outlines the problem the police are poorly trained and lack the know how to do their jobs in resolving conflict through tact and the lack the ability to shoot straight. These officers will now be sued by this crook and likely owe him money for the rest of their lives because they didn't take him out properly or resolve the issue without deadly force.

A lawyer is educated for years and passes an exam to argue Law in the court and officers are educated meer months before being allowed to enforce laws in a far more volatile circumstance. It has never made sense to me that officers are not better educated and paid.



posted on Aug, 27 2020 @ 12:57 AM
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a reply to: strongfp


From what I have seen there is very specific language when it involves ages from 18 to 12. If his charges involved anyone under the age of 18 he would have been charged accordingly i suppose. But he is not. Maybe his case will turn into a age specific charge?

Not necessarily. In Alabama, it's the same charge and is specified that way.

Alabama Code 13A § 13A-6-61

(a) A person commits the crime of rape in the first degree if:
    (1) He or she engages in sexual intercourse with a member of the opposite sex by forcible compulsion;  or

    (2) He or she engages in sexual intercourse with a member of the opposite sex who is incapable of consent by reason of being physically helpless or mentally incapacitated;  or

    (3) He or she, being 16 years or older, engages in sexual intercourse with a member of the opposite sex who is less than 12 years old.
(b) Rape in the first degree is a Class A felony.


Alabama Code 13A § 13A-6-62

(a) A person commits the crime of rape in the second degree if:
    (1) Being 16 years old or older, he or she engages in sexual intercourse with a member of the opposite sex less than 16 and more than 12 years old;  provided, however, the actor is at least two years older than the member of the opposite sex.

    (2) He or she engages in sexual intercourse with a member of the opposite sex who is incapable of consent by reason of being mentally defective.
(b) Rape in the second degree is a Class B felony.

It all depends on the state and how the laws are structured. That's why I was asking. I am not familiar with WI legal statutes.

TheRedneck



posted on Aug, 27 2020 @ 12:59 AM
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Look the news (Twin Cities) said that he was trying to take the 3 children in the back of the car (his kids?) he had a felony warrent for domestic abuse, he was armed and resisting arrest, the police can use deadly force to protect the safety of the kids and the public gathered around, HELL, it's their duty to protect us all from this! But the mob doesn't care about details, they see a black man being shot in the back and can't wait for the investigation to even start before taking to the street to burn and loot, and assult! big damn free for all, and the misguided Mayors and councels let them run amok FFS

and if some snot nose damn dumb brainwashed asshole kids were berating me at an outdoor restaurant, I'd have smacked him/her so hard with an open palm they would have to visit the Dentist, the brats need a damn good spanking, and their parents also for not teaching them manors and civility, tar and feather the social justice warrior teachers and professors who teach this civil unrest and violence, there are proper ways to protest, we need to expose the group behind all this crap dividing our great Country
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posted on Aug, 27 2020 @ 01:13 AM
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a reply to: IAMTAT

That's another aspect. Tasers do not affect everyone equally. They can kill in some circumstances; in others they can be shrugged off. It depends on several factors: heart condition, internal electrical resistance, electrolyte levels, and drug use to name a few. Because of their exposure to such, most police will assume shrugging off a taser to be a sign of potential drug use. That makes a person that much more dangerous, and explains the number of shots. If someone can simply shrug off a taser, chances are they can shrug off the first few rounds of a 9mm (which is what I assume the police were using).

A 9mm is ballistically almost identical to a .38 Special round. I know of one guy, big old fellow, around here who was working on a man's house doing some repairs. A car pulled up in front and a little skinny guy got out; unbenownst to the first guy, it was the husband of the girl he had been having an affair with. The little guy unloaded six .38 special rounds into him while he ran for cover. The police found him whimpering behind the washing machine on the enclosed back porch after he ripped the door off the hinges to get away.

Incidentally, that is one good reason I carry .357 or larger.

You fire until the target is down, especially if the target is not responding to the use of force.

TheRedneck



posted on Aug, 27 2020 @ 01:20 AM
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Our hero.



posted on Aug, 27 2020 @ 02:40 AM
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a reply to: ChiefD
Tell you something. Had he had that pistol under his car seat, even after being shot twice, he has the potential to rapidly twist back in a matter of one second to get his dying shots off had the responding officer just ceased. In that situation, with this environment of fools and false leaders all but advocating violence against civil institutions of the law. id rather him deal with it in court than be getting buried by his family.

Lesson number one, we do not condone stupidity, irrational personal choices or ignore lawful orders. Ignoring an officer and proceeding to an unchecked vehicle that can easily house quick access lethal weapons is a stupid irrational personal choice that can and will and should lead to pre-emptive force. Whats that excuse people use to rationalize their voluntarily suspended digital 4th amendment?? Nothing to hide? Polite compliance and folks'll be on with their day.

It only takes less than a second to die. Since this was either a miracle to survive or a staged propoganda event using blanks and paid actors/military it is good noone is dead.



posted on Aug, 27 2020 @ 07:36 AM
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originally posted by: burdman30ott6

originally posted by: JAGStorm
a reply to: NarcolepticBuddha




Did you consider that one of the ways this could have been handled was Jacob Blake listening to and complying with police instructions?

Funny how this option is never suggested.

Nope, just let them brandish a weapon and reach into a concealed area.


Should he have listened, absolutely.
Did he deserve 7 shots in the BACK ??? NO WAY!
You are telling me all those cops couldn't have taken him down?
They couldn't' de-escalate?




They did de-escalate. Being laid on your ass unable to move your limbs is pretty much as de-esclated as it gets shy of a dirt nap. This was no loss, great or otherwise... seems to be a trend in most of these cases, though.



Because in America’s world, this is how police handles these situations.

Imagine if this was how the military operated abroad...



posted on Aug, 27 2020 @ 08:04 AM
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Not defending the dead perp, because he might as well have committed suicide by cop with the stupid ass actions he took -- but I will say the cops could have handled him a bit better. He wasn't a big dude, just tackle his ass to the floor and cuff him. It was messy -- but at the end of the day it was justified.



posted on Aug, 27 2020 @ 08:14 AM
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a reply to: NarcolepticBuddha

I agree. I think the issue is people on the left think that if their is a social revolution, that magically, all this stuff is going to go away. Let me be clear. The media gains money by generating revenue that is tied to ratings. Therefore they must, as a corporate entity beholder to their shareholders do what is necessary to generate ratings. The easiest way to do this is feed the people what they want to see. Left wing media feeds the left with a constant barrage injustice, which causes them excite the people to get them to tune in. The right is just as guilty spinning things toward the right to get them to react. As a result of this you are seeing a polarization of the USA. All the people that were in the center are being forced to choose sides, Left for supporting equality and social justice, or right to support protectionism, law & order, military.

What does this causes is an unaccounting of those in the middle. Lets say you you support the military, police, law & order, but you do think there is a need for reform, but you don't believe there should be riots. In this cause you lean right. All of a sudden you are labeled a fascist, a nazi, a POS.

Lets say you believe in the protests, want police reform, want government reform, want a better social network, but you do think rioters should be arrested, and those destroying property should be arrested. You lean left. All of a sudden, you are a communist, a socialist, a terrorist.

In both cases, the people were in the middle, however because the voices of the far left and right are the only ones heard, you are forced to align and tie in to one of those groups revolving around one of those parties, which forces you to vote Dem or Repub. This eliminates the ability for a 3rd choice to be heard, accepted, or even valued.

Look most people are not crazy and are going to destroy and loot. That said those people are helpless to stop those that are within their group, because either they themselves will be hurt, or because their views force them to align with the choas.

Most people are not crazy on the right and want to shoot protestors, kill black people, make them slaves, etc. However when you have an armed man confronted with a mob. What is he supposed to do, not use his gun? Leave it at home? Whats the sense in having a gun for protection, when you are being threatened?

The issues is we are rapidly being confronted with 2 choices, Trumps America, or Bidens America. What we need is an American America. Both choices suck. The only way to solve this is eliminate the profits derived from revenue by inciting this hate. I miss the days when news was news. you watched it maybe 4 hours (Morning, Noon, Evening, Late Night). There was no consultants or people espousing their views. There was just the news. Today we have very little news, and alot of people spitting out their views in a manner to drive revenue. In short, they are actors, not newsmen.

I just hope things settle down. Because if it doesn't America will fundamentally change one way or the other. Either way isn't good. We never do things middle of the road, so if the far left wins, things will be bad. If the far right wins, things will be bad. We need people to step back and calm down.

Camain



posted on Aug, 27 2020 @ 08:59 AM
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originally posted by: Bluntone22
a reply to: ChiefD

You’re right...

Should have shot him eight times

Here's what I don't get: How come the perp isn't dead after being shot 7 times?
I know the police are trained to shoot central mass and that their standard is to stop/contain - not kill - violent offenders. Haven't heard how many of the seven shots actually struck the perp.
But really! What are they using - low recoil target hardball in 9mm?



posted on Aug, 27 2020 @ 10:00 AM
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originally posted by: IAMTAT
a reply to: NarcolepticBuddha

Wasn't there a warrant out on him for raping a 15 yr old?
Can someone verify?


How DARE you bring facts into the discussion!

Now go sit in the corner and read Lenin's communist manifesto until your eyes bleed...



posted on Aug, 27 2020 @ 10:09 AM
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originally posted by: ChiefD
I don’t give a # what the guy did. It did NOT justify the police shooting him seven freakin’ times! Seven times! The guy will likely be paralyzed for the rest of his life. Police seem to love to use excessive force on people of color. Disgusting. And all the right wing in their pathetic bubble will beat the horse to death.


The Satanic takeover is complete in you. You were cooked so slow you didn’t even notice, did you?



posted on Aug, 27 2020 @ 10:29 AM
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originally posted by: Bluntone22
a reply to: ChiefD

You’re right...

Should have shot him eight times

hahahahaha.... what if his clip held 12???







 
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